Stimulants Switching to Dexedrine Spansules?

[pharma-sutra]

Missing that nostalgic "extra push" that Adderall Xr gives, but definitely not missing the pronounced peripheral effects (anxiogenic effects, vasoconstriction, mood-swings, etc). I am aware of the equivalency ratio in adderall for d-amp sulfate to dexedrine is approx. 3.75 : 5, so sometimes dosage goes up to as much as 20mg dexedrine spansule (sometimes titrating with 5mg IRs). Whereas previously, 20mg of Adderall XR would suffice.

However, the experience is still lacking in the hyper-focus aspect of Adderall that makes it such a great utilitarian stimulant. I've read many ideas and cocktails people try to make their script more similar to an adderall experience. But what I am seeking for is merely therapeutic (ADD) and utility tool and not recreational purposes, thus I want a combination (either with post/pre loading with supplements or cocktail with other substances) that has the least amount of side effects in comparison to Adderall.

IME, dexedrine has also been the best of all ADD medications and probably on the top three of favorite stims, but sometimes it can be too calming and euphoric for me to be as productive. I've tried both Concerta (overall shitty, left with migraines that persists throughout the day), and ritalin (too short-acting, but very good short sessions and getting mass amount of work done in a short period of time), before switched to adderall.

Would stacking caffeine with the spansules (tea, coffee, etc) be a good alternative? I've read it might increase propensity of neurotoxicity though. Also, why do people suggesting using chelated magnesium (as opposed to other types of magnesium) to supplement amps? And should it be only for post-experience, along with l-tyrosine, vita C, etc? I know that magnesium is used in general as pre-load supp to minimize bruxism and jaw-clenching. I know it's alot of questions at once, but any input is much appreciated. thanks BL community

 

[Crashing]

Only suggestion i have specifically for what you're describing is upping your dosage. I think that would be a safer alternative to adding caffeine honestly.

Edit - Perhaps adding piracetam would be a better option.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

I would try as much as possible not to up your dose; the negative effects will only come back in a short period of time and worse if you do this. Its good that you're not looking to get high. If you're going to use caffeine at least use green tea - it has a calming agent in it that reduces the toxicity and stimulation of amphetamine (most say green tea by itself is calming, and for good reason) while being a nootropic in its own right.

The best thing to do is talk to your doctor. He might switch you to dextro-amphetamine, but this is purely speculation. Chelated magnesium is better absorbed than all other forms of magnesium.

 

[pharma-sutra]

The best thing to do is talk to your doctor. He might switch you to dextro-amphetamine, but this is purely speculation. Chelated magnesium is better absorbed than all other forms of magnesium.

Gotcha, but what do you mean about being switched to d-amp? Already been switched haha.

And about the green tea, that is exactly what I have been using. All that rave about antioxidants and what have you haha. Pick out the ones with medium-caffeine content, and usually done in either two ways: keep it seeped for a while, and down a whole mug of green tea. (gives that extra push during onset) OR sipped throughout second half of experience (which extends duration and cushions the comedown). It is my go-to choice.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Oh ok.

Anti-oxidants help but what I was referring to is L-Theanine.

 

[tricomb]

Chelated Magnesium is absorbed much better than other forums of magnesium, it's one of the most bioavailable forms of it you can buy.

Also, IIRC, the Chelated Mg is less likely to disrupt your GI. I really like chelated magnesium because it seems to make amphetamines act smoother.

We can't speculate about what prescriptions you want to switch to, we aren't doctors.

Check this thread out... http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...rotoxicity-and-Tolerance-Reduction-Prevention

Like other supplements, there is stuff you should be taking every day, not just when you take amphetamines. I take magnesium every day with all of my other supplements and vitamins, I only occasionally take prescribed amphetamines.

 

[pharma-sutra]

Only suggestion i have specifically for what you're describing is upping your dosage. I think that would be a safer alternative to adding caffeine honestly.

Edit - Perhaps adding piracetam would be a better option.

I gotta look into this one.

 

[pharma-sutra]

Will adderall IR 5mg used for titration in addition to the spansules be a much more feasible idea?

Chelated Magnesium is absorbed much better than other forums of magnesium, it's one of the most bioavailable forms of it you can buy.
Also, IIRC, the Chelated Mg is less likely to disrupt your GI. I really like chelated magnesium because it seems to make amphetamines act smoother.
We can't speculate about what prescriptions you want to switch to, we aren't doctors.
Check this thread out... http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...rotoxicity-and-Tolerance-Reduction-Prevention
Like other supplements, there is stuff you should be taking every day, not just when you take amphetamines. I take magnesium every day with all of my other supplements and vitamins, I only occasionally take prescribed amphetamines.

Thanks for the answers. But I wasn't looking for any speculation as to what medication I want to switch to, It has already been done by the doctor. Just wondering whether it was a good idea.