Switching ROA of meth smoking to oral

[Intenselife]

I go through a lot more snorting, when i first started recreationally using meth i would buy a quarter and snort it all at once and a mild rush/tingles, that would be disappear after 30 minutes and just be euphoric, focused high but with almost no physical body high.

Now i can't smoke an entire quarter at once, if done properly it could last me to day 3 and keep me higher/euphoric than blowing two big ass lines. If only back then i knew i about smoking it. But then again i've always been a recreational user, so idk maybe in the long term smoking goes through much more.

 

[8ball1234]

When i use meth I dont want any cigarettes at all. They dont give me a buzz and make me nauseous sometimes. Usually I end up putting em out or just holdin em til they go out (lol). Weed is really great with meth once the peak subsides, I dont feel it at all when im peaking. Xanax goes really well with meth as well as nitrous.

Yea I don't really smoke while tweekin either not that they make me nauseous but I just don't wanna sit there and smoke em haha I only smoke em if I'm driving and tweekin it does add some stimulation for about 30 minutes.

Weed and me don't mix well gives me psychotic symptoms and just raises my anxiety to a whole nother level and if I'm not peaking on meth and smoke or on the comedown and smoke ill become sort of psychotic and act really weird and shit and I notice it but can't control myself like I can't explain it but it makes me feel like I'm in a psychosis which I've expierences before and is not pleasant. Has another effect that makes my brain decipher everything I don't know how to explain it but its not pleasant.

Never tried nitrous but some kpins are really nice take the edge off so I'm not "buzzing" every where haha especially good combo if you go into work tweekin so people don't notice your excessive shaking and fast walking and shit and helps me sleep at the end of the day if taken in the mourning or just when I'm coming down.

 

[Intenselife]

I don't like smoking cigarettes if i'm smoking meth, since i hold in my hits with the meth i feel the cigarettes would put more pressure and tightening of my lungs and like you said a tiny bit nausea. I loved smoking weed after the high would be way worn off and the comedown was in full effects, however i wouldn't be up for more than 36 hours at the most during the times i would smoke weed with it.

But it took away that shitty shitty dead extremely anxious, depressed feeling it probably would of been more "psychotic" If i had done it after being for a few days or longer, i'm prescribed kpins so i think that's why if i ever do meth (kissed the last time goodbye a few months ago) or my prescribed adderall it makes the crash a lot easier than when i wasn't prescribed any. But then again i have to take the kpins regardless since i am prescribed it twice a day to keep my anxiety at lower levels, but if i wasn't on them they would feel even more useful/helpful when coming down. Also besides a lot of the psychotic symptoms weed produces after being up for a while, it also intensifies the hearing voices almost instantly as you exhale a few hits.

I never shake or walk extremely fast etc anymore like i used to when i would do meth, but probably because medications have changed my reaction to the meth, i also don't or wouldn't get the extremely dry mouth anymore like i would before to the point it was hard to talk, and my lips would turn all gross and crusty.

 

[g0to]

For me the dose makes the poison to a huuuge extent. I smoked around 0,6g in one sitting on Saturday around sunset. It had me spun out beyond all good reason, sure I went out to a show and had an crazy time but I forgot to drink any water, was still high as balls all sunday and sunday night, paranoid and anxious but geeked out of my mind, monday around sunrise I started to crash hard. All day I was listless, no appetite, still spun but my body was in disarray from that massive assault. Tuesday, Wednesday were again days for me to get drunk and stoned and eat massive amounts of food. A true "comedown" I didn't experience for a long time before that.

Thurs night (yesterday) I smoked around 0,25 and it got me good, it almost felt like as if there was something intrinsically different about the high. It was relaxing and allowed me to focus on tasks I needed to do around the house, and still gave me the euphoria I desired whenever I took a break to listen to music and play computer games. No twitchyness or paranoia at all, and it was just as good of a morale booster. Was given a foil wrap with around 0,15 inside "to get the day started" when I told my buddy I had work in the morning. I ended up melting it down on the foil and smoking 0,1 in the morning followed by 0,05 around noon. Now its 8pm and I feel physically back to baseline, still mentally high but able to eat and will probably sleep at like 1am. This type of use leaves me feeling satisfied and ready to rest, accomplished in my responsibilities which I've actually focused on and not blown off, without any type of comedown except maybe more tired tomorrow morning but none of the gnarly side effects, and most importantly physically healthy.

Don't get me wrong I would still IV 0,15 given the choice (my buddy gives me stuff as long as I promise not to shoot it because of how strung out he's seen me get in the past). But usually thats all that I need for a good 24-36 hours with IV. And I prefer it to smoking because it has a huge rush that levels out into a comparable smoked dose. But in terms of maintenence, productivity, as well as a hefty boost of morale and "scratching the itch" to get an instant fix without going bananas from dopamine overload, smoking is king.

