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Tackling the small issues: Tattoos in the workplace

on the tattoo (which will have its own thread soon ;))...

a) one could wake up dead tomorrow ;), so who cares about the future? certainly not those who flaunt with death by taking class a drugs.

b) i was going to mention long sleeve shirts too, and has nobody heard of make up?

c) whoever suggested it was wrong because it was an ancient macho thing, remember that when your mate rocks up with a new piercing and asks for your opinion.
 
guys: wanna argue? start a 'is a tattoo art?' or some such thread. or fuck off; otherwise i'll warn you because i'm a nazi, which is fun :)

i can't see yarni's photos :(

joel: that is a fucking great.
 
Brad - sit and rotate

and in regards to the tatts, I have no issues with tattoos (planning a couple for myself, actually), however, that would certainly limit me to wearing long-sleeves when job hunting or at work.

I guess I'm a realist and not a complete hardkore rebel

breakyaself: aahaahahhaa.
piss poor effort. I'm sure everyone working a professional is a suit. Yes, I'll believe that now
 
MoeBro said:
Brad - sit and rotate

and in regards to the tatts, I have no issues with tattoos (planning a couple for myself, actually), however, that would certainly limit me to wearing long-sleeves when job hunting or at work.

I guess I'm a realist and not a complete hardkore rebel

breakyaself: aahaahahhaa.
piss poor effort. I'm sure everyone working a professional is a suit. Yes, I'll believe that now
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Then tell me any type of professional job that would look down on tatts and you couldnt wear a suit or a long sleave t-shirt to the interview ? Because once they hire you, they cant fire you because of a tattoo ! I am sure that some people have enough sense to cover it up for the first few weeks that they are there, then wahtever. Seriously, thinking that a tattoo in that placement is going to downgrade the type of job you get is very short sighted.
 
lostNfound said:
=DYou have the head of a crash test dummy=D
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And the body... of a crash test dummy.

It's a hard life.

[edit: back off-topic for a second: the most tattooed person (and I know some very tattooed people) I know is a software engineer for my company. He's very professional, and makes about £40k I would guess (not that I've looked). But I have to admit, this is an industry with a higher tolerance for weirdness than most professions where you'd be making the "professional" salary.

I have plenty of opaque shirts (and some really nice ties) if anyone needs to borrow one for an interview ;)]
 
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breakyaself said:
Then tell me any type of professional job that would look down on tatts and you couldnt wear a suit or a long sleave t-shirt to the interview ? Because once they hire you, they cant fire you because of a tattoo ! I am sure that some people have enough sense to cover it up for the first few weeks that they are there, then wahtever. Seriously, thinking that a tattoo in that placement is going to downgrade the type of job you get is very short sighted.
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Do you really believe that? If an employer doesn't believe that you fit the image of the company you're representing then they will no doubt find a reason to fire you soon enough.

I would imagine most companies would look down upon large obvious tattooes, especially if you had contact with clients. That doesn't mean it would be impossible to find a job in a professional environment.
 
I am still after an argument that tells me of a professional position where one has client contact, or would be frowned upon, where they are forced to wear short sleave tops. I dont need to hear 1000 hypotheticals, if you have been in the situation, tell us all about it !

Why be diplomatic when you can argue :)
 
It's all been said.

People shoudn't be judged by something like that, but reality sucks.

I know in my future profession visable tattoo's would be heavily frowned upon, so I have all mine on my torso. Yep, I'm conforming to societies norms, I suck, but don't need to be judged negativly when I can avoid it.

The tattoo'd person in question seem's quite content with their tattoo, where's the argument?
 
Man, there are some serious fucking squares in this thread. If you want to get a goddamned tatt, then do it, if an employer happens to be the kind of anally retentive fucktard that they would NOT employ you on the basis of a tattoo which, well lets face it, not that many people are going to see, even if it IS on a goddamned foream, you have to ask yourself, is it the kind of workplace you WANT to be working in?

I've been fired from many jobs (some would say its my career), one of the proudest moments was when I got fired (in part) for having two ear studs, the chicks at the office had oh so fucking many earrings, hell even the hypocritical bitch ass cunt who fired me was wearing a couple of em. I made sure I informed them of this fact at the time, as well, which did me good. The fact is though, you're a lot better off without those kinds of jobs, because frankly if you're going to have a career, and that implies a LONG time and a LOT of time, you don't want to have one in a workplace that's full of dickheads & intolerant tards.

I'm thinking I'm going to get a tatt, and its probably going to be one thats going to ensure that 99% of the population, if they saw it, would think I'm a lunatic or blindly hate me. But you know what? Fuckem, I wouldn't have it any other way. ;)

pl4yer0ne your tattoo is a fucking masterpiece, ignore the tards with no taste. :)

Lostpunk, you are definitely on my wavelength. ;)

Fuckem.

Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your bosses! =D

-plaz out-
 
Almost certainly a variation on this theme...

