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Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

Mr Blonde said:
^ But what is that belief based on? Although they were created by a professional organic chemist, there has been little research done on incidence of side effects both short term and long term, on it's metabolism and excretion in the body, etc...

It's a long shot to say they are either safe or dangerous, but sensible to say that it is reckless to use these substances without knowledge of what the risks could possibly be.
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i agree i didnty mean to sound that gung ho. its the same with all rcs really they have not been thouroughly tested. although cannibinoids haver been used quite heavily over the last 6 years with few casualties. compared to say alcohol.
 
NSW joins synthetic cannabis ban

Synthetic cannabis products have been sold in Australia for several years, but recently came to the attention of authorities.

The New South Wales Government has announced it will ban synthetic cannabis from next month.

The drug is currently sold legally online and in herbal and adult stores under names like Kronic, Spice and Northern Lights.

Psychiatrists say the drugs can impair judgement and are not safe to use when operating heavy machinery.

But more worryingly they say the products can be 10 times stronger than conventional marijuana and therefore carry an even higher risk of inducing paranoia and anxiety.

Mental Health Minister Kevin Humphries says the Government has a duty to ban the products because they are a clear risk to health and safety.

Selling the drugs will be banned from July 1, with a ban on smoking them to come into effect a week later.

Western Australia was the first state to ban the drugs after concerns about their use, particularly on mine sites.

South Australia followed suit soon afterwards, but gave no notice of its intentions because of concerns people would stockpile the drugs.

Other states, including Queensland and Tasmania, have also indicated they intend to act soon to ban the products.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/28/3255127.htm
 
i cant get over banning a drug that has not even had much testing done on it . it is crazy the fact it makes people happy and they cant tax it is the real issue. well i think so or scaremongering tactics. i think aus swhould step back and look at nz we can buy it but you have to be over 18 just like alc. oh and they have to list the contents on it. its not that big of a deal im glad its still available. they really should stop with this believe its minimising harm. its creating alot more. i think its bizzare they never take ciga and alc into any off these articles.now they are HARMFUL!!
 
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alcohol producers play a part in stuff getting banned
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any scorce on this? im genuinly interested in the claim.


my GF bought some of this stuff the other day, we havent tried it yet, but yesterday she was told at the sex shop that from today its illegal australia wide, except victoria.
now i dunno if thats true or not, i dont care really, but if this happened, would all the australian stock go to victoria for a quick bulk sale at the shops? what happens with the stock in states where its deemed illegal? disposed of?
 
NZ bans Kronic

New Zealand's Health Ministry has made a snap recall of a popular brand of the synthetic cannabis, Kronic, because it contains a prescription medicine.

Director-General of Health Kevin Woods is warning retailers to remove from shelves herbal smoking product Kronic Pineapple Express.

Woods said the public should not consume this product and to seek medical advice if they felt unwell.

Kronic Pineapple Express contained a benzodiazepine called phenazepam that was not available in New Zealand and only appeared to be used in one country for the short term treatment of anxiety and as an anticonvulsant.

Phenazepam can only be legally supplied when prescribed by a doctor or other prescriber.

The recall makes it illegal to buy, sell, use or possess without a doctor's prescription.

Kronic is marketed as "legal weed" and its creators say there have never been reports of negative side-effects in the seven years it has been on the market.

The product was this month banned in Western Australia, while Tasmania and Queensland have announced plans to tighten restrictions.

The NZ ministry will meet the company importing and manufacturing the product on Thursday and wanted retailers to immediately remove it from sale.

Kronic Pineapple Express is one of a number of branded herbal smoking products containing synthetic cannabinoids.

The presence of the prescription medicine was first suspected from a screening test last month but it took a month to verify.

A similar product is also being investigated and further action may be taken shortly.

Testing of a total of around 40 of these products by Environmental Science and Research (ESR) is currently being undertaken.

Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne said the finding of phenazepam confirmed the dangers of suppliers putting unregulated drugs on the market where their safety was unproven.

"This clearly shows the worth of the Government's moves to change the onus of proof so producers and suppliers of these products need to prove they are safe before they can sell them," he said.

At the moment it is up to authorities to prove products were unsafe before they could be taken off the market.

He said the government would in coming weeks place restrictions on the sale and marketing of products such as those containing synthetic cannabinoids in proposed amendments to the Misuse of Drugs Act.

Smokefree legislation means that it is already illegal to sell these products to those under 18.

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Victoria moves to ban Kronic

A bill has been introduced into the Victorian parliament to ban drugs such as the synthetic marijuana-like substance Kronic.

