Synchronicity

[What 23]

But I never sling personal insults. The closest thing I see here, is that "you don't get it" with "fucking" thrown in there, which, you're right, could be left out.

I guess another could be mirroring back the "waste of time" sentiments.

Then, there is also the "annoying" comment. Not that it was a lie. I was annoyed. Still, yea, a problem is my not so good "half" (but its me, not to separate). You are right. I'm better than I have been. Sometimes I gave up. It's a breakdown.

I'm obviously wrong too if I can't communicate, in the way I communicate... If it isn't communicated, it is not communication.

My getting emotional, and more wrong, therefore, is only on me. I concede.

Sorry.

23

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I just heard that 23 victims have been identified from that massive tornado, in Oklahoma City. Regarding alasdair's billboard comment, this could perhaps be related... Though, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he meant, because it doesn't really apply the way I think he was getting at. I am not attaching significance here, with this tornado, to "me". I did not. Hearing 23 was not a lot different here than had I heard 45 or any other count. Perhaps I might (take note, other than how I have here) if they were done identifying and only 23 could be identified. Or, if there were only 23 dead. Then maybe I might think something of it, as I heard it. But this is just a billboard/sign/detail on the way. Not that the metaphor sticks, but just to say, I don't "shit my pants" like has been accused, every time I see 23. For you to assume this does makes it very hard to approach this, with you. I want to say it's my fault... But sometimes I wonder if you are even capable of understanding. Maybe it is just like binary or Chinese is to me, "23" to you. Not that it is impossible to learn.

Just to mention, I don't get hexadecimal easily, at all... Or binary. I actually went to school for it. I felt like an idiot. I would get it for a second but it just seemed tedious at the time.

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But maybe I missed something, about hearing 23. And maybe I always miss something.

It was the first time that I heard anything about it (tornado), in number, officially- precisely. Though, my dad mentioned it to me yesterday, and said "around 50 people were missing".

Still. I didn't find it notable, at first. Then I asked/I challenged myself. Maybe. But maybe in this instance it is some selection bias/confirmation bias. I may have read something and maybe a number like 46 didn't stand out... Even if it itself is 2x23... Or if it was 54. Maybe I just don't remember because it didn't pop like 23, which just happened to be the first official, precise word of a number I heard about it, to be precise. It's possible, but I remember no numbers. I tend not to focus on it, actually, at first, in these things. I don't want to get the facts until the facts are fully known. They would change too much. It wouldn't be the truth, and I value the truth. But, I might have looked, as I said, and I might have not seen anything "interesting", at the time.

And if my dad had said "something like 23" I admit here that might have taken some precedence..

So... My first reaction to hearing 23 in this instance was just about right. But I tried to test either way.

But it was the first statement of a number that wasn't an rough/round estimate, that I recall, and it kind of stuck out, because of having to leave, with this still on my mind.

I'm more or less comfortable with my "crazy" and sometimes I am just letting it play, but I don't appreciate others assigning that as my end "sum" (and trying to call me invalid), and with calling me irrational, stupid/dense (as you imply, not that I don't struggle), psychotic, or what. Thanks.

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As I was struggling with how to respond, and say everything here, as I still am currently... In the sky I saw a tiny bird chasing a larger bird/hawk around. First, I was just a little stunned/in wonder. I had never seen that before. The big bird dwarfed the little one. I wondered, a little beyond that... Am I the big bird, or the little bird? I tried to find relation, as I do. I wondered am I that big bird, running from little birds? But I could also be the tiny bird. I could be chasing around the larger. I could be fighting the majority (and in some sense, the accepted), as a minority (non-accepted). Maybe I'm neither, some here might say (as has been demonstrated). Maybe I'm both. Maybe I'm also neither, and both. Maybe I'm also neither, and the small bird, neither and the big bird The big bird and both.. no wait a minute.

And then just now, I wondered... Was that just a baby bird- a youngling, and it's parent? It didn't look like the same species, and I'm not aware of birds teaching their young that way, but I really don't know.

 

[RobotRipping]

well shit 23, there's no winning this battle. I tried to show you in many ways that numbers only represent a quantity and have no other significance. I gave you many examples of some super interesting numbers that are found in nature and in the universe. I also provided you with the means to make a rational argument for yourself. But then you throw horses at me and then bring the numbers in again when you said it wasn't just about numbers. god damn i give up lol.

rationality = logic, reason. If you aren't being logical about this, then you are being irrational. There is an underlying pattern to words themselves that you can use to find whether an argument is sound or not, though it's not complete, there is truth in it. Look into predicate logic, though i know you won't but perhaps it'll broaden your horizons a bit and you can apply this same idea of 23 to words.

did you go to the school of Binary and Hexidecimal numbering systems? lol i could teach it to you in an hour if you really wanted.

