Synchronicity

[RobotRipping]

i don't see how numbers have any significance. Learn other number systems, like hexadecimal, octal, binary and you'll get what i mean.

the number 23 in binary is 10111 or in 8 bits, 00010111. I can't be bothered to convert them to octal and hex in my head but either way, doesn't this show how insignificant numbers are as having any inherent meaning? Our number system is simply based on our fingers, ie. base 10 instead of base 16 like hexadecimal or base 2, binary. Maybe you'll start seeing the binary numbers everywhere now but still it's that precognitive thing the above poster talks about.

i like math and how numbers work and find it fascinating but assigning any arbitrary meaning to these numbers isn't significant to anyone else. The golden ratio, and universal constants are cool and shit but i don't think they mean anything. Look into logarithms and the constant e, that kind of math can let you calculate all kinds of fucking cool shit, like finding the voltage of a capacitor after a certain period (time) of charging lol (Vc=Vs(1-e^-t/rc). Like what is that e doing in there? And what the fuck is e doing in the equations for radioactive decaying atoms? it's the same thing as in electronics, how fucked up is that. I know it represents an exponential relationship and the whole time constant thing but that time constant t=rc pops up all over the place.

e is an irrational and transcendental constant approximately equal to 2.718281828.

now that i find FUCKING weird and amazing, the constant e is used in many, many other applications as well. That is a number that is significant to me, like pi and other fun ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_constant there's another one to obsess about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoryhysical_constants there's a whole page



anyway, the reason i came to this thread was to report my own instance of synchronicity. Waiting for pizza to be delivered, been like 40 minutes, something must be wrong, call the store, while calling the store, the pizza guy calls other phone to say he's here! Holy shit my pizza is here. It's weird but that kind of thing happens so much that i tend to ignore whether it is significant or not, you get caught up in that shit and you've got a ticket to schizophrenia.

During a semi-psychotic break i was obsessed with synchronicity and patterns, to the point it was irritating people but maybe i was actually on to something - that's the mystical thing about this crazy shit, there's no reason to believe that i wasn't. Of course drugs wore off and my life got back to normal and my enlightened sense of such things dissipated but deep inside i still don't know that what i found/saw was real or not.

i think obsessing over the patterns with numbers and their relationships to each other is how these genius's find these physical constants in the first place. I can see the relationship of the numbers and know there's something more to it but they somehow figure it out and put it all together.

 

[What 23]

Alasdair, I was just playing (it was an exercise), for the 5368. I wasn't really implying significance. I could dream meaning perhaps. I was really only doing that because the digits you put down questioning me sum to 23, summing individual ones.

I thought it looked like a shoe, but I have only seen hard ones.

I edited in by the way that E5 might seem more "opposite", before I saw you had. But, also, that is awarding use of another pool. Using just the common numbers (and we don't see binary everywhere. I have not got to it), 53 is just about as close as we get.

As for the numbers you mention beginning with 1 and 45, I don't see how they relate, to 23? Have not been over them all. Perhaps if there was a prior aim/commonality you were going for?

Which brings me to the (Robotripping) bringing up not so common numbering systems. I try to stay in the common, more commonly relative places. But I don't mean to just argue for myself. I have actually experimented with other systems, mostly ones I made up. I actually did find some stuff, in memory. Not that I always would.

I don't mean to ignore what you just wrote otherwise. On the run now. But as for the drugs yea I have noticed this that meaning"" might show through more on them, but I have also experienced the opposite.

 

[alasdairm]

I was really only doing that because the digits you put down questioning me sum to 23...

except that they don't.

alasdair

 

[RobotRipping]

what 23 you should really go for a degree in mathematics if you want to find truly strange things with numbers. You can't really make up a number system lol they are all known, what would a made up number system be? base 11.24565765 ? or better yet Base log e

either way you'll find that you can't work with the numbers in the same way to get the same meaning you find with the decimal system.

look at this:


Binary = 1110 0101
Hexadecimal = E5

you get the e from the first 4 bits of the binary number, 1110 = 14 which = E in hexadecimal and you get the 5 because 0101 in binary is equal to 5 in decimal and in hex. Interesting isn't it?

you would probably shit your pants if i told you the binary of that was somehow related to the decimal number 23 lol. It's actually 229 (base 10) though, and 2+2 =4 which substracted from 9 gives us 5. 3(3)= 9 so here we see represented, 23, 24 and 25. You can't tell me that's really meaningful in anyway though lol. I also made quite a few logical stretches to say it represents those numbers. Shit just though of a better one, if you look at the numbers 229, 2x2x9 = 36.....divide that by 2 and you get 18 well that one didn't work out but we were close. Best i can do is you round up 229 to 230, divide by 10, because it's decimal and why not? and you get 23. finally.

it's kind of funny it was 229 and not 230, because you could at least make a somehwat reasonable argument that it was then significant, 23 and E5 i mean.

