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Stimulants Switching from D-Amphetamine (Dexedrine) to D-Methamphetamine (Desoxyn).

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So I have I have been seeing a psychiatrist for at least the past 2 years and have been on d-amphetamine in the formulation of the Dexedrine spanules for at least 18 months now by his magical CII pad. They have been great at keeping me out of trouble as an ex-IV user and keeping me focused on the task at hand that right now includes getting ready for medical school and keeping a job at the same time. I had been complaining to him about the fact that even with the spanule preparations that the effects seem to only last at most about 6-8 hours whereas I would need them to last 18h at least. He adjusted this by prescribing 4x15mg a day to be taken as 30mg in the morning and 15mg at lunch and another 15mg three hours later. That has worked for the past 4 months but now even with taking weekends off I am still left with a short acting compilation of the medication. For those not familiar with me, I have a cyp450 hyperactivity enzyme conflict with most medications and while it affects the d-amphetamine somewhat, its not as bad as opiates or other medications.

Given all this I have been offered by him on the phone last week a chance to try d-methamphetamine in the formulation as desoxyn and adjust up or down as necessary until we find a suitable level. I know most people who were on pharmaceutical d-methamphetamine have reported back that it isn't as great or recreational as d-amphetamine was prior to switching, and most all reports I have read have them switching back. Would someone who has been on both or at least d-methamphetamine give me a readout on what I should expect to be different between the two medications before I leap on the opportunity as I don't want to get on something that won't work as well and be fiddling around with dosages when I could have been just on d-amphetamine instead and stabilized.
 
i dont do stims so im no help to you but ive *heard* that the desoxyn made people with adhd more sleepy than dex.. ive only heard that by reading threads.. do a search im sure something will come up.

Edit: maybe sleepys not the word but what i mean by it is not as energized..

through all the threads ive read it seems dexedrine is the best recreationally.. not sure if thats what your lookin for.. but id assume methamphetamine would be more but the pharmaceutical version just aint the same i guess.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
I liked meth better than d,l-amp. It was probably strictly the d-isomer, but then again, you're already taking the d-isomer of amphetamine. I can't really shed any light on what Desoxyn will be like.
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Thanks both of you for at least keeping the thread visible on the front page. =D

But I really would like a first hand account of d-amphetamine versus d-methamphetamine to be absolutely frank. I know all the lore out there about the two being different and lots of people on d-methamphetamine don't like it as much as d-amphetamine; but a reason why that is would be nice.

PS: Captain...... PMs :)
 
LSDMDMA&8078016 said:
Sorry I cant tell ya bout desoxyn..I am on dexedrine though, that works great.
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Haha..... thanks I guess...I agree!

I wasn't expecting more than 2 or 3 people on all the bluelight boards here to be on Desoxyn anyways, for some reason doctors are as hesitant about giving that out as much as they are about giving provigil around here if you can believe it!

Anyone's account of really pure methamphetamine used in a purely utilitarian way could help I guess until someone with Desoxyn experience pops up!? :|

Edit: If you would be so kind as to change the title to "Switching from D-Amphetamine to D-Methamphetamine. What to expect?" I would be most appreciative captain.H.!
 
hey bud, i dont know how to copy the thread and paste it here but UTSE " Lejunk's Desoxyn Thread" or just search for his user name Lejunk and its there. pretty good one i remember reading awhile back!! cheers
 
x7Mx said:
Desoxyn huh? Your doc must have a great writing arm ;)
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I asked him to look into writing a prescription for Cylert/Pemoline but the company producing the last available units for distribution in the United States where I live stopped producing anymore in 2005. That pretty much had our options limited to d-amphetamine or d-methamphetamine!
 
^my psych was even ok with his prescriptions going outside the country, if lets say some country had a formulation that they US didn't.
 
wow, you get brown and clears? Spansule slow-release pure speed... from a doctor?
the "brown and clears"or "triple dexies" (as normal are 5mg and "double" are yellow 10s)
were a 1970s popular form of speed and i believed they had simply gone with that generation like their pharmaceutical counterparts, black beauties/purple hearts/quaaludes.

in the uk and anywhere else i know outside america, 5mg dexies are the only one available and most countries in europe dont even allow those anymore. a doctor and professor of biology i know said he hadn't heard of this drug being produced anywhere for many years.
 
Cloud_9 said:
Edit: If you would be so kind as to change the title to "Switching from D-Amphetamine to D-Methamphetamine. What to expect?" I would be most appreciative captain.H.!
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You can change the title of your own thread by clicking the Edit button when you are logged in.

I think someone changed it for you already. If not let me know what you want it to say in a PM and I'll gladly change it for you.
 
rikerliker707 said:
wow, you get brown and clears? Spansule slow-release pure speed... from a doctor?
the "brown and clears"or "triple dexies" (as normal are 5mg and "double" are yellow 10s)
were a 1970s popular form of speed and i believed they had simply gone with that generation like their pharmaceutical counterparts, black beauties/purple hearts/quaaludes.

in the uk and anywhere else i know outside america, 5mg dexies are the only one available and most countries in europe dont even allow those anymore. a doctor and professor of biology i know said he hadn't heard of this drug being produced anywhere for many years.
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Get the brown and clear dexedrine myself, 15mg twice a day. Seemed great at first, now I would have to swallow a handful to get any real euphoric effects. Tolerance is a big issue in this regard. I just use my rx as prescribed now, to keep me moitivated and in check. Otherwise, there is no way in hell I am getting out of bed most days!
 
I had a script for d-amp and recently switched to d-methamp. The brand im taking is the generic that is produced by Mylan, so it may be a little different than Desoxyn.

A little background about me personally, I'm more of a fan of downers and have bad anxiety, thus the reason for me choosing the dextro isomers in the first place.

IME so far, the d-amp gave me more a better euphoria/motivation, with less peripheral effects. ive only been able to compare low doses: 15 mg of dex-amp and 7.5mg of the methamp. I will probably update this as i get more familiar with my medication, but so far i prefer the dextroamphetamine.

-cap
 
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