My point was the lower the base of the number system, the more likely you are to see patterns, the higher the base, the less likely you are. Since base 10, decimal only has 10 numbers, they are bound to pop up all the time. If we had a base 123 system then you wouldn't see numbers that 'seem' to correspond to each other. Thus proving, that a number like 23 represents 23 of one thing. you can't just take 253 and say it relates somehow to the number 23, nor can you take a word and give it a correspond decimal value as they represent different things again. The phrase, 'shit my pants' has a sense/reference; if you change that to a number, the phrase loses its sense and reference and has also lost all of its meaning. You cannot just arbitrarily change numbers to suit your beliefs. Alasdair also showed this to you, that by casting a wider net, you're bound to find something and that by stretching logic you can come up with anything, alasdair even replicated your technique and all you said was 'cool' lol you missed the point!

you can certainly report that you see 23 everywhere but if you go and look at a calendar, every month has a 23. It just doesn't mean anything, that's all anyone is trying to say to you. It's not spooky or mystical or anything, it's just the way our number system works. It's not synchronicity, it's at best a case of you seeking out the number 23 and ignoring other numbers. If you want to report that every time you see 23, you shit your pants, and one time you shit your pants but didn't realize it and then saw the number 23 only to then notice the smell and realize that you had shit your pants, then there we have synchronicity.

If every time you see 23 you shit your pants, then it's merely conditioning, you get used to shitting your pants when you see 23 so like Pavlov's dog, you see 23, you shit your pants, or salivate in the dog's case. You may not even have to shit but after a while, you'll see 23 and your body will instinctively prepare a shit for your pants.

 

[What 23]

Alasdair did replicate it but only in a sense, there was no meaning behind things, no theme beyond the numbers. He simply found random numbers. Mine very rarely required a lot of creativity, and the things were already "connected".

You don't get me.

You think because this... (in your experience), it must equal this. That numbers should be viewed according to how you feel they must (and no other way).

For school, I guess I knew my wording may have invited something like that. I went to school for game design. It involved learning these.

This aside, I, for one, still say that 253 can "relate" to 23. Just not in your way, or one used in any practical science. This is, as well, a spirituality forum.

 

[RobotRipping]

yes i figured it involved computers lol

i know you can say 253 relates to 23, but back it up with some logical argument. Not anecdotes or anything, a logical argument. You must employ the powers of rationality!

I can say 254 relates to 23, well all numbers relate in some way though, they are numbers, but what is the significance?

Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance, yet are experienced as occurring together in a meaningful manner.

so how does 23 occur with something else in a meaningful manner to you? when you see 23, what is the meaning? that's the whole point. If you don't know the meaning, then you aren't talking about synchronicity, you are just noticing that 23 is a number that is commonly used. Which is true. But does the number 23 coincide with an event that is unrelated or unlikely to occur? If so, what event is that? what is the meaning of it? what is the significance and is it consistent, can it be replicated and is it universal to all or just to you? Answer those questions, along with a logical argument and you are back on board in making some sense out of this.

Example: people see pictures of a loved one fall off a wall, few days later, that person dies. I've seen many pictures of people fall off walls though and they didn't die. See how easy it is for someone to fall into a trap believing that if a picture falls someone dies? humans are so superstitious because there's so much we don't know.

 

[What 23]

I'm not that superstitious. Or, I try not to be.

I can't tell you what it means, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that it has been around in ways I seem to fail often at describing, people I love... Or feel something strongly with. Not that its a rule either way. But especially recently I notice it around those I have closeness with... Or had closeness with.

For one instance, I have had four girlfriends that I can find significant. Their names together can spell "mask" as an acronym, which (mask) I have felt to mean some things (heh, the song playing right now, "where ya going with the mask I found?").

So they spell this, or can. I really don't want to go so deeply into it but the "mask" relates.

Their names numerologically relate to 23, and are also weighted to in a sense the one that I had the strongest feelings of all for, who had the average sum for her name of the four, which was 23. This one had my moms maiden name. I asked her to marry me once, or expressed desire. But I let her go. She now has a 23 sum last name. Sometimes the fact that she married a guy whose name sounds like "Code" has jumped, but we can go insane. I felt before I numbered, but I also felt something with the number, in ways I would see it, before directly connecting it to her.

All (full) names together had 23 syllables, together. I was "into" "2012" stuff in some timing with it all, and the last one (relationship) ended 2300 days from that date. A watch she gave me me happened to stop on 23 seconds. From the date she gave me the watch, a parallel amount of time would pass until I would meet the next girl I'd experience feeling for, parallel to my birth from the beginning of the year (161 weeks for 161 days), to say that when she gave me this watch was the beginning of a "year". From the next girl, who resonated with my mother to me, before I connected it this way, 203 weeks exist until 12/21/2012. This corresponds or seemed parallel to the amount of time from my birth to the end of a year, at 203 days.

