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Taking Ice for the first time; advice and tips

well goin from first time

1- around 18 hours , 8 of peak ,iif ur lucky n its pure bangaa shit, the rest , i duno , half comedown half euphoric/sketchy/would root anythn with a pulse, if in good environment that is, imo

2- 50-80mg

3- dont do it

but i know u will so i thought id stil give u my advice

im stil rockin from a point yestday mornin
(wich im pissed off at myself bout coz im tryin stay drug free-ish), n random puffs shouted here n there by these girls ( couch rent ) who are here for w end

mondays gonna be a shocker, but yay for scattered sundays , already got the beer weed n xanax for that
 
1) How long are effects expected to last if smoked?
Onsets usually felt within few minutes and will last for 15-20 hours from a few tokes. Smokin is completely different to racking, IV-ing or orally dosing.

2) What is a good starting dose for smoking? I'd like to be high and sociable not completely fucked (that can come later) as I will have to talk to plenty of people.
I find that if its absolutely pure 20mg for a non tolerant user will be enough not to get u over wired but put u in a good place.

3) any other good advice.
Mite want to keep sum benzos handy for the comedown as it isnt pleasant. I personally tend to try to stay away from stims in general as i dont like the way it makes me feel the following days. I absolutely hate feeling jittery. Make sure u drink alot of water while u are on it and especially after u have comedown. Tends to help with the hangover it produces the next day and also keep up ur multi vitamin intake as well the next day especially. Tbh honest i dont condone any drug usage LOL but rackin for beginners is the best way to experience it especially if its ur bday that way u dont have to worry about toking in the bathroom or wherever lol
 
^Most of the serious dental problems that are associated with meth use are due to poor dental hygiene whilst tweaking for days on end and the lack of saliva which is a common side effect of meth use.

Having good dental hygiene whilst high will eliminate most problems, such as tooth rot.
 
I first started having amphetamines 22-23 years ago. Had them "often" (once a month to 2-3 weeks in a row first few years), off and on usage after that as in 6-12 months may not have any use or 1-2 nights out on it. Around late 90s to 5ish years ago, had GOOD meth (better than any 'ice' we have ever seen and I've seen a lot trust me) almost every weekend in 6-7 years. Missed a few weeks sleep due to this usage.

Anyway, teeth are fine. I'm almost 40, always did research on the best way to look after myself. Don't brush too often on meth use, I brush my teeth lightly 2-3 times a day when I used to use meth and lightly used mouth wash/gargle probably 2-5 times a day, especially on week benders. I've had somewhat heavy drug use since I was 13 (mainly weed + cocaine for first 6-12 months, then acid + amphets) so I knew I should look after my health. Been nursing nerve damage from a motorbike accident in 2006 (I get much more adraneline rushes from riding hard so I've given up drug use except for oxycontin + tramal for pain from the nerve damage and have been taking piracetam for 8 years or so to keep up my reactions + have a memory)

Moral is, (semi) constant drug use DOESN'T have to be damaging to one's health + hygiene (teeth included), it's how you look after yourself on the drug. Go for day(s) without brushing, lack of saliva as a natural cleansing agent in mouth with no supplementing for it with mouth wash and the like will more than likely give you the "meth head" look that these red necks look like that the media show in my view. I'd say methadone is in the same basket, maybe being a "full time smoker" (of drugs, nicotine and/or stimulants) could be doing direct damage, I was never BIG into smoking meth, I would here and there but felt the high was too short for the usage. I love the long time frame high, not the 'short but intense' usage :)
 
Thanks for all the advice guys and the birthday wishes.

I ended up starting drinking at 3pm. And did a line of about a third of a point at 6. that kept me feeling pretty good and socialable til 8.30 when I lose the peak but still felt good. So went and smoked a quarter of a point. I was surprised at how much smoke you get out of it. burnt for ages. that definately got me rocking and in a great mood. Then at about 11 smoked the remainder and got pretty damn high. I had SO much to drink that night (luckily next to none of it bought by me).

We went out to another club on the way home which was pretty dead. A friend gave me a 5mg Adderal which perked me up abit. Had a bit of a boogie, and chatted stacks to my girlfriend and had some D&Ms. She took some adderal for the first time. Then (maybe foolishly) went though about 15mg valium spaced over an hour. by about 5pm I was pretty buggered. I actually got to sleep within about 5-10 minutes of my girlfriend stopping talking (she was pretty wired).

Woke up feeling like SHIT. REAL SHIT. but not in so much a comedown way, but more of one of the worst hangovers I have ever had. Have felt very painful. But been popping some xanax and about 300mg codeine, which has got me feeling pretty damn fine.

