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Supplier Raided!!!

I agree fully with PhreeX here. I say let it rip. Hiding the names makes these business's look illegal and shady...which they are not. Any one and everyone, including the Riff raff, has figured out who they are and what they sell. Why not go balls out with it. What would the risk be now that the cat is out of the bag?
 
I listed Murple's post first, gnrm23 also posted the same topic at the same time at the shroomery, though his thread was closed. Obviously they both found out about it at the same time, but for the accuracy of the source I cannot say! I'm just as skeptical as the next person, however if both of the afermentioned people both confirmed (once again sources!) what has happened, I will take it seriously until proven otherwise.
Also Murple closed gnrm23's post, because he listed the supplier. Murple replied that the "rumor" may not be true!
[This message has been edited by Its Pat (edited 15 September 2001).]
 
All publicily listed research places have now been put out of business or raided. People if they look enough, and they want it bad enough can find a place that sells it. You shouldn't make it easier for people to find these, as the people that don't want to put forth the effort don't care enough about experimental substances. This should not be changed, as many of the suppliers i was/are dealing with tell me in bold letters DO NOT PLACE US ON PUBLIC LISTS OR POSTS.
 
CURSES!!
I just mail ordered some money & order for 5htp and dpt.
I guess I'll not be seeing that again. . .
And as for the naming conflict. Lets be rational, the people who this is going to effect (ie. people who know who are they) are already going to know who they are, so no need to name them.
[This message has been edited by Plague Bearer (edited 15 September 2001).]
 
dude i dont know about you guys but i have searched hard core for a while. And i only found like 2. Then by the time i had cash they didnt carry it!I looked during the day and nothing. Maybe i dont need any more drugs
 
Some people are more credible then others in regards to sspecific things - murple has made these chemicals the better part of his life, and I know he personally knows some of the people behind these online stores - hence the reason I consider this semi-legit - enough to make the source name public (it's not like anyone would get the correct URL based upon "Jay Ell Eff" alone) ..
So, the policy stands - no sources.. any moron can find a ton of sources by simply going to any search engine and typing in a few words..
I also think that these places are only acting like they want to be seen as "legit" - ie asking the address is not posted to public forums... they are not suppliers to the modern research community, they are online drug dealers..
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CONFIRMED!
We have all endured some shocking developments lately. On Tuesday 9-11-01, our Nation was attacked by cowardly foreign terrorists whose actions struck a blow at the Constitutional freedoms we hold precious as citizens of the United States. We at ***** express all our sympathies to those who sustained large losses, and honor those who have heroically come to their aid. We would have temporarily closed our doors out of a respect for the victims and survivors of the attack on America, even if we had not been attacked ourselves. Although on a much smaller and less violent scale, the previous Friday, ***** suffered a similar attack at the hands of domestic terrorists whose activities, if unchallenged, will just as assuredly diminish and erode our freedoms as any attack by religious zealots. Led by agents from the FDA & DEA, various law enforcement agencies executed a search warrant at ***** and seized virtually all of our business records and a substantial quantity of our inventory. Though we were extremely upset and disrupted by the actions of our own government, we are determined to continue operating the same legal business and supplying the same legal products to our loyal customers that we have supplied for many years. Toward that end, we are up and running again at almost full capacity and should have any remaining operational problems resolved shortly.
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Well, how you like `em aplles?
 
Shot down, damnit i was just about to post that looked through all the posts all exited and boom you beat me to it..
but still
how do u like dem apples
im j/p i know no one actually said it was true, twas only speculation so im glad we didnt give out the source...
 
I'm sure they have nice lawyers from all the $$$ being made off of people like me, and I'm sure that they will fight this. Although the feds have a 90+ percent win rate.
 
I stand corrected. I still don't believe the sources should be named publically however.
And like, I still don't get this.. how the fuck are you going to get chemicals that aren't even related to anything illegal taken.. but you can still sell sassafras oil by the gallon!?!?!
 
They were not raidedfor selling "research chemicals" - but rather chemicals that are analogs of C-I drugs FOR RECREATIONAL USE.. while they don't actually saytheir products ARE for use in getting HIGH, they can still be shut down if the DEA can show they KNEW people were using their products for RECREATION and not "research" ... and yes, they do know, shit, thats why they sell them!
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Exactly, why do you think they go through all the trouble of covering their asses? Like I've read else where, they knew something like this was coming for a long time. Why do you think they've had that lawyer discount for so long?
 
Mr. S.Contin,
Quote:
"Don't give out the names to anything. The reason everyone is getting in trouble is because they're getting too popular because all these morons keep finding out and ordering this crap to sell at raves and what not.
Shut up about it.
Loose lips sink ships."
Are you on some pharm boards? You repeated a statement, verbatum, I made about IP's and sources. And ya know what? You are right. Use email, much safer and efficient. I recommend ziplip.com for secure email.
Another thing, it is NOT all morons that are doing this, just some with less common sense than you or I. Hell the other day I got an email solicitation from a well know IP. That seems a bit stupid to me. You know that giddiness you get when you get a nice package and you want to tell everyone about it. We all have it, just fight the earge, maybe pass it along to some friends by email. Anywho, email me if you would like to discuss further:
[email protected]
1love
Bombay
 
What the good doctor is saying, for those who are not good with subtle offerings, is that he will GIVE you a SOURCE if you send him an e-mail... why he would invite all that traffic to his mailbox is beyond me - but please, if you're a clueless idiot that doesn't have a source, and he gives you one, be a swell chum and mail him a few doses!
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I think this must be true. I ordered some "research chemicals" to conduct some research and sent an e-mail after not receiving them and have heard nothing back from them. This is not like Football at all. They have been very professional from the get-go. I wonder if my 4 orders (total)are cause to come get me? Oh, well. I have lot's o' prescription meds right now but nothing that would tie me to anything illegal anyway. Sad to see a supplier get the shaft. They were providing real stuff for research. It doesn't make sense that they would be busted. I guess it does but shouldn't they be going after those who got massive orders of precursors? I know that may be some of you but too bad. If you can't keep it in your pants then sometime, somewhere it will get chopped off.
 
The notion that ANYONE would be busted for placing orders is absured - unless you order some massive amount, and even then, it's not an illegal drug, so I don't think a warrant would be valid unless they had proof you were going to use it to get fucked up on (as 99.998% of EVERYONE that orders from them is..)
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Nobody is going to waste their time investigating and busting someone who ordered a small quantity of some drug that would hardly supply his/her entire neighborhood high school population even if they were actually into funky psychedelics. Especially considering none of them are specifically illegal anyways.
[This message has been edited by SovietContin (edited 19 September 2001).]
 
I can't imagine where you would get that figure from.
I for one never purchased any kind of chemical that I did not use for incense, potpourri, arts and crafts and other things part of non-consumptive, non-ingestive, non-culinary, non-food and non-medicinal nature.
Come on, who would eat, smoke or snort a poisonous non-consumable!? Not me!
To say that just because many of the research chemicals happened to have psychoactive side effects therefore people misused them is like saying heavy metal music makes people grow their hair long and sacrifice cats and dogs in their neighborhood.
Well okay, just because heavy metal music made *me* do that doesn't mean everyone else did...
 
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