Nothing happened on 12/21/2012 that was way out of line.. I was just in the same place at midnight on 21 and 22... which was a little odd, but not anything that I care to put a ton of weight on. It did lead to the discovery of a table rock formation called "Jug Rock" though. Largest this side of Mississippi. Most are out west. Pretty neat anyways. Could be something.

There is some.

 

[alasdairm]

Alasdair did replicate it but only in a sense, there was no meaning behind things, no theme beyond the numbers. He simply found random numbers. Mine very rarely required a lot of creativity, and the things were already "connected". There was a pattern to the finding of the number itself.

the megamegairony in these statements is totally lost on you...

when you see 23 everywhere, even in cases where you have to fudge the numbers to fit, or apply rules to parts of the thing and not the whole thing so it can be shoehorned into a box, there's some mystical, other-wordly connection at play.

when i demonstrate the same with 24, it's meaningless.

"there are none so blind as those who will not see"? i think so.

alasdair

 

[What 23]

I could say the same about you. "Will not see".

The rules stick on individual layers.

If it is lost on me, help me find it. So far you aren't doing it.

I'm not sure if you meant to write the largest paragraph the way that it ended up... you said there is a mystical connection, which is highly unlike you... unless being sarcastic. Did you mean there is not a mystical connection at play (if, going by what you assume, that I am always shoehorning)?

I guess I can see how you might think it is ironic (because you pulled it from random it should be easy to do anywhere). I still don't think it must apply the same, however. I had been seeing the number and didn't know why. I was dating the one who had the name that had an easy sum of 23. She was the average of what would be four. She had my moms maiden name (rare name). She was server 23. Yadayada. One girl I expressed real desire to marry. Let go. Now has sum of 23 for last name. She meant something before the number came to conscious. But with her I. Time, for some reason, I just began to notice it all over the place... Before I paid much attention to numbers, at all.

You might say no relation. I say, maybe. At the very least maybe.

So... Let me ask you (anyone) this, are religions or other traditions in spirituality, stupid dense Etc., for holding certain numbers to importance?

 

[alasdairm]

I could say the same about you. "Will not see".

there is a difference between you and me.

i accept that your perspective could be what's actually happening. if i have not made that clear, let me distill it for you. these numbers your seeing could absolutely be linked in some mystical manner and, further, the universe could be trying to send you a message with these synchronous events and numeric patterns. that is absolutely a possibility, to me.

on the other hand, there's another explanation. there's absolutely nothing mysterious at play here. the patterns your seeing are random and are to be expected when there are such huge numbers at play in the universe generally. further, these special connections are as likely to be seen if you focus on the number 11 or 16 or 18 or 24 so the fact that they occur when you focus on 23 is far from special - it's actually quite unremarkable.

you say this is not possible. it just can't be. there has to be something more special going on.

i'm open to the idea that you are right and, frankly, i don't really care who's right or wrong. you are not open to the idea that i am right. indeed, you attacked me personally and tried to demonstrate that i'm somehow incapable of admitting when i'm wrong even though a cursory search through my posts on bluelight shows you're demonstrably wrong there...

I'm not sure if you meant to write the largest paragraph the way that it ended up... you said there is a mystical connection, which is highly unlike you... unless being sarcastic. Did you mean there is not a mystical connection at play (if, going by what you assume, that I am always shoehorning)?

perhaps you need to reread what i wrote?

schematically: when you...there's some mystical, other-worldly connection at play. when i...it's meaningless.

i was demonstrating (not very clearly it appears) the double standard you seem to be applying.

I was dating the one who had the name that had an easy sum of 23.

what was the name and how does it sum to 23?

alasdair

 

[alasdairm]

If it is lost on me, help me find it. So far you aren't doing it.

another double standard. when i can't see, it's my fault. when you can't see, it's my fault...



alasdair

 

[What 23]

Thanks for clarifying that it could be what I say

That hadn't been clear.

Her name is Alisha. One for one, her name can sum to 23 where A=1, and L=3, I=9, S=1, H=8, and A=1.

As for fault, you missed after you said it was all your fault (sarcastically), and my other half's, and Robot's, but not mine, I said if I didn't communicate it, if it wasn't communicated, I didn't communicate it. That I was wrong, at least in some sense.

As for if its possible that I'm wrong and that there is nothing behind it, that challenges me always. I just don't play on that side, in (this) public. On "my side" that I do, there has just been a lot of ... "weight". But I do, every day, doubt.

Not that this needs to mean anything, but the fact that my last name is Thomas and of those around Jesus, Thomas was the doubter, this has resonated with how much I doubt, to me. I've related. But like I said, there is a lot of weight (love, and the way things just fell), supporting that something else is there. Even if not what I think.

