Cocaine Taking a medicine to quickly lower blood pressure during Cocaine binge

[cocaineco]

I do 12 hour cocaine binge twice a year. I dont have blood pressure issues in general. but I have high blood pressure during cocaine use, accompanied with terrible headache and ruined experience. My heart rate beat is around 120-130 during that time.
How safe is it to take a medicine to quickly lower blood pressure during a binge? What other methods can I use to lower it? I've read cranberry juice helps.

 

[Skorpio]

Cranberry juice is a weak diuretic, which should help some (less plasma volume equals less blood pressure). This is likely a safe combo.

Most other common blood pressure meds either relax the veins (calcium channel blockers, nitric oxide potentiators) or decrease norepinephrine release (ie clonidine).

Clonidine actually gets prescribed with stimulants for adhd, so is likely to be somewhat safe (and i can't find anything about it potentiating the arrhythmia risk of cocaine via it's sodium channel blockade).

It should be taken in low doses and sparingly. Chronic use of clonidine produces a truly dangerous rebound effect if you stop, so it must be tapered if used for more than a few days consecutively.

People also mix benzos with coke, which would likely blunt some of the blood pressure effects. Of course this also makes people act like fucking nutters and can full the high, so i wouldn't reccomend it in your case first line.

 

[cocaineco]

Thanks for the detailed response. I'm looking for immediate solution to lower blood pressure, I don't want to have to continue taking medicine next day. Clonidine sounds interesting as long as it has immediate effect, I will look into it. I take about 1.2g during a full binge. I don't think the amount is too high to cause a heart attack but I'd feel safer if I had some sort of medicine with me just in case.

 

[Skorpio]

Alternately to clonidine the medications tizanidine and guanfacine have the same mechanism of action (alpha 2 adrenoreceptor agonism, these receptors are on the neurons that release norepinephrine, and agonizing then causes the brain to think there is a shitload around so it doesn't release more. This should work with cocaine because cocaine doesn't force release like amphetamine type compounds, it just keeps the neurotransmitters from being cleared from the synapse).

I can personally vouch for tizanidine taking the edge off of comedowns quite nicely without any weird or worrying cardiac effects noticed (though my dosages were never that high).

 

[OpiateKiller]

Natural remedies - magnesium, COQ10, fish oil - all have studies showing they slightly lower blood pressure.

Cialis, although dangerous when combined with coke, Lowers blood pressure

Clonidine is a great option although can cause erectile dysfunction so if your cocaine binges are sexually infused I’d avoid.

And lastly good old heroin or Xanax always did the trick for me to comedown

 

[cocaineco]

I use Xanax to come down and it works great, however, I don't wanna use it while I'm binging. My main issue is god awful headache triggered by hypertension and it just won't stop no matter how many pain killers I take unless I can lower my blood pressure.
Adding "tizanidine and guanfacine" to my research list. Thanks.

 

[Robi]

I use Xanax to come down and it works great, however, I don't wanna use it while I'm binging. My main issue is god awful headache triggered by hypertension and it just won't stop no matter how many pain killers I take unless I can lower my blood pressure.
Adding "tizanidine and guanfacine" to my research list. Thanks.

Are you Drinking lots of water?? im not prone to headaches, even messing with drugs(except trazadoneowie`)but i sure get headaches when i neglect water intake, limit salt if you consume it while tootin ,when i took coke(freebase), which was not often, i was so very young, but id drink alot and smoke a pack, and eat salty lemons with my tequila,just some natural advice, DRINK WATER! water water water........i wish you well

 

[plumbus-nine]

Propranolol is a good one too, of course clonidine/tizanidine and there's a combined alpha and beta blocker whose name I just forgot. Might be carisoprodol.

 

[cocaineco]

Alternately to clonidine the medications tizanidine and guanfacine have the same mechanism of action (alpha 2 adrenoreceptor agonism, these receptors are on the neurons that release norepinephrine, and agonizing then causes the brain to think there is a shitload around so it doesn't release more. This should work with cocaine because cocaine doesn't force release like amphetamine type compounds, it just keeps the neurotransmitters from being cleared from the synapse).

I can personally vouch for tizanidine taking the edge off of comedowns quite nicely without any weird or worrying cardiac effects noticed (though my dosages were never that high).

I'd like to take Tizanidine to help me with the headache and then to be able to continue binging.
Is 1.2 gram during 12 hour period considered too high for someone with no tolerance?

Are you Drinking lots of water?? im not prone to headaches, even messing with drugs(except trazadoneowie`)but i sure get headaches when i neglect water intake, limit salt if you consume it while tootin ,when i took coke(freebase), which was not often, i was so very young, but id drink alot and smoke a pack, and eat salty lemons with my tequila,just some natural advice, DRINK WATER! water water water........i wish you well

I drink lots of water and it probably helps but I am very much prone to headaches.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Brother it's an easy fix.

