Stimulants Syringe sizes

[SB1981]

So who here uses detachable 3mL or 5mL syringes with 25 gauge needles? I enjoy and find them much more satisfying as I feel my vein open up as I push it inside. Not damaging like most think. Shit's made for injection. Looks, aside, the largert gauge is ideal and even 27 gauge is too small for me. I like an inch length so I can take more than half if need be. This post is rather pointless, but curiouslity gets me. Insulin needles are too flimsy for me as they are so small. I alsoenjoy the plunge much more with 3mL since it's more volume and gives me more control.

So anyone else use the fancy vein toys?

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

How could you say they aren't more damaging? After prolonged use, using a 25G will collapse your veins and lead to more scarring, bruising, etc, much much faster than using a 28, 29, or 30G. It also depends what veins you are hitting. Smaller more fragile veins, like in the hands, require even smaller syringes, preferably 30 or 31G. Either way, a 25G is massive, and if you keep using that, in a few years, you'll have no veins left.

Use whatever you want if you like it better, but you should enjoy your veins while they last then, because they aint gonna be around long if you keep sticking those whole punches in them.

 

[Coolwhip]

Those gauges are used for drawing blood afaik, not injecting.

 

[BlueIV]

I've been confused by this. Searching shows that hospitals use needles < 25G often. I know in the ER the insisted on using a huge needle, way bigger than what I'm using. I'm supplied with 25G for my hands and have been told they are one of the smallest. What sizes do butterfly needles come in, and is there a chart with the related flow rates?

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

They use those because it is made for a one time usage while in a hospital.. they are not made for an IV user where multiple injections will be taking place over the course of a day for years and years. They are made for drawing blood, and the larger gauge makes them work well with a catheter setup, for ease of running antibiotics or whatever else through the line. But they stick you once. Very different than using a rig that size to jab yourself every time you IV.

 

[BlueIV]

The clinic is giving me these for IV use for a lifelong condition.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Then they are idiots. What lifelong condition are you talking about that required you to inject yourself with 25G syringes..?

 

[BlueIV]

25G needles, the syringes are 20 mL. I don't really want to publically share the condition.
The medication itself comes with butterflies, also 25G, but they supply me with shorter ones as they find them easier.

 

[SB1981]

I have been using 25 gauge since I started injecting, and they are made for just that. My arm veins aren't scarred, fucked, etc. I think 25 gauge is the largest gauge that's deemed safe for the sole purpose of IV injections. These syringes are not any worse than theirinsulin counterparts. I find them easier and easier to stick for some reason. I just took to the detachable larger ones.

 

[SB1981]

They use those because it is made for a one time usage while in a hospital.. they are not made for an IV user where multiple injections will be taking place over the course of a day for years and years. They are made for drawing blood, and the larger gauge makes them work well with a catheter setup, for ease of running antibiotics or whatever else through the line. But they stick you once. Very different than using a rig that size to jab yourself every time you IV.

They are made for intravenous injection, period. Not trying ot debate, just explaining myself. Yes, they are made for injections as I have done extensive research and my veins are in great shape. But to each their own. I was just curious if anyone else used these. The gauge size for drawing blood is about 18-16 in most situations. Those are massive needles. With meth, I personally think 25 gauge is ideal, 27 gauge is the smallest I've used and that was a bit tough. That is my experience from two years of needle play.

 

[SB1981]

Those gauges are used for drawing blood afaik, not injecting.

I must intervene and say that 25 gauge needle are made for injecting and do not hurt or cause scarring if inserted correctly. Larger gauges are more dangerous since 25 is ideal to use for injecting. Of course people will use smaller needles, but I took to these.

 

[BlueIV]

^^

Then they are idiots. What lifelong condition are you talking about that required you to inject yourself with 25G syringes..?

I sent you a PM. Whatever I can do to make this easier, I will do! I'm probably going to have to be IVing for many years, and I'd like to avoid a port if I can.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

They are made for intravenous injection, period. Not trying ot debate, just explaining myself. Yes, they are made for injections as I have done extensive research and my veins are in great shape. But to each their own. I was just curious if anyone else used these. The gauge size for drawing blood is about 18-16 in most situations. Those are massive needles. With meth, I personally think 25 gauge is ideal, 27 gauge is the smallest I've used and that was a bit tough. That is my experience from two years of needle play.

How long have you been IV'ing for..? Point is, take somebody who uses a 29 or 30G needle, then compare them to someone using a 25G (both using good technique) In 5 years for example, whose veins do you think are going to be in better shape...

But, do you man. Ha. If you enjoy sticking that massive ass thing in your arm, (and to say it doesn't hurt anymore than a 30G or do more damage is just not true.. that's like getting stabbed with a sword, or a pencil.. one hurts way worse than the other and is gonna leave a much bigger mark..)