 

[What 23]

@alasdair: You in your questioning me (and not including what is quoted) wrote 24, 22, and 5323. 2+4+2+2+5+3+2+3 do sum to 23.

Let me know again if I am wrong.

@Robotripping: Cool. I guess I mean I made up different ways to number things. Technically not "number systems" as would be the common transfer of that term.

I doubt I would shit my pants :D. But I do find other things interesting. If I had the patience I'd love to get into this stuff.

229 is a sum of my full name . One of two that I (commonly) work with... The other being 94.

 

[RobotRipping]

how did you find the sum of your name? lol if there is a sum of your name, then it would have to be a constant decimal number, you couldn't have 2 numbers logically.

i'm tripping pretty hard so i find this stuff entertaining.

Something you may find fascinating is Synesthesia. There was this guy, Kim Peek; the super savant to be exact, who could tell you the colours or tastes (can't remember) of numbers. Correct me if i got the wrong guy lol i just can't remember or find reference to it in particular ATM. I think it was actually Daniel Tammet but he was another super savant anyway.

In music, if i hear an A note, which is 440 Hz, i associate it with the colour green for some reason. You can actually learn music in this way by associating colours with notes and then you can see the notes by their colour and not sound. That's just conditioning, but is there something that underlies this? maybe?

higher frequencies are generally brighter colours for me. Like a low E note being brown and a High E note say E5 is bright yellow or something. i get massive synesthesia while tripping, so i find it interesting. I can hear a chord and know what it is based on my associations with its sound, if it's disharmonious in a certain range then i can say it is this chord or that chord. I haven't been tested on stuff like this since my music classes but i was almost always on when it came to identifying the right note and/or chords with the right notes after hearing it. I don't have perfect pitch but do have relative pitch.

so what does 23 taste/smell/feel like/look like (colour)? would the binary number have the same qualities to the same person? or would it differ? there we can find a bit of objective vs subjective. Are these properties inherent to that number, regardless of how it is represented or not?

if there were properties inherent to 23 that were distinct from other numbers then the argument for its significance could actually go somewhere.

 

[alasdairm]

again, if you cherry pick numbers and shoehorn them to fit, you can make absolutely anything seem connected...

alasdair

 

[What 23]

@alasdairm: It wasn't exactly shoehorning if I view just two ways. It was not such a stretch to make (or see) it fit. I could say I tried to put the shoe on one way and didn't fit, but the other direction it did. Maybe the 5368 was simply, by respect of 23 being a "fit", me putting the shoe on, or trying to put it on backwards?.. or right foot on left foot (not that it works exactly). I don't know, but it wasn't a stretch to make the shoe fit, to put it a way, by this model.

This is not to say I couldn't make or see 5368 as "fitting"/fitting something, if I chose to be creative.

Also it wouldn't be shoehorning (much) to find 23, in your shoehorn, as the one name that can be found/deduced, being "Crow" has an easy "sum" of 23. I admit though, to make that fit, I need to drop the "J.", but I might do that because it could be Jack Jason Jiles Jenny Johan James Josh Judy and I don't know, but I do know it says Crow. And even if I did add J one way as 10th letter being a value of 10, this corresponding to the same way with "Crow" coming to 59, and added to, 69 could be found. 69 as well is divisible by 23 by 3, and it is from 2 parts (J. And Crow). Another total for J+C+R+O+W could be 24 being that J (as 1) added to Crow (as 23), is 24.

Still, with this, it would require less thought if all letters in the shoehorn simply came to 23 (either way I might do), and perhaps, less "shoehorning" would I do. But it wasn't a stretch really, the way I did it. Slipped right in! Something I can take away on my end is that it is never far.

I guess, it could have just said "23", or "Twenty-Three". That would require less work.

To address your most recent "cherry picking" comment, more directly...

again, if you cherry pick numbers and shoehorn them to fit, you can make absolutely anything seem connected...

alasdair

If it is cherry picking, those could be the individual cherries, and the only ones you directly repeated/you yourself included. They had a sum of 23. If a plate (or tree) has 8, 6, or 9 cherries it is hardly "cherry picking" in the sense that you describe, to grab all 8, 6, or 9, and weigh them.