All up the ice was good. A friend who is experienced had a toke and said it was good stuff. If I would of had a bit more, and maybe not gotten so drunk, I might have enjoyed it more. But the price of it will stop me from using it for anything but special occassions.
 
Ignatius J. said:
First off - Happy Birthday - and nice way to celebrate too :)

To get the most out of what you've got i would

1. Over the course of the day load up on Ural (urinary alkalizer sold at your pharmacy)...if you dont wanna fork out the $$$ then you can go bicarb soda (do 1 teaspoon every 30 mins n the 2 hours prior to crystal consumption..be warned IT TASTES TERRIBLE)...also pop a zantac or two if you have them on hand (optional)

2. Stay away from spicy/acidic foods & beverages all day - no OJ or Coke (the drink)

3. About 30mins prior to party time - put 1/3 of your gear in regular sized glass of WATER or other NON ACIDIC BEVERAGE - NON ACIDIC - i cant stress this enough. Chug that back - it should taste like horrid chemicals that remind you of dead ants coated in fly spray.

4. Then immediately rack up another one third of your gear - - i suggest covering it with a $$ note when you go the initial crush to stop bits flying everywhere - make sure you crush and chop well - big shards burn the SHIT out of your throat on the post nasal drip and you end up with ulcers back there. SNORT SNORT SNORT.

If you have timed this right your guests should now be arriving and you will be feeling pretty chatty and perky...bask in the glory of your awesomeness in knowing you are the life of the party (and in the knowledge that you still have 1/3 of this magical stuff remaining)

5. When you notice things aren't as good as they were before, maybe you're getting a bit sketchy or annoyed at little things or you find people incredibly annoying - ITS TIME TO REDOSE. - Excuse yourself and consume the remaining 1/3 of your gear. I'll leave the method up to you based on prevailing circumstances.

Enjoy

OTHER ADVICE

A) DO NOT SMOKE IT - especially before hand - you'll spend your entire party locked away by yourself twirling the pipe. Not a great way to spend your birthday..Plus the high isnt that great...thats why you always want just one more.. In fact, with the amount of stuff you have you'll prbly blast through it within 30mins and spend the rest of the night on the phone chasing up some more.

B) Shards + Small doses of Xanax are actually quite nice in combo --> you don't have to wait till you're in the 7th circle of hell (a.k.a the comedown) to pop your benzo. I find that once the initial euphoria is over, popping 0.25-0.5 mgs of Xanax is a very pleasurable experience...it wont make you too drowsy so you wont nod off allowing you to fully appreciate the benzo high. (Warning - staying awake on Xanax can result in serious Kleptomania in susceptible individuals - apparently you lose your ability to distinguish right and wrong)

C) DONT STRESS or go into it with to higher expectations, you'll only be disappointed. Keep in mind the effect that your mental state has on the over all drug experience - remember meth is a stimulant - provoking (in part) a norepinephrine response from your body - if your body is already stressed out, you're gonna be overloaded on this stuff already and therefore not have the necessary reserves for the meth to release...ergo - less intense drug experience.

Phew..think thats about it from me. I really should find something better to do with my friday nights..lol...are there any ladies out there browsing bluelight forums?? If it wasn't obvious from my post..Im available. HAHAHA. :P
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Would Ural that's expired since april 2009 still be as effective? Also it says four a day isn't one enough? lol
 
psytaco said:
A friend gave me a 5mg Adderal which perked me up abit. Had a bit of a boogie, and chatted stacks to my girlfriend and had some D&Ms. She took some adderal for the first time.
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Are you sure it was Adderall (d/l-amp) and not a dexie (d-amp)? Adderall isn't scripted in Australia (atleast I'm fairly certain).

Sounds like you had a nice bday :)
 
puckboy said:
Are you sure it was Adderall (d/l-amp) and not a dexie (d-amp)? Adderall isn't scripted in Australia (atleast I'm fairly certain).

Sounds like you had a nice bday :)
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It was an Adderal. i got it from an American friend of mine. She's gets scripted it for ADHD (though pretty sure she isn't;)). Came as a time release cap, but I opened it and chewed the little ball thinies to do my best to make it take effect quicker.
 
Yeah can't say I have had meph since midway through the year, and it was obviously cut.

Ironically, a few months ago I was sold 'mephedrone' but it was really MDPV. Funny considering when you used to think you were buying MDMA, it was meph. Now even meph has its knock offs.
 