But, whatever I guess. Hah. Good luck.

 

[SB1981]

How long have you been IV'ing for..? Point is, take somebody who uses a 29 or 30G needle, then compare them to someone using a 25G (both using good technique) In 5 years for example, whose veins do you think are going to be in better shape...

But, do you man. Ha. If you enjoy sticking that massive ass thing in your arm, (and to say it doesn't hurt anymore than a 30G or do more damage is just not true.. that's like getting stabbed with a sword, or a pencil.. one hurts way worse than the other and is gonna leave a much bigger mark..)

But, whatever I guess. Hah. Good luck.

Well, I will post up a close up video of how well I aim to get my game. This is just to prove my point. :D Don't forget to hit HD for clear sharp definition.

Don't forget to click HP. Not arguing, just demonstrating my syringe up close. %)

 

[Coolwhip]

I don't think a video of someone with multiple millimeters of scar tissue around his site, jabbing(you can see him punching it in there with pressure, not sliding) that thing in his arm, to finish with blood POURING out of the giant hole he just made...was the best way to get your point across.

 

[SB1981]

I don't think a video of someone with multiple millimeters of scar tissue around his site, jabbing(you can see him punching it in there with pressure, not sliding) that thing in his arm, to finish with blood POURING out of the giant hole he just made...was the best way to get your point across.

No scar tissue, and it's a thicker needle therefore, yes, I tend to insert the needle in rythmic motions, not from stuggling. I was in deep, so the blood is a given and even preferred as I am very precise when I inject. Yes, it was a great way toget my point acoss as you mentioned, though. The hole was from a normal needle, so yeah, it bled after I fed. I love seeing the hole spread as the tip comes out and the warm blood pours from the depth and width. You can see that hole as i removed that spike, and damn was it deep. %)

Very detailed and close up as you saw the hole and blood very well. Then seeing how I removed the needle showed how deep it was. I'm a sick needle fuck, so nm me.

 

[M.Org]

How could you say they aren't more damaging? After prolonged use, using a 25G will collapse your veins and lead to more scarring, bruising, etc, much much faster than using a 28, 29, or 30G. It also depends what veins you are hitting. Smaller more fragile veins, like in the hands, require even smaller syringes, preferably 30 or 31G. Either way, a 25G is massive, and if you keep using that, in a few years, you'll have no veins left.

Use whatever you want if you like it better, but you should enjoy your veins while they last then, because they aint gonna be around long if you keep sticking those whole punches in them.

You have no idea about i.v. injektion. Needles above G27 (0,40 mm thick) are not usable for i.v. because they become clogged with coagulated blood each time.

I use 26G × 1/2" (0.45 × 12mm) (pink) for injecting in my arms and i think they are just ideal.
Usually i set this needle on 5 ml syringe with 3-5 ml solution in it. I try to make a solution with low density because if you miss the vein a hypo-tonic solution will be absorbed much easer, so there is less chance to get an abscess.

Don't forget about buying 0,2 µm syringe filters to prepare the injection.

 

[SB1981]

You have no idea about i.v. injektion. Needles above G27 (0,40 mm thick) are not usable for i.v. because they become clogged with coagulated blood each time.

I use 26G × 1/2" (0.45 × 12mm) (pink) for injecting in my arms and i think they are just ideal.
Usually i set this needle on 5 ml syringe with 3-5 ml solution in it. I try to make a solution with low density because if you miss the vein a hypo-tonic solution will be absorbed much easer, so there is less chance to get an abscess.

Don't forget about buying 0,2 µm syringe filters to prepare the injection.

You, sir, took the words outta my mouth. It's nice to see someone who understands that my needles are ideal for large crook veins, never small ones. The 3mL barrel also is much easier to handle than the 1cc since the plunger doesn't have to go all the wya back. Much much easier and more control as I'm pushing into my vein. I also prefer one inch length so I can go deeper than half if need be. The deeper the better for me,.

By the way, a 25 gauge needle is an average healthy spike size. If you want gigantic, let's begin with an 18 gauge.

 

[Tommyboy]

The problem I see with the larger syringe like in the video is that there is still a lot of movement once you are in, and also since the tip is long it has more movement with you trying to keep it a certain depth into the vein as opposed to shorter tips where you can go all the way in and not have to worry about holding it in place so it doesn't pierce through the vein.

To the person saying that 27gauge is the smallest you can go before it causing the syringe to become clogged every time, there are tons of people that use smaller gauges that have never ran into issues with the syringes becoming clogged so I don't know where you got that from.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^


Yeah in using 29's, 30's, even 31's for the smaller veins, I have gotten a rig clogged maybe twice.

It's pretty simple.. one does less damage than the other. If you're cool with your veins taking twice the beating for no reason, go for it.