Survey - Would YOu Make MDMA Legal Or Illegal if you Could ?

[SmC]

illegal.... i wouldnt make as much $ if it were legal....

and then everybody would be E-TARDED

I doubt everybody would be, because of the opinion in todays societies on drugs. i hate having to rely on dealers though personally cause you get fucked around so often. If E was legal then I could get them much easier and wouldn't have to buy as much as I do at once.

 

[SmC]

I scanned both pages, but the first sentences in your post caught my eye and I have to totally agree with you there.
The problem with MDMA and other related compounds is that, if abused over a short-term (say a month), there are long-term consequences such as memory-loss, depression, HPPD, anxiety and so-forth.
Legalising it will most certainly make the Government and Health Departments liable for the increase in misuse of the drug and the widespread negative long-term side-effects.

It's still our right as adults to put what we want in our bodies though, if we suffer consequences from abuse then it is up to us to learn, not punish the responsible ones as I already said. Alcohol can cause long term problems but does that stop it from being legal?

 

[missing_one]

Making it legal would change attitudes toward the drug, and may shift drug use in current users towards alternate drugs.

 

[SmC]

I dunno if it would change the attitude straight away, but it would be a step in the right direction towards doing so. Doesn't mean everybody would be doing E though.

 

[electronicnotion]

i'd make it legal after a person has gone through some sort of class educating about the drug. with it being legal we could keep track of how much ecstacy a person was purchasing ergo using, and if and when a problem started to develop that person could get help before it gets too bad.

 

[purplefirefly]

i'd make it legal after a person has gone through some sort of class educating about the drug. with it being legal we could keep track of how much ecstacy a person was purchasing ergo using, and if and when a problem started to develop that person could get help before it gets too bad.

So should we be doing the same with alcohol? How about any highly addictive pain medication? What you are saying makes no sense. What happened to freedom of choice? Do you really want the government watching and regulating every choice you make? People need to take responsibility for their own actions. If someone wants to abuse a drug no one is going to stop them...whether the drug is legal or otherwise. I can't believe that someone would advocate the government infringing on personal liberties. I would rather not leave it up to the discretion of the government to decide what is and isn't good for me.

I don't understand why there is this uproar to save the population from themselves. Why do we want to save all of the irresponsible and "un-functioning" people in society?

I think that if drugs were legalized you would have an outbreak of a lot of people using for a short period of time, but once the newness wore off less and less people would abuse. Is everyone who has a drink an alcoholic or abuse alcohol everytime they did? Absolutely not!

 

[SmC]

^^ Exactly, thanks for saying what I wanted to say.

 

[Diacetylus]

So should we be doing the same with alcohol?

Yes, in my opinion we should do the same with alcohol (and with other drugs), if we did, there'd probably be much less negative impacts on our society. It's a practise of harm minimisation.

What happened to freedom of choice? Do you really want the government watching and regulating every choice you make? People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

Well, coming from your logic, people shouldn't have to undergo education and training before they get their driver's license. So, you think the government bodies shouldn't have any control in who they allow on the roads?

If someone wants to abuse a drug no one is going to stop them...whether the drug is legal or otherwise.

No, but we can try to educate them. The more someone is going to be educated about something, the more judgement and care they are going to take in making future choices. It's common sense, really.

I can't believe that someone would advocate the government infringing on personal liberties.

I think under certain circumstances, the government always should have a say. Our freedom is invaded every day of the week. Do you think someone should have the "freedom" to shoot another person if they don't like the look of them? I think the term "personal liberties" is used too loosely.

Why do we want to save all of the irresponsible and "un-functioning" people in society?

Because some of these "un-functioning" people in society, can't function because something like a curable/treatable mental illness is getting in their way of fitting in society. Psychologists and other mental health professionals have helped some of these people... who funds them? The government.

 

[purplefirefly]

Diacetylus -

I don’t think that trying to force people into taking a class about a drug is going to be people act any more responsibly. You can’t force people to learn if they choose not too. Does legality prevent people from obtaining drugs now? Is it more important to keep people formally educated or is it more important to keep slimy drug dealers from selling potentially harmful or fatal substances? What you are offering is not a reasonable solution.

Do I think that people should be more educated about what they put in their bodies? That is a hand down YES! I am an advocate of education and harm reduction. Sadly, not everyone feels that way. There are people who are perfectly content using without any knowledge of what they are potentially doing.

You cannot generalize my opinion of freedom of choice. My choice to take drugs in my own home, that I maintain and pay for, does not have any effect on anyone but ME. Someone who makes the choice to pick up a gun and shoot someone up or someone who gets into a car and kills someone on the road that is infringing on the right to life of someone else. There is no comparison between what I do to myself and what I do to other people. I understand that there have to be rules in order to maintain a somewhat civilized society, but where is the line drawn about what is “keeping the peace” and what is a blatant infringement on my rights? I think the government needs to have faith in people to make the right decisions. There are always going to be people who are not responsible, but why punish the rest of us who are?