@Robotripping: I haven't experienced synesthesia on the level, or how you describe. I've experienced it but not to where I can differentiate and know what the correspondences are for me. Sounds very cool, though.

What you tripping on?

As for how I get sums, there are countless ways to play with things, but I usually go with normal "numerology" systems minus the final reduction to single numbers, usually. Example: My last name is Thomas. Thomas might be found to have a "sum" of 76 by a correspondence using alphabetical placement of for example T=20 as T is the 20th letter of this alphabet (currently). H would be 8.

Another sum of Thomas using a form where we correlate a single digit per letter, T could equal 2. To find the single digits for single letters, for example, for T being 2, it's placement as 20, the digits would be added to find 2 from 2+0. By this method of correspondence, Thomas has a "sum" of 22.

Further reduction of both can find sums of 4 each, but I don't do that often, as mentioned. For some reason. Maybe one reason is because 23 needs two numbers. Another is that I like the unique variations. But like I said, I think there might "countless" ways to look at things. Some, I just find fit or are easier to play with.

 

[What 23]

On an un-related note, but related to "synchronicity", and perhaps "pre-cognition"/intuition:

I had a non-ordinary thought of a guy I know, named James, having to do with him coming to me, for weed, or drugs. I was passing near his place, I think, when this occurred. I know James from a previous job. I have not had any regular correspondence since he stopped selling weed last summer, so it is rare that we talk at all.

I had this thought of him, and when I got home, only minutes later (half hour?), as I'm rolling a joint, he calls. Out of the non-ordinary, relative to my thoughts, he is asking for assistance in locating drugs- drugs with painkilling properties. This is a first. He has never come to me for help... It was always the other way around. And today just about as I think it, it occurs.

I didn't have access to what he wanted, exactly, but am able to help him with something.

 

[RobotRipping]

i'm coming down now but was on a mix of proscaline/escaline

ever notice how synchronicities occur especially during a trip? or perhaps that you're just more aware of them but the amount of times weird or unusual stuff has happened to me while tripping is certainly not proportional to my non tripping life. I mean really bizzare things, i had a dream where someone was fucking with the front door of my apartment once trying to break in. A few days later i was up all night tripping insanely hard on 2c-e when i start to hear, in the middle of the night at like 4am, someone pounding on my door and jingling the handle, basically trying to get in. Turns out it was some drunk guy who thought it was his apartment somehow but still lol it was fucked up.

other times i just freak myself out when tripping hard, i'll kind of think about asking to speak to a spirit or some shit like that and then i hear random knocks on my wall and scare the shit out of myself. It's tough to tell what is real or not in those scenarios though. I generally try to avoid even thinking about shit like that while tripping, as inevitably i end up scaring myself.

 

[What 23]

^I just thought about how once, on acid, my friend R was driving me around, and for some entertainment we went through an automatic car-wash. A song by Tool was playing... Faaip de Oiad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83R54yAB5Cw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It ended just as the dryers shut off and we were exiting. Simultaneous.

I know this doesn't include any overt suggestion of meaning or anything, but we both enjoyed the synchrony.

Another time, him and another friend of mine and myself were tripping on 2C-E, on the 4th of July, and were at an overlook at a lake to watch some fireworks. A tornado (funnel cloud, spout- here) formed over the lake and made its way up the hill. We couldn't tell if we were just tripping or if we were really seeing this. It was coming up right on us. Then it jumped over us, and it felt like it lifted my car momentarily or extended the shocks then compressed them. We had no idea if it really, really happened, until people later mentioned the tornado. Maybe that's just a story to tell, though. But it felt close.

But really, I notice it normally. But I do notice it more when I'm tripping. I also notice "more" when I'm tripping, in general, perhaps. I wouldn't say it isn't genuine for that reason though (being tripping), but I have noticed when I'm less stimulated, or excited, some of those things don't matter, or aren't seen the same.

I know though... There are more than I can be satisfied with talking about. The dancing with music- it going with your movements. Sounds from the earth. A build up of tension, up to a point, to where you jerk your head one direction, autonomically almost, up to the sky, to meet a meteor burning up in the atmosphere. You can feel it. Voices were whispering/talking in the distance, the entire time, with the tension's rising. Causing it, in a sense. And after- a discernible, "Did he see? Did he see us?", in a sort of playful, innocent sounding- child-like, younger female voice. 2C-D.

