Stimulants Tagamet and Tyrosine help(and other ways to aid comedown, beforehand).

[sir_thizzalot]

So I'm wanting to start taking these with my dexamp to apparently make it a little stronger(?, tagamet, I understand how it works, I'll take it before some opiates now too), and the comedown better(tyrosine). I understand the tagamet decently, but am lost on the tyrosine. Does it help with the comedown later on or what?

My questions are-
-When to take the tagamet and how much(and is 60-90 minutes not eating enough before tagamet for it to work? how long should I wait after eating this and the amp to eat?).
-When to take tyrosine and how much, and wtf this does to/for me? Ima confused

Any things that'd help comedowns plenty I'd be glad to know too. I generally dose not that high compared to most people(talking about rec. dose), start eating 1 hour after taking it, eat plenty of power bars and fruit and tons of healthy/protein stuff throughout and that all helps(I can eat on amp btw). Also take magnesium and some vitamins beforehand(multi vitamin, and some b vitamins on top of it).
I crash harder than the average person(I think, not too much though) but not horribly. Anything on the shelf, or foods I can eat, that would help I'd love to know about. TONS of protein maby?
Things to restore noradrenalin maby? help me out.
thanks!

EDIT: TAKING VYVANSE AS MY DEXAMP, WILL THE TAGAMET MESS WITH THE BREAKDOWN INTO DEXAMP OR WHATEVER VYVANSE DOES? I know it's made to be digested in your(stomach or something), so it can't be snorted. Just checking that tagamet won't fuck this up and make me have no feeling. I will have kyle pills(amphetamine, looks like ecstasy) soon possibly, and can use those if the vyvanse won't work(save vyv. for low amounts for study and such).

 

[Mr Blonde]

Perhaps supplements like 5-HTP... I think there was something you could take that was a similar metabolic precursor for dopamine...

 

[sir_thizzalot]

^
I noticed people talking about that. Doesn't dexamp (in vyvanse form for me, I like more than addy) not do that much to serotonin? I'm starting to take 5-HTP after ecstasy, got that all worked out now(thanks to BL ).

Adding an edit to bottom of first post too..

 

[Mr Blonde]

Amphetamines as a rule don't affect serotonin levels that much, but they do. More importantly, the idea of 5-HTP got me trying to remember what exactly it is that people were suggesting as a dopamine supplement... hmmm...

Also, plenty of anti-oxidants would be a good idea.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

^
wow I just realized I'm not sure I've just gone and tried lots of vitamin C for help(extra multi vitamins, extra b vitamins, food, etc., but maby forgot C..). Should I take it durring and after good amp effects, or also take before(don't want to mess with tagamet)? Also would vitamin E be a big help on top of C, or would C alone be enough?

I don't see harm in taking 5-HTP a few hours after dexamp(it may make me better the next day), so I guess I'll try that too. Thanks~

 

[Mr Blonde]

In regards to your edit... I don't believe so, from my quick googling lisdexamfetamine is metabolized first-pass via hydrolyzation, inhibition of CYP450 enzymes by tagamet shouldn't affect that.

ETA: Not sure about which anti-oxidants are best, but they should be taken beforehand to reduce the oxidative stress that amphetamine can put on your brain. Using anti-oxidants is complicated though if I remember correctly, and some anti-oxidants can in fact become oxidative agents in the brain under certain conditions.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

^
Alrighty. I'm thinking I'll just take C this time as far as anti-oxidants(some E is in my multi vitamin, taken maby 2 hours before tagamet), 1000mg before and 1000mg near the end.
Anything to note about Vitamin C messing with tagamet? Should I take before or after the tagamet?
And you've been a big help with lots of questions today, thanks!

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I would strongly advise multi-vitamins with a high amount of magnesium, or, magnesium supplements.

I find 400mg of magnesium really does help reduce the jaw clenching nature of amphetamine.

Centrum only has 100mg per tablet, but I have multivitamins with 400mg of magnesium each.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

I would strongly advise multi-vitamins with a high amount of magnesium, or, magnesium supplements.

I find 400mg of magnesium really does help reduce the jaw clenching nature of amphetamine.

Centrum only has 100mg per tablet, but I have multivitamins with 400mg of magnesium each.

I have magnesium tablets, 400mg each, on top of multi vitamin. That's what I use. thanks!

ANYBODY FEEL ANTI-OXIDANTS LOWER ANY GOOD AMPHETAMINE EFFECT, LIKE THEY DO FOR ECSTASY(for me)?

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ They lower the effects of MDMA for you? Weird... could you expand on that?

 

[sir_thizzalot]

^ They lower the effects of MDMA for you? Weird... could you expand on that?

Sure-
When I take 1 Emergen-C packet 30 minutes before my MDMA(along with magnesium, but I don't think that does anything negative), I tend to not get Euphoria durring my roll, and the peak seems to be a bit shorter, and any afterglow is pretty much gone(take 1 packet 30 minutes after peak too). I've noticed this for myself, and apparently others have too(some people said they did in the vit. C/5-HTP thread after I said this). I didn't expect any change and that's what I noticed. From now on I'm going to take the C near the end of my peak or just after I'm done peaking.

oh yeah, forgot to add- if I ever want to be really clear headed for a whole roll, I'll just take the C 30 minutes before and take a little more mdma than normal(~170mg). That way I get a really good body high but am clear headed(compared to not taking anything before).

 

[sir_thizzalot]

bump for orig. topic. Will probably be trying whatever I decide on on monday or tuesday.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

Anybody? The plan is currently that I will take the tagamet 30 minutes before the vyvanse.

WHAT ABOUT THE TYROSINE? I'll also take some more Vitamin C partway through and after to aid comedown. Still not sure what to do about the tyrosine though, is it that helpful?

I'll probably try the tagamet with Oxy first, tomorrow possibly.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

Aaaaanybody? comeon!

If someone could recommend how much of each and when to take that'd be great. I'm thinking:

start 2 tagamet
30 minutes later take the amp.
when the amp. effects are obviously dieing take the tyrosine.
IS THAT SOUNDING GOOD?

Also for oxy, won't eat 2+ hours then will take 2 tagamet, then oxy 30 minutes later(10mg, I think should get me good with the tagamet ).