Moves to ban the substance come after Premier Ted Baillieu said earlier this month the government would work to outlaw Kronic, also known as Voodoo, Kaos and Mango Kush.

Mental Health Minister Mary Wooldridge said if the new laws were passed it would allow prompt action to ensure emerging dangerous drugs were banned.


"These substances are developed by people who are searching for drugs that mimic the effects of existing illicit drugs, but that are not captured by current regulatory frameworks and are therefore not illegal," Ms Wooldridge said in a statement.
The Victorian laws will be interim powers, effective for a year until the substances can be proscribed into legislation and Commonwealth regulations, Ms Wooldridge said.

She said the government would continue to work with the Commonwealth, states and territories to achieve uniform drug laws.

"These emerging drugs are potentially very powerful and dangerous and the coalition government will make sure that they are made illegal at the earliest possible opportunity," she said.

The bill was introduced into parliament late on Wednesday.
Synthetic products such as Kronic were banned this month in Western Australia and will be outlawed in NSW from July 1.

South Australia is also investigating options for preventing the sale and use of the products.

A 30-year-old West Australian man became the first person to be charged with possession of the synthetic cannabinoid on June 21.
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[NZ] Kronic brand banned, others to be tested

The Health Ministry has recalled a popular brand of the synthetic cannabis, Kronic.

Director-General of Health Kevin Woods warned retailers to remove from shelves herbal smoking product Kronic Pineapple Express because it contains a prescription medicine.

Supplier Lightyears Ahead said the substance was not meant to be in the product and it would investigate the "contamination". In a statement it said it would fully cooperate with the ministry.

Mr Woods said people should not consume the product and should seek medical advice if they felt unwell.

Kronic Pineapple Express contained a benzodiazepine called phenazepam that was not available in New Zealand and only appeared to be used in one country for the short term treatment of anxiety and as an anticonvulsant.

Phenazepam can only be legally supplied when prescribed by a doctor or other prescriber.

The recall makes it illegal to buy, sell, use or possess without a doctor's prescription.

Kronic is marketed as "legal weed" and its creators say there have never been reports of negative side-effects in the seven years it has been on the market.


The product was this month banned in Western Australia, while Tasmania and Queensland have announced plans to tighten restrictions.

The ministry will meet the company importing and manufacturing the product today and wanted retailers to immediately remove it from sale.

Kronic Pineapple Express is one of a number of branded herbal smoking products containing synthetic cannabinoids.

The presence of the prescription medicine was first suspected from a screening test last month but it took a month to verify.

A similar product is also being investigated and further action may be taken shortly.

Testing of a total of around 40 of these products by Environmental Science and Research (ESR) is currently being undertaken.

Lightyears Ahead Limited said in its statement that the amount of phenazepam found was very small, 300 parts per million.

"Kronic Pineapple Express is not intended to contain, and Lightyears was not aware that it contain, phenazepam," the statement said.

"On the request of the Ministry of Health, Lightyears is immediately withdrawing Kronic Pineapple Express from sale. Retailers and distributors are requested to immediately return all unsold Pineapple Express product to Lightyears."

The company said it would fully cooperate with ministry requests and would carry out its own investigation to find out how the phenazepam got into the product.

Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne said the finding of phenazepam confirmed the dangers of suppliers putting unregulated drugs on the market where their safety was unproven.

"This clearly shows the worth of the Government's moves to change the onus of proof so producers and suppliers of these products need to prove they are safe before they can sell them," he said.

At the moment it is up to authorities to prove products were unsafe before they could be taken off the market.

He said the Government would in coming weeks place restrictions on the sale and marketing of products such as those containing synthetic cannabinoids in proposed amendments to the Misuse of Drugs Act.

Smokefree legislation means that it is already illegal to sell these products to those under 18.
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[NZ] Banned Kronic still on shelves

Psst. want to buy some Kronic Pineapple Express? Your local dairy may still stock the substance, despite it being banned.

The so-called "legal high", found to contain synthetic cannabinoids and banned from sale on Thursday, was joined on the illegal list yesterday by Cosmic Corner's Juicy Puff Super Strength, after tests revealed they both contained the prescription drug phenazepam, an anxiety medication used overseas.

Yet the Herald on Sunday easily bought a 1.25g bag of Pineapple Express yesterday at Khyber Pass News Agency in Newmarket.

The man serving at the counter - who would not give his name and said his solicitor had advised him not to speak to the media after a previous negative story - said he didn't know he was supposed to remove it from the shelves. Nobody had told him to do so.