Tonight, I was about to release billions of cells carrying in some sense 23 parts (and each 23 parts carrying between 20-25k parts) each, in an act of masturbation. Just as I had applied oil and began, I got a call from work. A run. Great timing guys. Geez. I finish/release, shower, and make my way to the pickup location- a pharmacy. There, I check the patient's name, and birth date to verify if I needed to, with the pharmacist. Here I noticed the patient was born 3/23/1923. Sum of 23 from digits. Enter drop-off location into GPS before leaving, and it estimates that it will take 23 minutes to get there. I estimate my pick up time was right around 2:30.

That was my last run of the night. But I got called on the way, to pick up more stuff for the same patient... So I am guessing it took me 10 or so minutes, more than 23.


I guess I didn't notice synchronicity quite the same before I started tripping. I could say that. But I can't really say that it acted to do anything.

Well, though, I was with Sara on my first trip- A girl I had wanted to be with/pursued (but she was with someone else) for at that point at least two years, though I remember she was one I viewed as unattainable, back in 7th grade/8th grade, and could say it was as far back that I wanted her. Then senior year, millennial new years eve, my first psychedelic experience and getting with her. Alignment. It was at some twins' house. Pool party. You can take the moon on the day I was born- the shape of it, and it can fit snugly with the shape of the moon on the day she was born. I can be technical and assume that the views weren't exactly the same, though.

The acid was orange sun-shine, which I have seen as fitting.

So I guess it was pretty synchronous, the first time on acid, with "meaning" in my life.


I can remember the first time tasting something like meaninglessness, however, was on acid. It was on a pretty high dose. I was laying in bed. I wanted to see God, and all I saw in my mind was a gray mesh of sorts. So it has also done that. Perhaps I didn't get it.



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On an un-related note, but related to "synchronicity", and perhaps "pre-cognition"/intuition:

I had a non-ordinary thought of a guy I know, named James, having to do with him coming to me, for weed, or drugs. I was passing near his place, I think, when this occurred. I know James from a previous job. I have not had any regular correspondence since he stopped selling weed last summer, so it is rare that we talk at all.

I had this thought of him, and when I got home, only minutes later (half hour?), as I'm rolling a joint, he calls. Out of the non-ordinary, relative to my thoughts, he is asking for assistance in locating drugs- drugs with painkilling properties. This is a first. He has never come to me for help... It was always the other way around. And today just about as I think it, it occurs.

I didn't have access to what he wanted, exactly, but am able to help him with something.

He's moving away he informed me, to Tampa, on the 23rd, of June.

My strongest "connection" to Tampa that I know of involves the last girl I fell for- Donna. I met her on the 23rd of January, 2009. Ending didn't come on 23, but a 203 (weeks) from a particular, proposed, "important" time (12/21/2012), and it came when I found her name could sum to 184- same as my mom's, and 184 is 8x23. The dates and timing from dates in some form parallel the time I was born from my mother, in form, as for instance 203 days from the end of the year, and 161-162 days from the beginning, depending on specifics, where from Donna, 161-162 weeks exist from a point in time, on Christmas 2005, where my ex, Marilyn (another with red hair, the end/completer of "mask"), gave me a watch... Which stopped on 23 seconds something.

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And from ending with Marilyn 2300 days give or take 1 or 2 depending on technicality of interpretation exist from 12/21/2012, and 880/888 days from Donna. Correlations/corresponding factors are Christ, as Christmas, and the number 880/888 sometimes being connected with Christ.

The first wedding I took Marilyn to was to Christi Starr's- who I once dated but broke off from around a Christmas (she was marrying Nate Holmes- a friend), where my former roommate, Charles (phone number ending in 3223), was in the rotation/placement to usher her- Marilyn, to her seat. Marilyn's plate number said 23 down the corner, as she was from the 23rd county of Ohio. She lived right off of High street, in Columbus, which is some road designated "23". I later found that Charles and her share the same name sums (94, 220), which was a first for both sums to align. The both have the same complexion, are similar height, and are the first (and only) people with red hair as such, that I had active relationships with. They were also the first people I ended badly with... Though Charles and I recovered some.

Another "bad end" was with Donna, who I often mention. Also with red-hair.

Nate, who married Christi, the last name Holmes is connected to my last name, as an anglicized form of Mac Thomais (McComb), or Mac Thamhais, a patronymic from "Thomas"- my last name.

I began seeing 23 around the time I was hanging out with him quite regularly, as well, watching movies every night just about.

