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Opioids SURVEY ON BUPRENORpHINES BEST ANALGESIC DOSE

Prescottdave said:
Stashing meds would depend on the dose prescribed and the dose taken. Yes I have noticed better pain manegment at doses of 4 mg or less compared to higher doses.
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Ok, thanks! After a month of experimenting with up to 8 mg/day, I have concluded that the best way to do it for me is to go through the work day popping .5mgX2 in the AM, 1 mg at lunch, .5mg at 2pm or so, and 2 mg when I get home. In the later evening I plan on taking 1 mg at 8pm. I may fuck myself with this if sleep proves difficult with that much bupe in me, but I will report tomorrow. :) Cheers Subians
 
Fell asleep by 11:30pm. tonight took last 1mg at 7pm. hope to sleep by 10:30
p.s. 8 mg was actually kinda toxic feeling and I got depressed. 6 mg and under seems far superior.
 
The longer I took bupe for the more larger doses started to make me feel overly lethargic and depressed (maybe like this toxic feeling you just described having at 8mg?)

At very first 8-12mg per day felt great energetic and happy all day but somewhere between the first and second year I started noticing growing lethargy/depression/apathy when taking more than 2-4mg per day.
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
The longer I took bupe for the more larger doses started to make me feel overly lethargic and depressed (maybe like this toxic feeling you just described having at 8mg?)

At very first 8-12mg per day felt great energetic and happy all day but somewhere between the first and second year I started noticing growing lethargy/depression/apathy when taking more than 2-4mg per day.
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I had the exact same experience just with actual toxic effects to my health. They mainly included worrisome weight loss issues even with a stellar diet and excercise.
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
At very first 8-12mg per day felt great energetic and happy all day but somewhere between the first and second year I started noticing growing lethargy/depression/apathy when taking more than 2-4mg per day.
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Interesting :) Last night I had terrifying nightmares. I had been scaling down from last weeks 8mg/day run, and was at 5 or 6mg the last 3 days and I noticed tiny WD symptoms. But the nightmares! Did you ever have horrifying bupe related nightmares?

Prescottdave said:
I had the exact same experience just with actual toxic effects to my health. They mainly included worrisome weight loss issues even with a stellar diet and excercise.
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Well I can't wait for the weight loss! Maybe this will lift the fat gravity of my gabapentin/seroquel situation ;) Been adding a couple lbs a month, hope it's just winter...fear it's these oatmeal/coconut milk binges! -----p.s. what other type of health effect did you suffer?
 
It's pretty typical for me to suffer from unusually intense and vivid dreams during times of withdrawal (if I able to fall actually sleep) and during tapers usually. These intense dreams can sometimes be nightmares though I kind of enjoy the intensity of the dreams regardless.
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
It's pretty typical for me to suffer from unusually intense and vivid dreams during times of withdrawal (if I able to fall actually sleep) and during tapers usually. These intense dreams can sometimes be nightmares though I kind of enjoy the intensity of the dreams regardless.
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Me too! Always with the demons and physical pain of being bitten etc in my WD dreams Also, the reason that I am able to sleep through opioid withdrawals is due to Seroquel.
Agin today .5mg doses, 2mg in total until 2pm then a whole 2mg pill. Will take 2 mg at 6:15 prob after nap :)
 
CfZrx said:
Me too! Always with the demons and physical pain of being bitten etc in my WD dreams Also, the reason that I am able to sleep through opioid withdrawals is due to Seroquel.
Agin today .5mg doses, 2mg in total until 2pm then a whole 2mg pill. Will take 2 mg at 6:15 prob after nap :)
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Me three! Today is my 7th day on 2mg. And I have some wds and have been having crazy dreams/nightmares.
 
lol, how is the 2mg working for you? Better than 4? Same or not as good? How's the analgesia? I guess you need to stay longer at 2 to know for sure.?
 
Yeah I definitely need more time. Each time I make a drop the gap to getting used to the newer lower dose is larger. Hopefully just a few more days. I went from 4 to 3 to 2.5 to 2. Pain wise is a little hard for me to say since pretty much after I adjust to my new dose i can feel high most of the time. Not sure if it's better or worse but I am still getting some pain relief with my dental problems.

On a side note. Any advice other than to snort when getting a tooth pulled? Sucks to try to hold in my water mixture when a huge hole in my mouth. I feel like it's the cause for the hole becoming infected. I've asked this before with not to much luck. Probably nothing i can do but deal with it.
 
mtop2036 said:
Yeah I definitely need more time. Each time I make a drop the gap to getting used to the newer lower dose is larger. Hopefully just a few more days. I went from 4 to 3 to 2.5 to 2. Pain wise is a little hard for me to say since pretty much after I adjust to my new dose i can feel high most of the time. Not sure if it's better or worse but I am still getting some pain relief with my dental problems.

On a side note. Any advice other than to snort when getting a tooth pulled? Sucks to try to hold in my water mixture when a huge hole in my mouth. I feel like it's the cause for the hole becoming infected. I've asked this before with not to much luck. Probably nothing i can do but deal with it.
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OH no!!! Suboxone DOES cause tooth decay like a mofo!!! I knew sucrose (i think thats what it is in there) couldn't be that good for us! p.s. I've heard people smoke fuckin subs ;)
 
Going to follow advice of BL and taper dose to 4mg. Shit! Just remembered I forgot my evening dose. I am at 4.5 today! Should I just ride it out and begin taper?? I may just take a 2mg. Where you at BL bupers? Sub is the top pain med of all time in some ways :)
 
It did nothing at all. i was on 4 100mcg fentanyl patches.Presccribed. Morphine IS breakthrough. Now on 2 100 mcg patches and 8 mg dilaudid breakthrough. i'm pretty depressed.Not regarding pain meds...life. i'm probably too tolerant...anyway, bupo nor suboxone helped when I did want to quit.Too bad it's impossible to get gel atches anymore.
 
sikufthis said:
It did nothing at all. i was on 4 100mcg fentanyl patches.Presccribed. Morphine IS breakthrough. Now on 2 100 mcg patches and 8 mg dilaudid breakthrough. i'm pretty depressed.Not regarding pain meds...life. i'm probably too tolerant...anyway, bupo nor suboxone helped when I did want to quit.Too bad it's impossible to get gel atches anymore.
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its a pretty wicked substance in low doses broham! :)
 
Today stopped at 6. Yesterday only 5.5. My goal is a slow taper back to 4. Low tolerance leave room for significant analgesia with little 2 mg increases for tough days.
 
Today stopped at 5 mg. There is a certain amount of pain you must deal with when you go out shopping or whatnot, and dosing when you should just rest is a mistake.
 
I am hovering at 8mg when I want to be at 4. Getting yelled at by gf right before bed a few days ago set off a chain reaction, and now I am on too much sub and way too much coffee. Still, I persist in reporting on the Perfect Analgesic Dose. As long as I'm posting, might as well explain that 8 mg is indeed analgesic.
 
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