23 to me has been like something kind of tangible, supporting love, and the connections, because its difficult for me to accept what love is... I guess.

Sorry about challenging you to bring to light when you have been wrong. To be honest I maintain respect throughout for you even if it can't (or sometimes hasn't) be seen. But it does seem that you present argument a lot, and might be right a lot, at least in senses... Or at least sound enough to give attention to. I've noticed this and its a reason I maintain respect, but I guess I see a disconnection often, or perceive one (or distance), that seems to allow you to be right, a lot. There is nothing wrong with it, but at the time, being frustrated, I wished you would step out of it (the mode I perceive you to often be in). I do apologize. I may not have made sense with this paragraph.

Here, you did, as I perceived, "step out of it", with your clarification that something could be going on. Before, I took you as polarized. Again, thanks for clarifying.

But, I didn't embellish 1123. And it wasn't shoehorned.

But stepping back, into doubt, I have considered the possibility that no matter how aligned and related something might be, or seem to be, in support of something, there's still a chance that it is all "just coincidence", and chance (I don't know. Sometimes I see chance as impossible). Whatever it is could be said to be bound to occur. One thing that gives me faith, however, is certain "pre-cognitive" events... Like for one, hearing a voice say "Alicia Keys!" Repeatedly the days/weeks leading up to for the first time hearing from Alisha in 9 months. And it was to the wrong person(?), me, asking if I had the corporate key.. That it was real important (Alisha. Key.). Last message from her occurred at 2:33. The rarity and precision of the occurrence is one of the things that keeps my faith often.

Not to go on and on about it, but an allergic condition began when I was seeing her. Her being an average of "m.a.s.k."- her name, goes with this. Extremely painful. My face/jaw/mouth/ear. Pretty bad food allergies. I in a sense have had to wear a mask. It resonates. It began at her, the "average". And after this last message/contact, with her, it got about 23 (jk, can't quantify) times worse within a month. I told her she was sending these messages to the wrong person. I intended for it to end/our contact... To let her go. And it happened. I haven't spoken to her since. I went from tolerating most food to tolerating not much of anything, food or environmental, within that month after last talking. To be clear, I had no idea I had food allergies, a brunt of which began with her, until around 7 years after the fact of her, of being with her. "Mask" fit. And food allergies were one of the ways mask fit. With the chronic facial pain and ugliness I felt. ... It just hit. It fit. Maybe its nothing... but the way it happened and kept happening, fit. The pain I did go through and the finding of this "pattern", anyone should be able to see why I might attach to it, if they could feel what I felt for those years. Why I might try to justify/ find some reason or meaning. Not to say it exists. I have a hard time believing any of it is for anything that it seems to be, actually. I still don't trust it. It wears the mask.(?)

I don't know.

 

[RobotRipping]

man the universe is the result of a bunch of insanely impossible coincidences, think of it that way, and yeah you could definitely be right. There's some underlying pattern to what seems like chaos. It's ordered chaos, in such an improbable way that somehow life formed here on earth. The only other possibility is that there are infinite universes, in which case, the odds are tipped in favor of our universe being formed and life being found. Now i don't think of it like that, there's definitely something else going on, intuitively i feel that. The brane plates idea (look it up if you want) is by far my more preferred theory for the generation of our universe.

I can explain it but there's no need. Basically my point is that the improbability of our universe being formed and in such a way that it supports life (universal constants must be such that life can form) either says that there's intelligent design or simply that the universe is random (one of infinite universes) , chaotic, the big bang happened, before the big bang, these rippling/plasticity like plates hit each other causing the big bang, before those plates, well there was no before, because the big bang also created time and space but these brane plates, where do they exist? There's not even a necessity to bring the idea of brane plates in but the energy that started as an infinitesimally small point must have come from somewhere, or maybe it's just there and doesn't make any sense (to me anyway lol).

Shit blows my mind. If it's the case that there is intelligent design, either by the DMT elves, Salvia fairy or God, then there may very well be a link between symbols, numbers and life itself. Also communication with the DMT elves or God would suddenly become plausible. Psychic powers could also be explained, as well as cosmic consciousness and other spiritual new age ideas everyone shits on.

I'm not that superstitious. Or, I try not to be.

I can't tell you what it means, the only thing I can tell you for sure is that it has been around in ways I seem to fail often at describing, people I love... Or feel something strongly with. Not that its a rule either way. But especially recently I notice it around those I have closeness with... Or had closeness with.

For one instance, I have had four girlfriends that I can find significant. Their names together can spell "mask" as an acronym, which (mask) I have felt to mean some things (heh, the song playing right now, "where ya going with the mask I found?").