The last wedding I took Marilyn to, to fill this out, was to my cousin's, where we almost broke up. She was marrying a Jewish fellow (her raised Catholic, for measure/for detail). Not that that is in any way connected, and I don't feel like digging for more (connections, as none stand out obviously in a clear enough sense to me, to mention)... but I burnt my arm that day or the day of the rehearsal-before, with a cigarette, on purpose... which was the first (and last) time I ever self-harmed intentionally. It reminded me of how a venomous snake bite might look, as two marks on the underside of my left forearm. I still have a scar, of one. My bible also has on it's cover two marks from certain damage, that I have felt look like a snake-bite. I don't know of anything else/other marks that I have seen to "look like" a snake-bite, except for on my right index finger, which was from a garter or black rat, and can be seen as in the shape of a line, "I", or "1"/hash mark. 1, 2, 3...

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Writing this stuff, related to "Christ", and proposed alignment/structure/order in things, I got called to make a run. Mary Carpenter was the patient. I could keep it to myself, but this was one instance where the name aligned with something local, with my attempted re-building of this image, and the subject of Christ, who was a carpenter. I forget the numbers this time, as they didn't especially stand out first glance.

The other connection I have to Tampa, is a girl I met years ago. Last name Webster. She was my first South American girl, and her lineage is connected to the people who pointed to the date, or led to the pointing of the date that was 203 weeks (as an "end") from Donna. Both of their fathers were/are aircraft pilots. I gave her, Paula (Webster), a book about synchronicity, and a print by Alex Grey, called "Ayahuasca", because it-Ayahuasca originated where a big part of her ancestry came from, and I wanted to give her something, resonant, and to our experience together.

Donna and I talked about trying Ayahuasca together. She would be the first it was talked about, with (and last), though it never happened, because we ended soon after we met (in a sense). The image I gave to Paula (Ayahusaca), has a red-haired woman in a position of yoga. Donna has red-hair. But I'm just getting creative.

*Note: As for numbers, and biases/confirmation bias, I am aware that some numbers stood out more than others, and in some cases it can be seen that I favored ones that did, even if it meant alternating how they correspond from months, weeks, years... Etc. However, I have seen many things as special, or relevant. Not just numbers. But the numbers I choose to look at often favor what I intend to highlight around the experiences/what might have already been felt/experienced. This doesn't mean one couldn't find other stuff, if they wanted.

 

[Foreigner]

What 23, please don't double post. Thank you.

 

[What 23]

Okay. I just did it because it shifted, relating to an earlier post- not necessarily continuing from the one. Was not congruent enough for one post, exactly, IMO. I felt the separation was better for readability so it isn't just one big continuous wall of text. I will try to find a creative way to break it up.

Letter Perfect

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With a girl at a bookstore. Donna Richele Price. She puts her hand on my shoulder as I am flipping through the book, Letter Perfect. I was smiling, looking at the chapter about the letter e.

A voice told me that Donna was my wife, when she asked me, mirroring, asking me back my own questions, who I was. "I'm just me", I replied. I still remember her eyes. Large. Engaging.

I held that in, even though it was strong, and clear, what this voice said. She also heard voices. I doubted things about her all the while having my own. Something is, the voice hit on something I already felt, but was holding back of course- I had just met her. And when I checked her name, later, with my last name, I found the number 184 and 85 as possible sums. 184 can be 2 to the 3rd power x 23. I thought that that was interesting, but the number 184 looked familiar. So I plugged in the numbers for my mom's name's letters, and found the same- 184 (76 for the more reduced sum). But through Donna, I found that my mom's name had this 23, and things did align with my mother.

The apartment she just moved into was 2029 as it's numbers. 2029 and an half. My full name sums to 229, and it resonated at the time, too. As did the 0 in there.

Near her place, on 23rd street, I ran into a place called "Thomas and Skinner", which manufactured magnetic things, for weapons. Thomas is my last name, so I attached to it being there, right on 23rd street near her place. Also was the fact that she was a stripper. I was into the I-Ching at the time, a little, and it's interpretation of 23 was on my conscious, in some sense. "Stripping" is one name for it. I had special resonance with the I Ching, because for one, the deck of cards with hexagrams that I got, years earlier, my first drawn one was the title image- of "The Traveler", number 56, which is often related with the Fool Tarot card. But even though different, the fact that she stripped played on this "stripping" (breaking apart, fragmentation, and other words describing) name for this, and the factory near by with my name and the name "skinner", which took it down a level, seemingly. Or up one. Depending on how one looked at it. I was deep in it.