 

[purplefirefly]

"Because some of these "un-functioning" people in society, can't function because something like a curable/treatable mental illness is getting in their way of fitting in society. Psychologists and other mental health professionals have helped some of these people... who funds them? The government."





And where does the government get their funds from? The taxes that I and millions of other American workers have deducted each week. Someone suffering from a mental illness that they were born with is far different than a mental illness that was brought on by self inflicted drug use! I don't think I should have to support someone who refused to help and support themselves because of choices they made!

 

[skiforlife]

Tricky subject.

I think, from a strictly idealogical sense, all drugs should be legal in some way or another for various philosophical reasons that I won't go into here as they don't bare repeating for the one millionth time.

However, the thought of legal E really scares me. Some people simply can not control themselves. Everytime I go clubbing and see a retarded 16 year old having a seizure cause they ate too many pills, I am reminded that there is a reason that drugs are illegal.

 

[MrMoss]

Illegal for everyone that's younger than me

 

[Elements]

Since I do E myself, I suspect it affects my point of view.

But I hate allways getting smacky pills... yes... one may test them, but one never know the streangth etc.

Anyway, I want it to be legal, with an age limit, 18. There are allways someone who just wants to get fucked up, and they will get fucked up wether E is legal or not.

 

[ford442]

i think the age limit should be 21 and that if it were legal society would learn the actual truth about it and understand how to take it (and all drugs) reponsibly - i think all drugs should and will be legal - i mean - think 100 years into the future - are we going to have 1,000,000,000 people in prison on drug charges?

 

[insanit_e]

I'd legalise it, and other drugs like LSD too. But yeah, only for people 16+. With this though, there'd have to be definite harm reduction education at schools, as well as education on the history of these types of drugs, including their religious/spiritual use, so that kids don't always just use it to "get wasted" like they often do., and can appreciate the importance and beauty on them. Similarly, because they're legal, the people that sell them, (i.e. pharmacists) should inform the buyers as to a decent dose and stress the importance of drinking enough water, etc. I think this would be such a significant step in changing society's love of power to the power of love, and would definitely solve some world/social issues. The most important thing, however, is that i think all world Leaders (i.e george bush) should be made to take either ecstasy or LSD at least once at the outset of their term in office to bring them to a good headspace to make decisions, so they don't just go killing and fighting all the time.

 

[psillocybin]

I don't like the idea of any drugs being legal (because I don't like the idea of the government taxing my shit) - just decriminalized. But really, with ecstacy, being legal and regulated (read: pure) would probably be a great thing. Of course I would make ecstacy legal.

 

[purplefirefly]

I don't like the idea of any drugs being legal (because I don't like the idea of the government taxing my shit) - just decriminalized. But really, with ecstacy, being legal and regulated (read: pure) would probably be a great thing. Of course I would make ecstacy legal.

The only reason you don't want a drug legalized is because you don't want to have to pay taxes on it? So you must feel that it is perfectly acceptable to get your drugs from a potentially dangerous crimminal who most likely has little (if any) scientific knowledge about the concoctions that he/she is mixing up?

And I hate to tell you, but without taxes, you wouldn't have roads to drive on, you wouldn't have a fire department, or a medical service, just to name a few.

Sorry, but if given the choice, I would rather pay some tax and know exactly what I am getting than dealing with some shady drug dealer and crossing my fingers that what I got isn't going to fuck me up.

 

[yellodolphin]

ha i always pictured that if MDMA was legal that it would be sold in these shops that look like a candy shop. You have the walls filled with transparent containers for pills of all colours of the rainbow with kool designs. And like a candy shop u get ur little back and scoop out whatevr candies u want. The candies have labels on the containers with all the info like how many mg's and what they are mixed with if they are that would be so kool.

^^^pills

 

[kowlowitz123]

I think if MDMA was legal it would have to be controlled sched II like amphetimine or other drugs that have the potential for abuse. And with all the violence and stress in our world it may benifit people that need more love than hate. We hear about people commiting serious crimes because their all waked out on crank or pcp ect...... I believe once people try MDMA they would not want to use those other drugs since they are prescribed MDMA. Plus if it was legal we would have TRUE mdma and not the poisions that are killing recreational users. I think crime would be lower and less ER visits and death due to pharm grade and quality control. More people would be happier due to the therapy they get from precribed MDMA and less violence. I think this would be a much better world with less issues with the legal use of MDMA. And for the dosage they can put in other compunds that would force the user to limit the amount they injest. Example: have every dosage amount have an additive that would make the user nausious if taken too much and vary the amount of additive for evey dose size like 5mg, 10mg, 20mg, 40mg, 60mg, ect.... and all those dose with the right amount of additive to make the user sick to stomach if they try to double up or whatever. There are many ways to control it .YES Legalize it but tight controll on it. people will still figure out a way to get it without prescription but they will be safe and will be able to take only so much of it also.

 

[lagomorpha]

yellodolphin that is the most awesome idea I have ever read.