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Survey - Would YOu Make MDMA Legal Or Illegal if you Could ?

also about prices of prescription mdma at the pharmacy. I really doubt that taxing it would cause us to go broke infact I can see it costing just a few dollars per pill. If you think about it the "expensive" pill at the pharmacy is only a few dollars per pill in most cases. So if a patient that uses prescription meds pays $200 a month for a 30 day supply of 60 pills they are only paying $3.33 per pill. Just do the math!

I dont see us paying 20-30 dollars per pill from a prescription. That would cost us up to $1800 per month. considering the pharm company will only pay a few pennies to manufacture the drug. Even now it only cost pennies to make mdma illegaly. Oh and insurance I'm sure we can get some covarage through that so we dont have too much out of pocket cost. I think MDMA would create more business for insurance companies since I'm sure people would be modivated to use the medication and not pay as much for it.
 
purplefirefly said:
The only reason you don't want a drug legalized is because you don't want to have to pay taxes on it? So you must feel that it is perfectly acceptable to get your drugs from a potentially dangerous crimminal who most likely has little (if any) scientific knowledge about the concoctions that he/she is mixing up?

And I hate to tell you, but without taxes, you wouldn't have roads to drive on, you wouldn't have a fire department, or a medical service, just to name a few.

Sorry, but if given the choice, I would rather pay some tax and know exactly what I am getting than dealing with some shady drug dealer and crossing my fingers that what I got isn't going to fuck me up.
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I didn't feel it was necessary to explain my anti-capitalist views, it's really off the subject. In short, I don't like a government I don't agree with making money off my personal enjoyment, even if it is supposedly put back to the community (which it usually ISN'T)...but that's a whole nother story.

I don't buy shit from shady drug dealers. There are people I know and trust, and there are testing kits too. I always know exactly what I'm getting without the government's help, and that's just fine.
 
psillocybin said:
I didn't feel it was necessary to explain my anti-capitalist views, it's really off the subject. In short, I don't like a government I don't agree with making money off my personal enjoyment, even if it is supposedly put back to the community (which it usually ISN'T)...but that's a whole nother story.

I don't buy shit from shady drug dealers. There are people I know and trust, and there are testing kits too. I always know exactly what I'm getting without the government's help, and that's just fine.
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Well maybe you shouldn't expect that everyone is going to have a solid understanding of all of your political views, particularly when it pertains to the legalization of a particular stubstance or not. You don't agree with the government making money off of your personal enjoyment? Maybe you should think about that the next time you or someone who are with is hurt and needs medical attention, you probably don't want to call an ambulance or go to a public hosiptal as funding comes from taxes.

Maybe you don't buy shit from shady drug dealers but not every single person who purchases drugs is able to buy from a source that they know and trust. Is it more important to keep your money out of the hands of the god awful government or provide people with a safe means to obtain drugs for recreational purposes? I think you should try looking at the bigger picture. I think safety is more important than the all mighty dollar.
 
Who really cares? If it's legal or illegal, there is still going to be a person behind it all saying "fuck, we sure do have a lot of money"
 
purplefirefly, I pretty much agree with everything you've said in this thread. Great posts.

The only restriction I would put on its use is an age restriction for buying it, to prevent minors from buying it, because they are not legally adults and their parents have some responsibility for guiding/controlling their decisions.
 
I'd have to say legalise it. I don't agree with government censorship on books or other media and don't agree with censorship of anything else either.

People would abuse it but then people also abuse alchohol and nicotine presciption drugs and painkiller etc. Some people will always abuse things.

Legalisation would lead to standardising ingredients and dosage as well as an increase in public education regarding it's use.

The current illegal stand only keeps it out of the hands of the stupid. Where I come from almost anyone can put there hands on it therefore it can be argued that simply making the drug illegal is not 'protecting' people at all.
 
5-HT2 said:
purplefirefly, I pretty much agree with everything you've said in this thread. Great posts.

The only restriction I would put on its use is an age restriction for buying it, to prevent minors from buying it, because they are not legally adults and their parents have some responsibility for guiding/controlling their decisions.
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I couldn't agree more!

Thanks for the support, this is an issue I feel quite strongly about!
 
The only way the fda will approve it for use to the public is to modify it to where people are forced to only take what they need. Just like tylenol#3 for example, it has the tylenol and codeine but they also had to add the caffein to make it difficult to "modify" or extract the codeine, therefor people will only take a limited amount of t#3 pills or what they extracted before they have a "bad" buzz from the codeine/caffein combo. I'm all for medical use but there is NO WAY they will let the public at pure mdma meds that is just common sense. It would be nice to have it for rec use. I heard denmark is trying to figure out a way to control it for legal rec use just like how they have weed in amsterdam legal
 
When's the last time the government condoned an intoxicant for public consumption? 1933, when Prohibition was repealed? And there's still a brigade that would love to see alcohol outlawed again, permanently. Marijuana is still Schedule I in the U.S., for chrissake.

Legalization of MDMA? Outlook hazy.. but my sources say no. The best we could hope for in our lifetime is status like 2ci--- unscheduled, but pseudolegal, on an iffy semi-black-market. And even that, I think, will never happen. E is too well-known. Popularity is the death-knell for any good substance. Not to sound selfish, but knowing what I know now, if I could go back and was introduced to MDMA before it hit the mainstream, I'd have done everything possible to keep anyone else from knowing about it.
 
Diacetylus said:
I scanned both pages, but the first sentences in your post caught my eye and I have to totally agree with you there.
The problem with MDMA and other related compounds is that, if abused over a short-term (say a month), there are long-term consequences such as memory-loss, depression, HPPD, anxiety and so-forth.
Legalising it will most certainly make the Government and Health Departments liable for the increase in misuse of the drug and the widespread negative long-term side-effects.

I personally think that it should be quasi-legal. Maybe, a mandatory course on MDMA should have to be completed (for those who want to use it) and a license issued upon completion. This license could offer those who want to use MDMA access to the drug under stringent and monitored conditions.
Example: There are only so many MDMA pills that will be issued to the user per year. Let us just pretend, 2, 100milligram pills per person that must be consumed on the premises of the venue. 3-4 times a year maximum, or something.

They could have small booths (like the mini-pharmacies in S.E.A.) on the street near well-known social venues, etc...

Of course, none of this is really realistic and will probably never happen in my lifetime. But, you never know. Some day, maybe. :\
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I really like your idea, and have thought of a similar thing myself. Let's say you are allowed max 4 pills a year. Someone will definately sell their pills to others that want more. Someone will definately turn to coke, speed etc. cause they're not allowed anymore X this year.

I hate the fact that it's illegal, I use it maybe once a month, (sometimes more, sometimes less). I don't hurt anyone by doing it, in fact I tend to be alot nicer when I'm rolling. The only crimes I'm guilty of is possesion of a class a substance, and use of a class a substance (I live in norway, use is illegal her) It's my life, let me do what I want!!!
The government controlls everything. The police actually canceled a Tiesto consert wich was due to be held in the end of september. The police say they fear for the safety of the ppl. (some 4000, lol) last summer he played for 40000 in amsterdam, with no problems. Just let us do what we want, its our lives!
 
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