I had told her about a pattern that I could find to perceive from the names of exes, Marilyn, Alisha, Sara, Katie. Those names in full had 23 syllables total. Those first names as I spoke them had an average sum of 23, where Alisha shared that average as a sum, and she shared my mother's maiden name- Finch. Mask is another name for the name Thomas- my last name. Another sum (non-reduced at all) for the names above is 227. Relating closely with my mother, such as how the average is 23 and Alisha shares that sum and has my mother's maiden name, my mother's birthday is 2/27. 22/7 Can be an approximation of Pi. If all four had taken my last name a sum of the four names, together, could be 314 (somewhat reduced form, but it pops up from one of two numbers in this way of doing things). 22/7 or July 22nd can be the 203rd day of year.

I told her about this stuff, mainly that they formed this. So this was on my mind, and of "wearing a mask", and this "skinner"... and I felt like I was being skinned, in a sense (spiritual? emotional?). I felt like a snake, and this was my skin. I remember the image of a snake shedding skin.

She wasn't on facebook when I met her. When she got on, 184 could be said to be at the beginning of her user id, and 23 could be said to be found at the end, along with of course other numbers, which I won't mention. The one picture she has displayed that shows numbers shows the number 23 twice, the number 22 and the number 24, for a total of 92, and an average of 23. It is a collage she made of magazine images. "NailPro" the name of the magazine. There are images with camouflage painted onto nails-- rosettes. And other things on other images.

I associated her with being crucified, in a sense. And of these things as nails. I have felt, with fate as it seems to be, sometimes, nailed in, fastened, tied. Unmoving, frozen.

1123

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Person messages me and tells me if I made a thread now it would be thread 1123 in Philosophy and Spirituality. I said I was even more interested now in what the next thread would be. When it was posted much later this day/the next day, the time stamp reads 23:00 (to me).

 

[alasdairm]

Person messages me and tells me if I made a thread now it would be thread 1123 in Philosophy and Spirituality.

there are currently 929 threads in the p&s forum so that's incorrect. yet again, when you have to embellish and fabricate to make this stuff fit, it's even more meaningless.

fwiw, the digits 2 and 3 do not appear in 929 nor is 23 a factor of 929

what 23, you seem to be more interested in just using p&s as a host for your streams of consciousness and as a source of validation that you are correct. you don't seem very open to discussing alternate perspectives. perhaps a blog would be a better place for your posts?

alasdair

 

[What 23]

Ah really? Then the number displayed is wrong, or saying it another way. I'm not "embellishing" here. Not sure how you get that notion. I viewed on a page on Bluelight, over what was told to me, and it says 1123 threads. I know though that many have been deleted over time though. Is 1123 the total including those that have been deleted? But 929 is what remain?

I will post a screen cap of where I'm getting that number. I do not wish to embellish. I value authenticity. When storytelling, however, sometimes it might want to occur. I do try to fight it off, though. But I did mention that sometimes I mention numbers that pop out at me, and sometimes I dig for more, and discard some that mean "nothing" to me, or simply don't mention because I don't have a base to talk about them. It doesn't mean something can't be drawn from them though, and I admit that, too. But with the numbers, and 23, it is often right there on the surface, just like, for instance, on your profile as being the only number in your section of ways to contact you, and the only number you wrote, there in there. And here you are. This is the way it goes. I may dig. I may choose some. I may cherry pick the numbers, that to me could look like cherries, or bunches of them, and together.

A reason I post here is because I'd rather not let this thread die, for one. Would it be better to have a "post your stories about synchronicity, pre-cognition, etc"- thread? Would I get attacked there?

I have not heard many "alternate" ideas, that I can't work around or with. I'm a lot more open if they aren't so fucking "this is the way it is and this is the way it is not"... And your arguments, or attempts to argue, have been at times laughable, and missing things (and not minding context) entirely.

Descriptions of synchronicity can get rather involved. Some won't get it. Or read it with an open mind. And they will call it "streaming". It doesn't mean you have to have some fucking argument, as you seem to, with everything, picking out any technicality you can hang things up on. Clearly I checked again and it does say P&S has (has had? By some gauge? I understand... But enlighten me... Don't just jump at every chance to make me look bad) 1123 threads and it was 1122 before it hit 1123 where to me it was posted at 23:00 so there. It may annoy you, but its the truth.