So they spell this, or can. I really don't want to go so deeply into it but the "mask" relates.

Their names numerologically relate to 23, and are also weighted to in a sense the one that I had the strongest feelings of all for, who had the average sum for her name of the four, which was 23. This one had my moms maiden name. I asked her to marry me once, or expressed desire. But I let her go. She now has a 23 sum last name. Sometimes the fact that she married a guy whose name sounds like "Code" has jumped, but we can go insane. I felt before I numbered, but I also felt something with the number, in ways I would see it, before directly connecting it to her.

All (full) names together had 23 syllables, together. I was "into" "2012" stuff in some timing with it all, and the last one (relationship) ended 2300 days from that date. A watch she gave me me happened to stop on 23 seconds. From the date she gave me the watch, a parallel amount of time would pass until I would meet the next girl I'd experience feeling for, parallel to my birth from the beginning of the year (161 weeks for 161 days), to say that when she gave me this watch was the beginning of a "year". From the next girl, who resonated with my mother to me, before I connected it this way, 203 weeks exist until 12/21/2012. This corresponds or seemed parallel to the amount of time from my birth to the end of a year, at 203 days.

Nothing happened on 12/21/2012 that was way out of line.. I was just in the same place at midnight on 21 and 22... which was a little odd, but not anything that I care to put a ton of weight on. It did lead to the discovery of a table rock formation called "Jug Rock" though. Largest this side of Mississippi. Most are out west. Pretty neat anyways. Could be something.

There is some.

okay this is a bit better, though those are anecdotes again. You need to find the underlying pattern here.

So in essence you are saying that the number 23 corresponds with either love/closeness/intimacy. So whenever you experience these emotions, you can easily derive 23 from either the person's name, birth date, something they gave you, or what have you. So we have 2 unrelated events occuring at the same time that aren't causally related but yet have meaning. That is the meaning you are looking for. That makes it synchronicity.

Now to gain evidence, you need to replicate this over and over again using the scientific method and then find the formula/pattern. If you could achieve this, it would be astonishing to me but i do think it's possible. The formula/pattern may even come to you intuitively. Next step is to find other numbers and repeat the process. Numbers are symbols and while they lack meaning, it doesn't necessarily mean they cannot correspond to your life, emotions or relationships. You just need to gather some evidence, it'll be qualitative evidence and your argument would have to be from induction unless you can find a formula/pattern with the numbers that can be described quantitatively, from there you can argue from deduction.

There will however still be criticism as deduction/induction aren't necessarily (tho we learn they are) distinct from each other, nor qualitative/quantitative, they relate to each other in some way, like objective/subjective or analytic/synthetic. If you can figure all of this out, i'll give you the nobel prize.

so a simple test, find another connection with a person, when it becomes loving/intimate/close see if you can easily derive 23 from something they did for you, gave to you, in their name, or birth date, license plate number. If you aren't stretching logic and the resulting number you find does actually relate to 23 in an obvious way, then keep looking, otherwise, you are likely wrong (not necessarily but the odds aren't in your favour for sure, then again life on earth in this universe would have those same kind of odds against it).

Sorry this was so long, god damn d-amp, i can spend hours going on about this shit, please correct me if i make absolutely no sense lol or just call me the speed poster.

 

[alasdairm]

a lot of people think it's amazing when they meet somebody in a social setting who has the same birthday they do, especially in a smaller group. it can seem like something quite special is at play. however, when you examine the numbers involved, it's actually very mundane. see: birthday problem

The birthday problem asks whether any of the people in a given group has a birthday matching any of the others — not one in particular. (See "Same birthday as you" below for an analysis of this much less surprising alternative problem.)

In the example given earlier, a list of 23 people, comparing the birthday of the first person on the list to the others allows 22 chances for a matching birthday, the second person on the list to the others allows 21 chances for a matching birthday, third person has 20 chances, and so on. Hence total chances are: 22+21+20+....+1 = 253, so comparing every person to all of the others allows 253 distinct chances (combinations): in a group of 23 people there are...253 pairs.

Presuming all birthdays are equally probable,[2] the probability of a given birthday for a person chosen from the entire population at random is 1/365 (ignoring Leap Day, February 29). Although the pairings in a group of 23 people are not statistically equivalent to 253 pairs chosen independently, the birthday paradox becomes less surprising if a group is thought of in terms of the number of possible pairs, rather than as the number of individuals.

when you add in concepts like confirmation bias, it reinforces the argument that something which seems seems so unlikely (which leads people to believe there's something other than chance at play) is actually very much more likely than they can - or want to - believe.

related reading:

Numerology Megathread
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Does anyone find this strange?

you should read that last thread in particular, what 23. i think you and 'ambiguity' have a lot in common...

alasdair

 

[What 23]

you should read that last thread in particular, what 23. i think you and 'ambiguity' have a lot in common...

because he posted at xx:23?

