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Supplier Raided!!!

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Its Pat

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For those of you who are into Research Chemicals, it appears an online supplier has been raided.
From Murple's Post at The Shroomery:
Well, I just got email from a reliable source that a supplier known for selling poisonous nonconsumables has been raided. I havent been able to call and confirm, as their phone line has been busy. No further details are available at this time... but my suggestion to folks is not to go ordering any exotic drugs off the net right now, as this may be the start of the smackdown we've been afraid of.
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Due to the nature of the business, Murple refuses to say which supplier (for obvious reasons! FORBIDDEN TO LIST SOURCES!!).
Here is the link to the discussion AT THE SHROOMERY!.
 
I think I know who it is too. He hinted to the source in his post (knowingly probably!). If you've been to ALL THE SITES and done the requsite reading, you should be able to put two and two together!
 
Jay-Ell-Eff for those who didn't know.. their site is still up and voice message has not changed, so this has not been confirmed - but I wouldn't bother sending them any money for the time being...
So I guess the "big 3" suppliers in the US have all been raided or stopped selling "research chemicals" ..
More info as it becomes available..
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Any thoughts this might have to do with the non-psychoactive precursors they sold? Some irresponsible individual with an advanced knowledge of organic chemistry could end up synthesizing 2-cb or mescaline from those.
 
Come on people they've had a special bulletin giving discounts to anyone that has a lawer degree!
Shits hittin their fan in a big way. It's a matter of time if not already.
and im talkin about the [Just Little Fungus] company
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Once it's confirmed we will be lifting the restriction on their name...
It looks like it's a really *bad* time for "research chemical suppliers", so I am really re-thinking this entire policy - given the way things are looking, we might be better giving everyone their chance to share suppliers, hook up with the dope and enjoy it before it's all scheduled... anyone have any thoughts on this? Why SHOULD or SHOULDN'T we life the no-supplier rule?
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I dont know about that PhreeX. Remember that the only reason the suppliers are getting raided is because some naive teenager overdosed or flipped-out and got the police involved. By keeping the suppliers names under wraps we are preventing newbies from getting a hold of something they know nothing about and railing lines of it only to find themselves in hospital. That way they have no option but to educate themselves *before* consumption. I think we should have a mailing list of suppliers where only invited members are allowed to share there suppliers. As you have already said leeching is not a problem as long as they are recieving and not constantly asking things like 'where can i get such&such'.
 
The problem with opening up to lists of suppliers and hookups is that, presumably, all kinds of 'undesirables' are gonna get the info, get themselves into a lot of trouble with it, and ruin it for everyone.
It'd be hard to find a way to allow people to share sources without making it the new focus of BL, or at least making it easy for -anyone- to find and use.
(This may sound like a dumb example, but try and bear with me...)
Everyone uses Winamp for their music, right? And most everyone is running version 2.X. If you go to winamp.com, it's got big links to download 2.76 all over the place. But if you click on 'community', and then the forum titled 'WA3', and you do some reading, you learn that Winamp 3 is in alpha, and you can download it.
Over a million people use Winamp regularly, but only a few hundred have downloaded version 3.
Is this example making any sense?
If you allow source/hookup posting in any of the main forums, you'll probably cause problems. If you can find some way to make it so that only the members of the BL community (as it were) are really aware of the proper place/time/whatever to share sources, it'll act as a certain level of quality control, I would hope. Not everyone would know about the section, because not everyone is interested in education, or harm reduction, or whatever other categories you could use to tuck away a chem supplier trading post.
Ideally, it wouldn't be a limited-access forum based on number of posts, or anything, but something similar to the Winamp example, where only those people truly interested in the workings of the software were made aware of the new release.
Just a suggestion...
 
Well a while back i found some chemical suppliers but i didnt have the cash to order what i wanted. Now i have the cash and well they dont carry it anymore. Im no newbie. SO if someone would like to help me emial me. Thanks
 
Don't give out the names to anything. The reason everyone is getting in trouble is because they're getting too popular because all these morons keep finding out and ordering this crap to sell at raves and what not.
Shut up about it.
Loose lips sink ships.
 
Soviet, I got my list of half-dozen suppliers through web searches. It took me no more than ten minutes.
Suppliers are going to be popular no matter what we do, and inevitably someone's going to do something dumb, and get another one shut down. To be honest, I really doubt having a semi-exclusive area where sources are allowed to be posted will really further the problem by any significant amount.
I would say that having a venue for supplier discussion could possibly help more than it hurts, due to the fact it would be possible to let others know when a supplier starts screwing its clients, or is known for shoddy products and/or business practices.
 
At first it was a good idea, because these chemicals were more obscure and less-known.. well, the big suppliers have all been busted now, and I don't think OUR gag-order did anything to slow this process... I don't think it's going to get any worse - the DEA has these on their hit list, so it's only a matter of time.. what needs to be looked at now is if the community might benifit MORE from knowing who is a scam and who is legit..
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I'm kinda agreein' with PhreeX. It seems most suppliers are going down anyways, so it isn't like we could really fuck it up more, and its definatly nice to know if you're getting fucked when you send money to a new place for the first time...
But all in all it doesn't really matter to me. I think it wouldn't be a bad move in the least to lift the no-supplier rule, but it still isn't quite a necessary one.
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Okay, two things.. whoever said it only took 10 minutes to find anything.. exactly.
If you're so retarded you can't figure it out on your own, you don't deserve to have access to this stuff, because obviously you're a complete idiot and you're just going to end up ruining it for the rest of us.
Second, that one place didn't get raided. Occassionally they don't respond all the time to emails/phones. There are two times I know of where the webpage was down for days as well.
I double checked and no, they did not get raided. Stop spreading these bullshit paranoid theories. They're not going out of business. "The end" is still a ways away. Stop panicking like retards until you know what you're talking about.
Not to mention that laywers/aclu members discount.. has been up.. for at least half a year now. Duh.
And if you can't get ahold of them to get a direct answer, stop looking for pure compounds and take a look at some of the other inventory.. do you really think some of those things would have been missed if there had been a raid anyways? No. Not at all.
AND one final thing.. most of these places DO NOT want free advertising, especially in reference where to get drugs. THAT would most certainly be the end if they were advertised as drug hook ups, and I don't believe many of these companies would appreciate it, infact I know for a fact that the one that has been referenced here had a website taken down that was selling their web address for $10 to obtain "legal drugs such as..."
So if you really are going to post, ask first. There's an American one that specifically says "Note:
PLEASE DO NOT POST THIS URL TO OPEN NEWSGROUPS. PRIVATE LISTS AND AND VIA EMAIL TO INTRESTED RESEARCHERS OK."
 
I dunna, murple was the person who originally brought it up, and these research chem places are his life - so I took his word as more then a rumor..
For the time being we will maintain our rule as enough of the established bl'ers are against giving the sources out..
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