A way I see it, you are one to not allow any conversation or hear me. I have tried to engage you in many of your claims. Most of my attempts to, seem to fall on deaf ears. So many times I ask you to clarify or elaborate and I present argument which you never meet. Then you come here saying I embellish when I can clearly see 1123. You are a mod.. so you perhaps know that there are actually 929. And that means perhaps some have been deleted. I assumed as much that it could be possible. But Jesus Christ, man, work with me if you actually want to engage.

Aside from the link already up there, here is a screen capture. Please let me know if it is not showing up.

Once again, I am willing to give that there are currently 929 threads. But by some gauge or another, one that displays right on the surface, is right here. Not a big fucking deal to argue. But go on if you must. I'm simply saying, a blue leaf blew- for some attempt at example... and you argue.

God, what an ass I am.

 

[alasdairm]

Then the number displayed is wrong...

q.e.d.



alasdair

 

[What 23]

Then the number displayed is wrong

q.e.d.



alasdair

There you go jumping at any chance you get. Hey, me too :D. Comma, it said after what you quoted. "or displaying it another way"- it continued. You cherry pick, aye?.

But has there been 1123 threads? What is this measurement by? Why does a thread come up at 1123 and not 929?

Any way, it (It did display) displayed it. A guy told me (that it was about to be 1123). Before it displayed 1123, it did display 1122, and before that, 1121, and sew on, down the line. I wanted to wait and see what it was (1123). And it came at 23:00 hours, my time. Not a big deal to argue, but go on...

 

[alasdairm]

^ there's no real point offering an alternative perspective because you don't want a discussion - you want people to tell you you're right...



there are 47,709 posts - how is that number significant?

alasdair

 

[What 23]

I don't really care if they tell me I'm right or not. It would be nice, however, for more to see, or say "hey, haha, huh, uh", perhaps. Instead of try to argue. You say there's no real point in offering "alternative perspective", but I honestly don't remember any valid alternative perspective, that I haven't given credit to, and/or have tried to work with. Please give me an example to back up these claims. Be clear. Be as precise as possible, or go away.

Often times, you bring things up out of context. So how in the hell do I give any weight to that? I mean, you do it a lot.

Did I even say 47709 posts anything? The focus simply started on/by/through a PM sent to me by another member of the forum telling me I should make a thread because it will be thread 1123. I smiled. I said, "I am interested to see what it will be :D", and it came at 23:00. Big fucking deal. Offer me an alternative perspective, oh great judge.

You did offer 929. But this isn't anywhere where I would just notice... I for one did not go looking, to see how many threads. I am not that desperate for validation right now. I say this isn't anywhere where I would just notice, or I doubt where another person on the forum would notice and say "hey", to me, in it's regard! I guess maybe I can know that it is 929 if I do a search? How do I find that out? Really, man? I'm in the infield. You're in left-field.

But to play, I guess, what is 47709... I don't really know. I don't really "know" how 23 is significant, either. Or 11. At least, not so precisely and ultimately.
I could play, though. 47, is another number that some claim to see in everything. It is also in some relation with Jesus, or some with Jesus, describing things around/him, mention 47, and/or 74 (as well, I have heard it come up around Lucifer... Or is that just 74? For Jesus?). The 79th element is labeled as Gold. I live on 79th street. Often times with 0, I don't "see" it. I mean it's there, it adds it's own flavor, but when something is 709 or 203, even though it is not 790 or 230, I still see it as related/close to 23, or 79, even if it is not, technically... Not technically, normally, as numbers are used to measure. But easily, they remind me. And perhaps the 0 "means" something or adds something. Maybe meanings are multiple. The sum of the total of digits, added, might come to 27. 47709 Could also transfer to, or, well, I could plug it in and it might or might not "be" anything, but hey, it's always something, even if dirt... or something. I don't know. Uhh.. 47709 Could be DGGI? But what to do about the 0? Maybe just turn it into an O? Then that would be DGGOI, which could also be 47769, or perhaps 477159 or perhaps 4+7+7+1+5+9 and maybe that is 33? Which could be 2 3s. Whoa. Or was it 4+7+7+15+9? 42?

929 Could also be something. I could play around there, too. 929 from 1123 is 194. 9+14=23. 19+4=23. 1+94=95. 94-1=93. 19-4=15. 94 is a sum of my full name, and at a time or so, "194" has related to myself, in ways, being the house I grew up in, and a number of my name. The "One 94" element of it has also aligned with how I feel alone, sometimes. Like I'm dreaming everything, and nobody else really exists. Not that I believe this scenario, but we're all sort of alone, anyways. And we can't be sure, anyways.