*edit this one is better... no wait... this one is*

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Fuckemall! ;)

-plaz out-
 
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ooh :)

i've actually just been reading up on anarchism. i have an acquaintence who's heavily anarchist, and though my previous understanding of it was that it seems, well, nice, it's also rather pointless (i like the ideas of nihilism, but it seems pretty useless in terms of a world view - and that's what i previously understood anarchism to be based on). however, my friend (who's a damn intelligent guy) informed me that there's a lot of stuff under the surface that rarely gets explained.

so plaz, can you recommend me any good literature (books or websites)? (currently i'm just kinda wikipedia-ing it up ;)).
 
oh, the joys of working in the Public Service. =D I work for a Federal Government department, while i'm not sitting at an executive level (yet ;)) i'm not sitting in an entry level position, and my tattoo is visible if i wear anything other than a skivvy (which, in QLD, is pretty likely):

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I also have a labret piercing and both nostrils pierced. They hired me knowing this and had no problem with it, infact, the girl who hired me was asking me if my tattoo hurt and said that my facial jewelry was awesome.

I've seen an EL2 (on about $85,000pa) walking around with his eyebrow pierced, and another EL2 walking around with paroxide blonde hair. Yay for the CPSU! ;)

My best friend is a medical educator in the sleep industry and has a tattoo of a devil girl riding a pitchfork under her right arm. She comes in contact with quite a few doctors, and the like, and alot of them will ask her about it and one doctor pulled her aside at a convention and said that she (the doctor was a woman) had a tattoo on her leg and that she thought my best friends was "sassy" (which it totally is).

PS: player4one, again, awesome inkwork :D If you really needed to hide it, a long sleeve shirt would do nicely:). I don't think a small part poking out is going to "disgust" anyone ;)
 
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breakyaself said:
I am still after an argument that tells me of a professional position where one has client contact, or would be frowned upon, where they are forced to wear short sleave tops. I dont need to hear 1000 hypotheticals, if you have been in the situation, tell us all about it !

Why be diplomatic when you can argue :)
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I don't know many dentists who can have a kick arse tat on their fore arm. Most require short sleaves (or face massive laundry bills). Sure in the public service you can push the boundries a little more but when the paying public is forking out tens of thousands of dollars they expect a certain level of service.

IR is an interesting illusion.
 
^^^

That said, who the hell equates level of service with whether or not the person has ink?

You're right in that IR is the shitty end of a stick which we all have a firm grip on. Which makes it harder, but all the more point in standing up for principle.

-plaz out-
 
Well I will wade into this debate briefly, I have a tatt on my left foot (on the top very bloody obvious) which can obviously be seen for 6 months of the year when it is warm enough not to wear shoes and socks.

I just worked out that through job changes I have had this year I am earning $20K more than I was in January which is pretty bloody good – to that end having a highly visible tatt hasn’t hurt me.

When I went for the interview for the job I am currently in, my tatt was covered as I was wearing shoes and stockings but given I started here in Feb, from my first day everyone knew that I had it and no one seemed to care in the slightest. In fact some people seem to like me more for it – maybe because I am showing a little bit of individuality?? BTW, I work in quite a high level job – prob the equivalent of an EL2 in an office in the city, I have a lot of contact with clients and the public.

I agree with Samadhi & Plazma, if you want something do it – really in the end the only person that you have to answer to is yourself!!!

(my 2c)
 
Noone is saying its not an awesome tat. I think it's one of the best ones I've seen however all we're saying that there are some work environments which are fairly strictly conservative in which, if seen, a tattoo would not go down too well.

Not one person has said, 'OH MY GOD YOU WOULD LIKE, NEVER EVER EVER GET A JOB!!!!!!!' All they're suggesting is that there is no doubt it limits the jobs you could get.

And plazma, you probably didn't get fired for your earrings, it was probably for your bad attitude. If they had really liked you, they would have just asked you to take them out during work hours.
 
Plazma definitely has the right idea. And Pig Tails I totally agree as well.

You only get one short life so who really gives a fuck?

There's always going to be another capitalist cunt for you to give your blood too...
 
Plaz that is unreal! =) where would you get it?


For the record i am perfectly happy with this tattoo.
This isnt a thing i have chosen from a flip-book whilst waiting, many many months of thought are behind this decision.


For those who havent read my journal which goes into detail:

I am a professional. I work in IT as a system/network admin.
I get hired on my ability and past performance, and if you dont like the look of me then thats your problem not mine. There is plenty of work out there in my field so i am fortunate that i dont have to pretend im someone im not.
Im not suggesting that everyone else should go and get their forearm done. Its obviously a very personal thing and clearly there ARE times when it isnt appropriate. I wear a suit to interviews always. If the job turns out to be a place that isnt going to like tattoos then it wouldnt be appropriate for short sleaves either! (luckily im not a dentist i guess). In my experience of IT contracting there arent very many people that still carry issues with piercing and ink and almost 100% of those people are total wankers that you would never want as your boss.


I just think its bloody hilarious that people i would consider open minded are so entrenched in bullshit that they are scared of what society would think of them!

Dont fucking tell us "Oh i would if my job would let me" thats just a lie. boo hoo get a job that DOES let you.

Consume and Obey fuckers.
 
My best friend has a huge tattoo of the grim reaper down the left side of his forearm. It has never hinderd him from getting a job and hes a Sales Rep. But then again it might depend on what type of company you want to work for. Like my mate works for a beer company but if he worked for insurance or something things might be different.
 
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