If he was told to, he would happily withdraw the product from sale. He said he hadn't been contacted by the manufacturer.

His comments were in contrast to other shopkeepers though. On Dominion Rd, three store owners said Kronic representatives had phoned to tell them Pineapple Express should not be sold - but all three had already voluntarily stopped selling all Kronic products.


Superette owner Sophia Song said after hearing concerns about young people taking the product, she decided it wasn't something she wanted to sell.

Kronic is marketed by Lightyears Ahead, but director Matthew Wielenga couldn't be reached for comment.

Cosmic Corner owner Mark Carswell was also unavailable for comment yesterday, but in a written statement said the company had purchased Juicy Puff "in good faith" from an Auckland firm, London Underground.

"Juicy Puff Super Strength is not intended to contain phenazepam, and Cosmic was not aware that it contained phenazepam."

He said Cosmic would co-operate fully with the Ministry of Health to ensure the product was recalled and would offer a store credit to customers who returned the product.

Stewart Jessamine, manager of Medsafe, the unit within the ministry that is responsible for regulating medicine, said that by early this week all shops should be aware of the ban.

Staff would begin checking stores and anybody caught knowingly selling the banned products could face charges under the Medicines Act and a fine of $20,000 or six months' jail.

Jessamine said the Institute of Environmental Science and Research (ESR) tested 43 cannabinoid-based products after being alerted to the number of people presenting in hospital emergency wards with unusual symptoms after smoking the products.

Those symptoms included disorientation, amnesia, confusion and sedation, and were to be expected in people who'd consumed cannabinoids in combination with alcohol and phenazepam.

Carswell said his industry's leaders would meet tomorrow to discuss a code of practice that would include tests to ensure that all incoming materials were screened for contaminants in the future.
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[NZ] Kronic: Keep it out, say Clive residents

Community pressure has prompted one Hawke's Bay dairy to pull synthetic cannabis Kronic from its shelves.

But other dairies were still selling Kronic brand Pineapple Express yesterday, banned by health authorities this week for containing a dangerous drug.

Other synthetic cannabis products can still legally be sold but Silver Birch Dairy in Clive stopped stocking them after requests from customers.

Manager Kunal Mittal said residents felt strongly that the drug was harmful to users. He felt morally obliged to take some action.

"I called my boss and I said to him, I'm not selling it, I don't care about the job," Mr Mittal said.

"And he said to me, that's okay, it's completely up to you.

"We haven't been selling it for a few weeks now. I think that's a good thing."

He's now displaying a sign outside which said the dairy will no longer be supplying Kronic.

Hastings Police Youth Services Sergeant Ross Stewart applauded the efforts of the Clive community.

"Residents have the right to try and make their communities safe," he said. "They're being proactive and it's great the dairy owners are listening."

The action was also backed by the Foundation for Youth Development Hawke's Bay.

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Programme director Nic Goodman said the sale of drugs like Kronic in places where young people shopped was concerning.

"It's putting it too much in their face."

The Kronic brand Pineapple Express was recalled on Thursday by the Ministry of Health after being found to contain a potentially dangerous drug.

Yesterday, Hawke's Bay Today found two dairies in Napier still selling the product.

Both said they were unaware of the recall. One dairy worker said she was told by her son late Thursday night but had not received any official notice.

She removed it from the shelves after being contacted by Hawke's Bay Today.

The ministry said a recall statement released to media was sufficient notice for retailers, who did not need individual notice to remove the product from shelves.

Hastings adult store Discretion was among retailers to remove Pineapple Express while continuing to sell other brands.

Owner Gordon Arcus was a regular user of synthetic cannabis and classed the effects in the same category as alcohol and tobacco.

"I don't think you'd have any dependency on it," he said.

"I can take it or leave it. It gives you a nice buzz, like a shot of Jack Daniels would. If they ban it all they'll just drive people back to buying from gangs."

Pineapple Express was recalled after Environmental Science and Research found it contained a drug (phenazepam) used to treat epilepsy, drug withdrawal and anxiety disorders.

It also contained four cannabinoids, the effects of which were unpredictable.

Emergency medicine specialist Dr Paul Gee said phenazepam was potent and long acting.

"It has become a drug of abuse as it's not controlled in many countries. Recreational use in combination with other drugs has resulted in deaths."

Kronic importer Starlight Operations Limited said it was unaware of the presence of the drug when it imported Pineapple Express and had recalled all products immediately.
WHAT IS KRONIC?