We could also go into "vibrations", of numerology. But I don't know how, really.

Sometimes I could, or I have taken a number like 47709, and I have said that between 4 and 7 there are 3 and between 7 and 7 there are 0 and between 7 and 0 there are 7 and between 0 and 9 there are 9, and have written down from 47709, 3079, and from there I could stop and take a look around, and try something different, or I could keep going, and say between 3 and 0 there are 3 and between 0 and 7 there are 7 and between 7 and 9 there are 3 and I could then move to 373. And from there, I could take a look around, try something different.

because you don't want a discussion - you want people to tell you you're right...

alasdair

I know I'm right, with this. A guy told me 1123 I said cool and it popped up at 23:00 my time. I'm not sure what there is to discuss.

I wonder, though, have you ever, on this forum, had a time, when you were wrong, in a discussion with someone?

Can anyone name one time when alasdair has been found to be, or where he has admitted he was wrong about something? Or does he just avoid any kind of acknowledgement, at all? Instead going on to something else? Desperate to name it? Desperate to call it? Who is the one with the hammer? I have tried to engage you so many times. I have responded with detail as to why I approached something one way, with no acknowledgement from you, with no give. You just find something else, to try to bring against. And not just with me. I have seen it around. And I hate to say, I've been around this site since 2001 (or 2002). You like to be seen as that guy that knows what to say. You assume you're always valid. When I bring up a story about my own life, and how at the top of a mountain I met myself (Pureself), in a sense and 2323 right with me and "Fallen" (a player named joins) when I fall from the sky, and I get the last shot- the game making kill (if you're just now chiming in, or haven't read everything, this might not be complete enough to make sense), you... say it doesn't relate at all? That wow, pureself could be anyone? Yea.. Sure... It could be, and is... And... I am not even arguing that, but given that it was my experience and I was the I- the eye, and I was the one reaching the top at that point and I was at the top, well, yea. But, here you are. Still, for a purpose, I guess.

But I'm not sure how you expect a discussion with how you approach things. You just expect to call me, what was it, "fabricating", which, I have believed I do, literally... Like "I'm God" territory. But not how you mention. And what else??? "Embellishing", because I see it as 1123, you said. I mean, really? How in fuck lizard-ville with spit in my pants and bees and cats and goats yes goats do you expect me to discuss that other than how I have? You say I embellished. I clearly did not, and yet, you never acknowledge.

I am right.

Discuss.

Or, how 'bout my better idea of how a discussion might begin from the "1123" drop down in my earlier post?

NSFW:

Alasdair: "You know, there are actually only 929 threads right now? It says 1123 because..."

, which still, there's no real argument from my perspective, from where it began. You might say there aren't 1123 threads, I could say there have been 1123 threads counted, and I never said that there are 1123 threads (what you argue), I don't think. I am pretty sure- I'm positive I said "thread 1123", which isn't so defined. A minor discussion might be had, from here, perhaps into the nature of 929, or 929 from 1123 being 194, perhaps. I don't know. But saying I'm embellishing, and this and that, is no place to start any discussion, especially in light of what I give.

 

[alasdairm]

Can anyone name one time when alasdair has been found to be, or where he has admitted he was wrong about something?

sure. i can.

how about this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...y-or-Obama?p=10918090&viewfull=1#post10918090
or this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ion-thread?p=10060861&viewfull=1#post10060861
or this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ction-thread?p=9971907&viewfull=1#post9971907
or this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ompa?p=9954411&highlight=apologi*#post9954411
or this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...out-politics?p=9474469&viewfull=1#post9474469
or this: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/516729-2010-NFL-Season?p=9176559&viewfull=1#post9176559

if you could see threads in the staff forums, i could link you to 100 more examples. perhaps you'll just take my word for that? i have never, ever had a problem admitting when i'm wrong and to suggest otherwise is laughable nonsense and demonstrably incorrect.

while i have disagreed with you, i have kept the conversation civil. you're the one swearing at me and, now, slinging personal insults. i think that speaks to the discussion as loudly as anything you're saying.

you're talking about being open to ideas - open-minded if you will. i invite you to practice what you preach?

on your substantive point, give me any number between 1 and 1,000,000 and i'll find a way to relate it to 23 somehow. what does that prove? there are many conclusions but one is pretty obvious (to me): nothing.

on the 1123 issue, you are correct - there are 1123 threads if one chooses to include the archive. here are 929 threads in the p&s forum proper. so, on this issue, we're both right. or both wrong.

alasdair