If you only have 1 point eat the shit,it takes an hour to kick in,is less intense and lastes longer..I'm from the US tho and we do a halg gram or more in one injection her eof very pure shit,but I do not like to smoke it as you will get a donged out head feeling kinda.Either snort it or eat it to be sociable..I am socaible after a 1/4g or more Iv shot after being awake for a week or so,although only among my friends...lol..it's so cheap here its an epidemic where I am as is cocaine which is very pure and cheap where I am also...Heroin is not as popular here,but is becoming more so...anyway be careful with meth..I started in 1995 at age 18 and still have all my teeth and I am not a brain dead zombie...lol..but i know plenty who used for a few years that have few to no teeth,are crazy in the head and are in and out of jial for stealing to buy the meth...whu I dunno it's cheap enough to get a 1/4oz and sell 1/4 gram and 1/2 aqnd grams to make back your money and have a gram or so of free meth,plus it's easy to make,but thats another story ...lol..
 
Hi guys,

my birthday is on the weekend so I'm wanting to get on it. normally I would go with pills or speed, but the pills are shit and I can't get speed. so instead I am getting one point of Ice.

I was wondering:

1) How long are effects expected to last if smoked?
2) What is a good starting dose for smoking? I'd like to be high and sociable not completely fucked (that can come later) as I will have to talk to plenty of people.
3) any other good advice.

I am a little experienced with smoking speed (rock/powder) but never smoked Ice. Are the effects similiar

Kind regards hommies and hommettes.
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Speed is "ice". Crystallized methamphetamine. Unless you're talking about 4-MAR, which is 4-methylaminorex, you'd be better of using that shit for studying purposes.

1) How long are effects expected to last if smoked?
Methamphetamine 4-6 hours. Depends on the quality of your shit. Some people can go 12 hours straight, but that was back in the golden age of methamphetamine production, where amateur cooks had become professional cooks that all can be contributed to a website, detailing the synthesis of pseudo-ephedrine via. RP/I method.

If you are talking about 4-Mar, then I think it goes on for at least 12 - 16 hours, with effects lasting up to 24 hours.

2) What is a good starting dose for smoking? I'd like to be high and sociable not completely fucked (that can come later) as I will have to talk to plenty of people.

4-mar will make you an introvert, whereas crystal meth will make you in to a jabbering lunatic. A good starting dose for 4-Mar is approximately 25 mg. A good starting dose of crystal methamphetamine is somewhere between the 100 mg to 150 mg range, from recollection.

3) any other good advice.

Play it cool, brother. If you got jipped outta some good shit, then I suggest that you just drink shit loads instead, How old will you be and Happy Birthday to you,
 
Mr Squiggle I found that 4-MAR makes for a much more extroverted night out than that on the shards..

However that would be a discussion for the 4-MAR thread..

I find that most of the meth around will last at least 8 hours from a single dose, with some of the higher doses with effects up to 12-16 hours...

However I always have much more fun on a night out on speed/meth/crystal/whatever you want to call it than I do with mdma (when one can find it).

Space out your doses for maximum energy potential and don't forget to drink plenty of water and eat every 12 hours or so even if you don't want to.

Stay safe and remember that the higher you get the further you have to crash..
 
Mr. Squiggle! said:
Speed is "ice". Crystallized methamphetamine. Unless you're talking about 4-MAR, which is 4-methylaminorex, you'd be better of using that shit for studying purposes.

1) How long are effects expected to last if smoked?
Methamphetamine 4-6 hours. Depends on the quality of your shit. Some people can go 12 hours straight, but that was back in the golden age of methamphetamine production, where amateur cooks had become professional cooks that all can be contributed to a website, detailing the synthesis of pseudo-ephedrine via. RP/I method.

If you are talking about 4-Mar, then I think it goes on for at least 12 - 16 hours, with effects lasting up to 24 hours.

2) What is a good starting dose for smoking? I'd like to be high and sociable not completely fucked (that can come later) as I will have to talk to plenty of people.

4-mar will make you an introvert, whereas crystal meth will make you in to a jabbering lunatic. A good starting dose for 4-Mar is approximately 25 mg. A good starting dose of crystal methamphetamine is somewhere between the 100 mg to 150 mg range, from recollection.

3) any other good advice.

Play it cool, brother. If you got jipped outta some good shit, then I suggest that you just drink shit loads instead, How old will you be and Happy Birthday to you,
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Easy cowboy those doses are a bit large for those without a tolerance!! 4-Mar is active around the 10mg mark from memory. I don't know how pure your Meth is/how much of a tolerance you have but I never need more than 50-100mg a night.

Otherwise great advice.
 
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