Synthetic cannabis: A psychoactive drug that mimics cannabis. Available here since 2009. Called Kronic in Australasia and Spice elsewhere.

Pineapple Express: A brand of Kronic recalled after found to contain the anti-convulsive phenazepam.
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[NZ] Alarm bells ring for 'legal high' dealers

Leading figures in the synthetic cannabis industry are meeting today to discuss ways of reining in their own behaviour to avoid a ban on their products.

The meeting comes after two "legal highs" were found to contain the prescription sedative phenazepam.

Zaid Musa, of Enjoi Products, and Matt Bowden, who imports chemicals used in Kronic, called the meeting after the Herald reported Kronic was being advertised on mainstream radio last week.

Matthew Wielenga from Lightyears Ahead, the company behind Kronic, will also attend.

Mr Musa said the industry was "getting out of control" and the meeting was an effort to rein in behaviour that could lead to an official ban being imposed.

One long-term retailer said sales of synthetic cannabis products "virtually stopped overnight" once the news of phenazepam's presence broke on Thursday.

The meeting will also discuss a code of practice for ingredient testing, limits on advertising, dairies near schools stocking synthetic cannabis and Kronic's pre-rolled joints, which health officials say target younger users.


Screening by Environmental Science and Research (ESR) revealed that Kronic's Pineapple Express and Cosmic Corner's Juicy Puff Super Strength contained phenazepam.

ESR's general manager of forensic research, Dr Keith Bedford, said just over 40 synthetic cannabis products were tested after employers asked about the risks the drugs posed in the workplace.

Although all the analysing had not been completed, Dr Bedford said, "nothing else of the unexpected and alarming nature of finding phenazepam has surfaced".

But he warned consumers not to assume all other products were free of drugs such as the prescription sedative.

"I'm not wanting to imply some kind of blanket assurance that all other products are okay. I simply don't know that."

Dr Bedford said the products contained a "bewildering" number of synthetic cannabinoids in many different combinations. "Products come and go and are reformulated."

Chris Fowlie, co-owner of the Hemp Store in central Auckland, said sales of synthetic cannabis "virtually stopped overnight" after the phenazepam discovery.

He said he had not been not invited to today's meeting, but had a simple message for those who would be attending.

"I'm hoping they pull their heads in, stop chasing the quick buck, and look at the long-term future of the industry."

Mr Fowlie said it was astounding that at a time of intense media interest and clear community concern, some in the industry had paid for radio advertisements.

"It's like some of these guys are just hanging themselves by their own rope. I just can't fathom it."
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anyone who sent money to this and all the other sites run by the same guy.....say good bye to your money.
 
Queensland to ban synthetic drugs such as 'Kronic'

That's surprising, with articles like this a few weeks ago...

The Queensland government will ban synthetically created cannabinoids that have the same effects as cannabis but, in some cases, are not illegal.

Attorney-General Paul Lucas said advances in technology meant the creation of drugs such as "Kronic" that were increasingly being used in the community.
He said more than 380 drugs were illegal in Queensland without a prescription, including cannabinoids, but new drugs were being created that weren't on this list.
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"Advances in technology and people creating synthetic versions of banned drugs mean we need to keep reviewing our laws," he told parliament today.
"People are constantly coming up with new mixtures and compounds that have the effects as cannabis but may not yet be banned because they are chemically slightly different from listed substances."

Legislation will be amended to ban any substances that are "intended" to have a substantially similar pharmacological effect as known drugs, Mr Lucas said.
The issue has also been referred to the Therapeutic Goods Administration and the intergovernmental Committee on Drugs to look at a nationwide approach to the drugs, he said.
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Qld Government moves to ban 'kronic'

The Queensland Government says it will ban synthetic cannabis, sold under names like 'kronic'.

Concerns have been raised about the use of the drug in the mining industry and the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has launched an investigation.

Deputy Premier Paul Lucas says Queensland laws will be changed to include synthetic or 'analogue' drugs.

"Analogues are substances that have a chemical structure and affect that is substantially similar to that of illegal drugs," he said.

"This change will allow us to stay one step ahead and this will overcome the current requirement to prove that an analogue has a substantially similar effect to a scheduled dangerous drug."
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I thought QLD already had a broad analogue law, similar to the federal law. I can't be bothered to look up the state legislation right now (watching X-Files), but I was fairly sure that was the case. If so, it says a lot about the confidence the QLD Attorney-General has in his state's analogue law if he is now talking about have to specifically move to ban these products.

Or it's just part of the media circus show that's been going on for too long now around these substances. :\
 
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