Get a high quality Magnesium Supplement ... Chelated... not Oxide it's poorly absorbed.

Take 3x the dosage recommended on the bottle. Don't worry you eat the whole bottle and the only side effect would be diarrhea.

Magnesium is recommended during or after MDMA use to reduce tension and relieve tension headaches.

Try it

 

[cocaineco]

Brother it's an easy fix.

Get a high quality Magnesium Supplement ... Chelated... not Oxide it's poorly absorbed.

Take 3x the dosage recommended on the bottle. Don't worry you eat the whole bottle and the only side effect would be diarrhea.

Magnesium is recommended during or after MDMA use to reduce tension and relieve tension headaches.

Try it

Thanks I'll try that. Do I take it before I start binging or while I'm binging?
During... Got it.

 

[OpiateKiller]

Thanks I'll try that. Do I take it before I start binging or while I'm binging?
During... Got it.

Either way you could take it during the beginning or when you need relief from the high BP / headache. Definitely worth a shot as it's a supplement with minimal side effects compared to prescription alternatives and cheaper and easier to obtain

 

[MsDiz]

Have you any way of measuring your BP when you have these headaches? The wrist cuffs are not great but better than nothing.

It’s concerning that you’re having headaches whilst binging. What painkillers are you using that aren’t working?

 

[cocaineco]

Have you any way of measuring your BP when you have these headaches? The wrist cuffs are not great but better than nothing.

It’s concerning that you’re having headaches whilst binging. What painkillers are you using that aren’t working?

I could measure it but my next binge date is few months away. I'll do it next time for sure.
I know its a high BP because usually when I have a headache its either coming from the left or the right side. Pain caused by hypertension always comes from the back of my head and I can feel it too. My usual heart rate is also around 70 and while binging it goes up to 130. What would be the alarming level of blood pressure during binging?
I'm using regular pain killers you can find at the pharmacy like ibuprofen. oh and after the session when I take the Xanax, headache goes away, so that is another indicator that its a blood pressure related headache.

 

[nznity]

Careful with so long binges... u can drop dead anytime. Even if it's only twice a year.

 

[nznity]

I don't wanna piss on your parade but you shud reconsider doing coke altogether such a shittty drug stained with blood. That drug is fking cursed.

 

[cocaineco]

I don't wanna piss on your parade but you shud reconsider doing coke altogether such a shittty drug stained with blood. That drug is fking cursed.

Do you mean what it might be cut with? Because I do test it for purity to make sure.

Careful with so long binges... u can drop dead anytime. Even if it's only twice a year.

What would you consider safer option? I did not realize 12 hour binge was that long, but I do agree with you on principal.

 

[MsDiz]

I could measure it but my next binge date is few months away. I'll do it next time for sure.
I know its a high BP because usually when I have a headache its either coming from the left or the right side. Pain caused by hypertension always comes from the back of my head and I can feel it too. My usual heart rate is also around 70 and while binging it goes up to 130. What would be the alarming level of blood pressure during binging?
I'm using regular pain killers you can find at the pharmacy like ibuprofen. oh and after the session when I take the Xanax, headache goes away, so that is another indicator that its a blood pressure related headache.

I would be concerned about your use to be honest. I think it would be wise to not binge such a large amount if at all possible.

I realise this is a HR forum but sometimes the best advice is telling a person that the drug they are abusing is obviously not reacting well with their system.

I would be very concerned that you have such high BP during these binges that you are getting a headache. It’s not a good sign and whilst using medication to reduce blood pressure may help it’s risky. Medication for serious hypertension isn’t something you just use one off, it needs time to work. It can take a few hours for BP to come down after administration of those meds.

 

[cocaineco]

I would be concerned about your use to be honest. I think it would be wise to not binge such a large amount if at all possible.

I realise this is a HR forum but sometimes the best advice is telling a person that the drug they are abusing is obviously not reacting well with their system.

I would be very concerned that you have such high BP during these binges that you are getting a headache. It’s not a good sign and whilst using medication to reduce blood pressure may help it’s risky. Medication for serious hypertension isn’t something you just use one off, it needs time to work. It can take a few hours for BP to come down after administration of those meds.

I think you are right. I just don't understand why I have such reaction to it when I'm otherwise healthy? I never got headaches when I was taking MDMA but for some reason Coke gives me headaches that could kill an elephant.

 

[MsDiz]

I think you are right. I just don't understand why I have such reaction to it when I'm otherwise healthy? I never got headaches when I was taking MDMA but for some reason Coke gives me headaches that could kill an elephant.

Even that sentence scares me! “Headaches that could kill an elephant.”

Look, you’re getting nothing out of using it are you? If you’re getting such severe headaches then it must not be fun.

I really don’t think stimulants are something you should be abusing. I do honestly think you’re risking your life.

Please be safe. If you do use them don’t binge such large amounts but I honestly think you should not use them at all.