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i chose not to say 02:23 because it could be 10:23 somewhere else. but no matter where, it would read as xx:23.

there may very well be a link between symbols, numbers and life itself.

sometimes i don't see that there's really any other way.


i think that there might be "strings", perhaps. i just got this thought. the images i get, at times, might be there for a reason, for me to experience them. the feelings that i am living certain images, with certain meanings, and experiences, are some of at least some more, that are possible, to read. it doesn't mean they don't exist, or do, really. i feel we can find relation with many of the stories, throughout time, and meanings- archetype experiences, and personality traits, because meaning is as well as being personal, socially constructed, or apprehended, shared... I don't know.

TWENTY NINE can be written out with exactly 29 toothpicks.

nsfw for story

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i was driving home from my route the other night, and had the thought to stop along the way, to visit a strip club. it was more a passing thought, if anything, as i have never gone to one alone, and don't care enough to go spend money like that. but the thought, because the club in my thoughts was where a girl- donna, used to work, she entered my mind. she's rather strong, in my mind, sometimes.

so i was driving along, and i get near this exit where i would have to take, to go to this club, and a car comes up on my left, and merges into my lane in front of me, essentially cutting me off, in a way, now slowing down, causing me to have to slow. this is out of the ordinary, for my driving flow that night. of course i'd have to stop, or slow, but it was normal pattern. this fellow came from out of nowhere, and wasn't paying attention, or something. he stood out, and it occurring right at that exit, where i would have had to take, where something had been on my mind, beyond it, went with it.

the number 23 was present, as i saw it as the sum of the numbers 887, which were on his plate, though i didn't make anything of it, really, until he had passed, merged, caused me to slow and maneuver away, to avoid hitting him, and to preserve momentum. he was on his smart phone, which was probably why he was driving erratically. 887 is also not 23, just if you sum... but i could also say it was around her, as well. the numbers i have noticed involved with thinking about her, are 23, 159, 96, 108, 184, 85, 888, 880, 887, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 (haha), 0. man, i've got it bad. right. and 113, and 275. now 128, i guess, and 326. 223. 230. 203. not that they're all the same. love, like. red. sad. mad. happy. lovely. blue. green. yellow. orange.

the strip club is located at 7916 pendleton pike. back round her in time, when we met and things, and with 23 already being something, to me, and 7+9+1+6 totaling 23 (and on 23rd street not two blocks from her house my name is on a building- a factory, with another name that meant/means/could mean things (but maybe not in some ways), skinner, thomas and skinner), was something added. and met on 23. and names, possibly (depending on how you want to calculate names, but 23 repeats anyways, i have found, not that another won't, but i haven't seen it like it).

 

[alasdairm]

because he posted at xx:23?

he had 15 other posts in that thread posted at:

16:19
20:00
20:20
00:04
10:27
19:10
03:42
09:22
09:35
12:19
00:37
09:21
19:32
22:25
12:25

but yet you choose not to mention any of these posts? how odd.

93.75% of his posts don't fit your mystical pattern but you just ignore those and choose to highlight the solitary post (representing only 6.25% of his posts in that thread) which makes your case.

weaksauce.

alasdair

 

[What 23]

First post. Thread starter. And was my humor completely lost (pardon me if i didn't get yours, through text)?

I didn't bother to mess with the other numbers. The way I see it/have seen it, anything can be played with. One could never move... So I glanced, and easily, 23 indisputably was seen.

BTW... My way took me one second. Your way took many more.
...

But thank you... I may play with those later. Maybe it will be 78793.


Edit: What would be, perhaps, more relevant for you to bring up (at least for a first step), would be the last post, or last post (and time) that he did. Do you think that I would have posted what I did if just one post of the many had this 23, had it not been the beginning? No. I don't pay that much attention. Not usually anyways. And I wouldn't find it entirely relevant (within, just anywhere) unless it within itself somehow referenced it, or something, another way. But how it landed, it was on 23. I thought it was funny that you said especially that thread, as well, considering that.

Another example of relevance. In the recent movie Star Trek, I could say that there might be many other numbers possible, and possibly derived creatively by counting number of eyes, people, ears, fingers, legs, wieners (well, people, and vaginas)... You could say to my sighting of 23 in this film, "but there are many other numbers. 99% of them are not 23, but you chose to settle on 23... how odd... mystical sausages.", but the fact remains, 23 is relevant because it was the first numbers to be spoken (as 2 and 3 in a sequence, which turned into 23 as recognized as coordinates) by the adversary- Khan. It is also relevant because the 23rd wire was cut when they were investigating this new, classified as-to-what-it-is torpedo, trying to disarm it, or open it, when it activated/armed (with the doctor's arm trapped inside). The coordinates did relate to this torpedo, somehow, but I forget exactly how. Kinda want to see it again... but anyways, wire 23 was cut. it started to count down, they stopped it, and there was a human body revealed inside (Khan's buddy).

it doesn't matter what it means, to my point... the point is, there were possibly many other numbers, and there are always many other numbers, but like 23 was the beginning of the thread (easily) that you pointed me to, like the 23 in Star Trek (easy), like the lane they bowl in in The Big LeBowski (easy)... like.


the following has quoted text of what I am responding to, and further exploration.

