Supreme Court to pot users: Don't flush!

23536

Bluelight Crew
Joined
Dec 16, 2010
Messages
7,725
Location
Stop resisting!
http://www.policeone.com/drug-inter...les/3197947-Justices-to-pot-users-Dont-flush/

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court isn't given to offering advice to people who are breaking the law, even in a minor way. But some justices on Wednesday effectively told those who might be sitting at home smoking pot when the police come knocking: Do not flush the toilet.

Because if officers smell the pot from the outside, think the occupants are trying to get rid of it and burst in without a search warrant to prevent evidence from being destroyed, some justices indicated they would approve.

The discussion arose during the court's consideration of a case about when the police can enter a home without a search warrant, which the Constitution normally requires.

There are exceptions, and the state of Kentucky argued that its treatment of Hollis King should be one such exception.

The issue for the justices is whether police action -- in this case, a knock on a door -- that triggers a reaction on the other side -- like noise that suggests destruction of evidence -- should justify the warrantless entry.

New Justice Elena Kagan said she worries the court could make it too easy for police to avoid the time and effort of getting warrant "in a very wide variety of cases." She said that view would require only that officers said they smelled "pot, we heard noise."

Yet several justices suggested that as long as the police reasonably suspect something illegal is going on and do not use deception or illegal means to gain entry, the search probably doesn't violate the Constitution.

...

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wondered why police didn't get a warrant since the odor probably gave them reason to get one. "Instead of knocking, because once they knock they alert the people in there, let's get a warrant. We'll come back," Ginsburg said.

But Scalia was not showing any sympathy to King. With feigned outrage, he accused the police of "taking advantage of the stupidity of the criminals."

"That's terrible, that's not fair, is it?" he asked archly.
 
reminds me of the time my cousin and i were smokin a joint and the cops knocked on the door. Ever blow a hit into a cops face?

worse than that, I handed a lit joint to a cop that was standing next to me at a concert, I didn't even look round I just took a toke and then passed it on the the person next to me without looking, it was only when the joint didn't get taken that I looked around and saw I was holding the joint out 6 inches from the cops nose, lol.

I had a crew shirt on as I was working as a roadie for the band and the cop just told me to go backstage and to consider myself lucky he wasn't busting me, i think they were staking out someone who was in the crowd dealing so they didn't want to draw attention to themselves by busting me in front of everyone.

was very lucky that day, it could have gone very badly.
 
I never smoked pot inside concerts or did any drugs openenly. You never know whose watching. When smoking weed inside your house, be smart, light scented candles & what not. Also, turn on the exhaust fan & if you can afford it, buy a vaporizer, it will go a long way in the form of not smelling weed outside & it is better for your lungs.
 
That is seriously fucked up. If all a cop has to do break down your door is claim that he heard noises, it's gonna be a bitch to prove unlawful searches.:X
 
Now I'm gonna be too afraid to use the toilet, in case cops burst through my door as soon as I flush! :\
 
The arms race continues. Tokers schooled themselves on their rights under the law and argued them in court, and cops lashed back with search and seizure justifications that were hard, if not impossible, to verify or falsify.

Guys, just minimize the chances of being seen or smelled. It is, and has always been, the most surefire way to not be in legal trouble for smoking marijuana.
 
This seems like a slippery slope to me. It's bad enough that police can gain legal forced entry just by saying they smell weed. With this though, who even knows the limit. The sound of a sink running could be construed as a toilet being flushed. Background music may lead the police to claim that they couldn't hear wether or not a toilet was being flushed so they went in anyway. Like most of our formerly meaningful rights -- those actually protecting us from government intrusion -- those regarding search and seizure are being withered down to lip-service.
 
Top