synthetic cannabinoids under the microscope in PA, USA

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News article:
Lawmaker hopes to halt spread of 'fake weed'
Monday, August 09, 2010
By Ashley Mannings, Special to the Post-Gazette

HARRISBURG -- It goes by several names, like K2 or Wicked or Spice or Genie.

Whatever it's called, it's dangerous, says a state legislator from Lehigh County, who wants to make the substance, a type of synthetic marijuana, illegal in Pennsylvania.

"Mistaking something that is legal for safe is a big mistake," said Democratic Rep. Jennifer Mann, referring to the substance that is legally sold as incense, but which teens are smoking to receive a marijuana-like high that is undetectable in drug testing.

Ms. Mann has legislation, House Bill 176, to outlaw the possession, sale, use or distribution of K2 or whatever other street name it may go by. The penalties would be the same as those for marijuana violations. Alabama, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana and Missouri already have outlawed the drug.

In Pennsylvania, Ms. Mann said, it's time for "young people to understand there are risks and for parents to know the drug exists."

K2 is a mixture of herbal and spice plant products sprayed with a potent psychotropic drug that is comparable to THC found in marijuana, she said.

Although there aren't any in-depth studies of the effect of K2 on humans, symptoms that have been reported include vomiting, stomach pains, seizures, anxiety and hallucinations.

Last week, the The Patriot-News of Harrisburg reported that a 17-year-old boy went unconscious and experienced body spasms after smoking a form of K2.

Sold as Wicked, Spice, Genie and many other counterfeit brand names, it can be bought at head shops and online for around $30 to $40 per three-gram bag.

"I don't know anyone who pays that much just to burn incense in their home," Ms. Mann said.

In 1995, a research student of professor John W. Huffman at Clemson University synthesized a chemical compound that is sprayed on incense to give users their high.

In an e-mail message, Dr. Huffman stated, "It is simply one of my many compounds, synthesized by my group and others, for the purpose of investigating the relationship between chemical structure and biological activity."

He added that it should not be used as a recreational drug.

Warning labels on the bag read "not for human consumption" but it seems the warnings are being ignored, as news reports from around the country are documenting the negative effects.

An investigation is under way in Iowa to find out if an 18-year-old committed suicide after using the drug.

After consulting with the directors of emergency units at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, media relations director Susan Manko said there have been no reports of medical emergencies believed to be caused by K2 at any of the UPMC hospitals.

"This is such a new substance that there are no federal laws relating to it, and that's the reason for this bill," said Ms. Mann. "There are serious health risks."

A co-sponsor of the bill, Rep. Bill Kortz, D-Dravosburg, said that while the Legislature has a lot to worry about, such as budget deficits, rising pension costs and transportation costs, K2 should also be on the agenda.

"Unless the medical community comes out and says it has proven benefits, I say we don't need more problems," Mr. Kortz said. "We have enough."

With the current two-year legislative session ending Nov. 30, Ms. Mann does not expect immediate action on the bill, but hopes to get children and parents talking about the issue and to build awareness.

"We're going to begin the conversation and work toward banning this substance," she said.
Ashley Mannings is an intern with the Pennsylvania Legislative Correspondents Association.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10221/1078705-454.stm#ixzz0wL4U52xF


Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10221/1078705-454.stm

Rep. Jennifer Mann put forward house bill 176:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/billinfo.cfm?syear=2009&sind=0&body=H&type=B&BN=0176

If passed, this would ban:
1. CP 47,497 and homologues, 2-[(1R,3S)-3-
hydroxycyclohexyl]-5-(2-methyloctan-2-yl)phenol).
2. HU-210, [(6aR,10aR)-9-(hydroxymethyl)-6,6-dimethyl-3-(2-
methyloctan-2-yl)-6a,7,10, 10a-tetrahydrobenzo[c] chromen-1-
ol)].
3. HU-211, (dexanabinol, (6aS,10aS)-9-(hydroxymethyl)-6,6-
dimethyl-3-(2-methyloctan-2-yl)-6a,7,10,10atetrahydrobenzo[
c]chromen-1-ol).
4. JWH-018, 1-Pentyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole.
5. JWH-073, 1-Butyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole.
 
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" Although there aren't any in-depth studies of the effect of K2 on humans, symptoms that have been reported include vomiting, stomach pains, seizures, anxiety and hallucinations."

Um, if those were the effects of using K2, why would people do it?
And since when are the effects of a drug referred to as "symptoms" ?????
 
My sister, on her second and last attempt to smoke pot, nearly had a seizure. She has had epilepsy for most of her life, and pot nearly threw her into an epileptic fit.

I've experienced "anxiety and hallucinations" from cannabis, and they're the types of things you work through if you like cannabis. The possibility of having a seizure is real if you are susceptible, as are stomach cramps and vomiting from high levels of anxiety, though I think these would be rare.

It's entirely possible that synthetic CBDs are more dangerous. So, rather than simply ban those substances, why not just end the ban on MJ and give people a safer alternative? If the general consensus over in CD is any indication, most people would rather have the real deal anyway.

Microscopes are good tools, but you are limited by the quality of the optics, and you're only able to see a tiny portion of the bigger picture.
 
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" Although there aren't any in-depth studies of the effect of K2 on humans, symptoms that have been reported include vomiting, stomach pains, seizures, anxiety and hallucinations."

This is also true for alcohol, among many other things...

Food makes people obese if they eat too much, OH NO, we have to BAN FOOD RIGHT NOW.
 
I know of two people who experienced the first seizures of their lives on jwh-018. It isn't as benign as everyone makes it out to be.
 
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