NSFW:

he had 15 other posts in that thread posted at:

16:19
20:00
20:20
00:04
10:27
19:10
03:42
09:22
09:35
12:19
00:37
09:21
19:32
22:25
12:25

but yet you choose not to mention any of these posts? how odd.

93.75% of his posts don't fit your mystical pattern but you just ignore those and choose to highlight the solitary post (representing only 6.25% of his posts in that thread) which makes your case.

weaksauce.

alasdair

the total of the numbers on the right-hand side (as i don't mess with the left, right now, because they change from place to place/time zones, and the right ones don't) could be seen as 338. 338 divided by 15 is 22.53, which if i were a dick, could say could round to 23... and including his first post, adding another 23 to make 361, the average by 16 would be 22.56.

not that it's 23, exactly (but it's very close, for a whole number).

but neither are all of the other characters in Lost (23), but the guy who sort of begins it, and ends it, is, as Jacob has numbered them. Jack is 23. Whatever that is. I think at the beginning, he sees the fuselage flying over-top, but i don't remember, and at the end he sees a plane flying. The thread you pointed to didn't begin and end with 23, but it, and certain attention to the thread again, came about in discussion of it (23).

I could also weigh in the numbers you wrote, just to go with it- not that I'd be hunting 23, exactly. I could also weigh in the way i see it, and where the last post of the thread is at 21:12, which could be interesting to perhaps some numerologist/numberer.

Also, going back to the average of 22.56 minutes, considering the fact that many of the minutes posted on also included seconds, which aren't included, the average is much closer to 23, although it can't be calculated as the information isn't there. Even if one was 16 minutes and 30 seconds it would still up the average... Of course. By the end its possible we have 22.8 or 22.9 as the average minute per hour over the course that ambiguity posted.

Maybe possible to be a little over, too. Not sure how far. Possible it could round to 24. I dont know.

Randomly choosing how seconds might fall, I'm often coming to right at 23-ish. Just past.

Even if I plug it all in as "xx.9" it fails to round to anything but 23.

and another of/in response to quoted numbers/letters. another observation.

NSFW:

he had 15 other posts in that thread posted at:

16:19
20:00
20:20
00:04
10:27
19:10
03:42
09:22
09:35
12:19
00:37
09:21
19:32
22:25
12:25

but yet you choose not to mention any of these posts? how odd.

93.75% of his posts don't fit your mystical pattern but you just ignore those and choose to highlight the solitary post (representing only 6.25% of his posts in that thread) which makes your case.

weaksauce.

alasdair

You also failed to mention the first post- the thread starter, here. Why shouldn't you too, cover it all? In your time zone (16, 20, 00, 10, 19...), as you mention the numbers in, the first post came at 23:23, but yet, you choose not to mention this post? how odd. Correct me if I'm wrong, about the time.

If I'm right...

NSFW:

ambiguity's posts, as their times would be, subject to your vantage, are...

23:23
16:19
20:00
20:20
00:04
10:27
19:10
03:42
09:22
09:35
12:19
00:37
09:21
19:32
22:25
12:25

NSFW:

23 is also the highest in/of the hours. with it is also another 23. the post is the only one to have a time that reads as the same number for minutes and hours, of his.

My first try with the left of the split denoting hours, down, comes to 203.

But of course, unlike 361-ish, 203 does not divide by 16 into anything 23, that I know of.

Testing.

Closer to 13. 12.6875.

thank you.



numbers and synchronicity: The Police - Synchronicity

NSFW:

The track Synchronicity I, on the album Synchronicity, by The Police, is 3:23 minutes long. this is 203 seconds.

"Godlyz Back"

NSFW:

This continues from my writing above. I went from working on this post to playing Halo. The first game I played, I lost. My team lost. The top scorer, who was on the opposing team, was a guy named "Godlyz Back". He scored 23 kills.

After the game, he sent me a game/party invite to team up. i accept one of these around once a month, or so. i usually don't want to commit.

Our first game playing as a team, we averaged 230 points, together. We each got 15 kills, and each 12 deaths. He however had 9 kill assists, and I had 4, which contributed to his 240 points, over my 220.