Note: the dosages I am using are based on my tolerance as someone whose used regularly for ~15 months.

 

[8ball1234]

thats what i like about smoking its instant after that first hit you feel better while other ROAs take a bit to kick in even iv isnt as fast think about how quickly u can pack a bowl and light up abd get a hit, its quicker then preparing a shot
and ive noticed that to that smoking wont get me as stimulated as snorting and is a bit more mellow unless you smoke a decent amount but lets say i smoke .3 and snort .3 the lines gonna be more stimulating IMO

 

[Intenselife]

I'd die before i smoke a .3, as many meth users will tell you as long as you don't constantly re-dose or dose extremely high smoking meth conserves more than snorting. Without a tolerance and putting myself at too much of a risk for a possible overdose or very nasty sick feeling, i could probably snort a .3 at once (maximum probably). (3 big lines). But smoking a .3 at once with no tolerance whattttttt that would probably kill me.

From half a point .50 (like an averagish line) I could easily get 7-8 rips enough to give me a rush that snorting a .3 at once couldn't give me. A lot of people tend to say that smoking meth makes them more mellow, or sometimes even tired. I feel much more mentally and physically stimulated from smoking, because the little rush that comes with snorting 3x the amount smoked fades away and other than energy, some euphoria, focus their is really not much pleasurable physical sensations compared to smoking.

I never thought/believed that smoking could feel that much stronger/euphoric because the few times i did it, i would blow the smoke out right away but only from holding in some of my giant hits even though it's not recommended, is when i noticed a much stronger/euphoric high from smoking it. I could imagine if i was ever rare enough to get the rare very high quality meth yielding like 70% purity or more than smoking the typical .50 (half a point) would have even a stronger rush to the point i might feel more mellow or tired till it wore off a bit.

When you inject a high dose of meth or a large amount when non tolerant (had this happen once as i told you) i didn't start running around and bouncing off the walls like meth can and usually does, but instead was "floored" and couldn't really move much and felt pretty sedated/mellow but mentally and physically stimulated with a super strong rush, and could start to talk a lot again, move around quick typical meth symptoms AFTER the intense rush would die down a bit.

Shit how many damn hits do you get out of smoking a .3 in one session? I could get probably like almost 40 or 30 fat ass ones, but idk maybe that's normal for someone that is somewhat tolerant. Snorting a .2 at once isn't a huge rush or anything toooo amazing, whereas smoking for me conserves a hell a lot more even though i dose a little bit more frequently. Half a gram snorted could be gone in 1 1/2 days for me easily without any overly amazing rush, but smoked wise could last me .3 with being 3x more high/rushing than snorting.

 

[8ball1234]

You also gotta consider purity less pure shit burns quicker so less hits but in this case it depends who I go through one guy has super fire barley any white resin in the bulb when smoked and crack back stays clear until the end of the bowl that shit usually .2 to .3 and I'm spun off my ass but if I go through someone else (reason is gas money and distance) it's not as good and ill need more to get high and ill never get as high as I do with .4 of the good shit even if I smoke lik .6 .7

 

[Intenselife]

Yeah when i mentioned i had higher purity meth out here, compared to some of the "best meth" in my old city by like 5 different best meth dealers, i realized that it burns real quick in the pipe than the "supposeively very high quality meth" that i've tried compared this one. Not only does it burn pretty fast, but it makes a crackle noise and leaves a clear puddle/spot in between hits which is a good thing and can get massive hits.

So again how many hits does a .2 give you, just curious...

 

[8ball1234]

Honestly don't know I don't count but next time ill be sure to count

 

[8ball1234]

Damn tried oral it just didn't cut it and taking .5 is a pretty penny for a high like it is
Smoking I can use .2 and be higher then taking .5 oral I just don't know if I can permantely switch and taking .7 just to get to the level I want to be at rather then smoking .2-.4 and being pretty spun I don't know smoking is more economical IMO especially since I have a tendency to binge for a couple days oral is just to much money I'm budgeting myself so I can only take a certain amount a week and oral surpasses that budget.

I'm not spending my whole paycheck on it like I used to with coke and not even spending half saving half any more. saving up more so I can move out of my control freak mother's place and have a place of my own not an apartment I think there money drainers looking more at a condo or something.

 

[Psychonauticunt]

Taking it orally is definitely a better option harm reduction wise, but there are two big issues I see with it: 1) lowered bioavailabiltiy, and 2) ridiculous duration. Oral meth can easily last over 24 hours.