We played a few more games, but I don't remember much about any numbers. Perhaps. Maybe I'm just an idiot, and there actually is one big pattern out there, and some of these things are just the beginning. But I have also been insane. There is a pattern, but it can be interpreted as so many things, and you can fall into rivers that might take you places you weren't really "meant" to go, but one could argue that, easily.

Slept.

Today, I began playing at 6:23 P.M (18:23)... I decided to review one match because I made a couple of cool kills. The one that sparked my review was- I thought it was a mid-air assassination, jumping down from above. I had already touched ground, though. In review, I saw that his life ended at 10:23 on the game clock, where at that time, precisely, his neck snapped.

Another (unique) kill that I decided to record occurred at precisely 7:23 on the game clock. It involved my fleeing while driving a Warthog (vehicle), alone, from another Warthog with a full, 3-player crew.

I led them into a tunnel, jumped out of my hog, putting it between them and me, and tossed two grenades in that direction. They had proceeded to crash into my hog, which stopped them. At precisely 7:23, my grenades detonated, exploding both vehicles, and all three of my pursuers. Then I did a little dance in front of a guy on my team who witnessed it, to add humor/celebrate.

Those two kill-events stuck out as the most satisfying, prior to review, upon game's finish. The only that stuck out. The only ones I bothered to look at.

Some other things happened. I kind of forget, or omit. And perhaps didn't notice, or look.

Last Surgery

NSFW:

Last number I heard before they fully knocked me out was 23, as some measurement.

 

[What 23]

Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name was "Moon". He piloted the lunar lander on the first mission to the moon (Apollo 11).

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Today, I was going to go see a psychic. Second time I've went to one. The guy I planned to see really impressed me, before.
I didn't know if I should get cash, or just try to use my credit card at this place, but I remembered he liked cash. I went in the Marsh parking lot across the street from the place where the psychic was at, and drove around in circles, as Madonna's "Material Girl" was playing, trying to make my decision... cash or credit. I chose to be easy on the guy, and decided to get cash. With this decision, and my stopping driving around in circles (in indecision), the song changed to Billy Idol's "Mony Mony" ("Here she comes now sayin' Mony Mony"), and I (thought I) might be hearing "Money Money", as I drove up to the ATM.

I was going to ask the guy what I should do about a girl named Donna. I brought a stone she gave me. He had something immediately to say, though, after his centering, and prayer, before I showed him or said the reason for my coming. His first image was of a snowman. He said that it seemed that I was the bottom sphere. I was the foundation. And in the end, he basically told me that I don't need to see mediums, because I am already on some level-- That I am spiritually grounded, and have my own connections. Still, he was insightful before, and maybe now.

I decided to put my hands on the table, listening, and simultaneous with my hands making contact with the table the timer he had set earlier went off. He continued talking, however. But this was (perhaps again) when he said his guides, that were speaking with my guides, were telling me that it's up to me/that he can't, or nobody can really help me anymore, it seemed.

When I did tell him about Donna, in that time, he locked up, and didn't really know what to say, other than he knew the feeling, and "it was in my hands". My telling of this isn't linear.

I noticed on a tapestry that was on the table, that a crescent moon shape/symbol was nearest to me, among other shapes/symbols. There were circles, with shapes in them, around another circle, and this one was at me. I didn't think much of it at the time.

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I didn't mean for this all to be about the moon, when I wrote it. In fact, I just wanted to add that bit about Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name being Moon, to this thread. But the girl I went to see the medium about, as well, was born on the day of a new moon, and on that day was an eclipse (annular), that was first reported to have been seen in a town called Sunshine.

 

[alasdairm]

Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name was "Moon". He piloted the lunar lander on the first mission to the moon (Apollo 11).

surely the more interesting fact about apollo 11 is that it carried neil armstrong who was the first man on the moon.

neil armstrong's mother's maiden name was? wait for it. wait for it, engel. oh wait, that's not a coincidence like the other one so no point mentioning it, eh?



alasdair

 

[What 23]

I would say that that is at the very least equally as interesting, on its own. Engel means "angel" in German.

I mentioned to the medium yesterday, about the girl whose stone I brought, that she was the person to make me take the possibility of angels seriously, in a certain way, to pay attention, and that the girl I met directly before her was named Michelle, and the girl directly after, was Gabrielle.

Thanks.

 

[rickolasnice]

"You only see what your eyes want to see"

Madonna.

Seriously.. My birthday is 11/11.. There have been times where it feels like i would check the time and at least once a day it will read 11:11.. my mind ignores the 100s of other times I checked it because it holds no significance (not that 11:11 does, either)..

It's the same with everyone who believes coincidences are "something more".. The more you look for them (or it) the more you will find it.. Ignoring every time it hasn't been there.

 

[alasdairm]

^ indeed.

alasdair