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Supplements to increase HR when using 25i NBOME

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Reyno

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Under the impression that this drug can be hit and miss. Me and a few buddies are keen to try it as we can't find any acid atm :(
We have 500mcg Blotters. We will be dosing at the recommended dose of 750mcg ( 1.5 blotters each ).

Just wondering what/if any supplements could be beneficial for safety reasons? I understand that ODs only happening at stupid doses (5mg and upwards) and the ODs have all been from nasal ROA. But I'm really trying to play this as safe as possible.

I know magnesium and potassium are needed. What other minerals/supplements could I take to help?

Thanks in advance guys :)
 
Where did this idea of potassium and magnesium reducing the likelihood of negative reactions from the NBOMe series come from? I've seen it alluded to in a few posts over the past week or so without any evidence to back it up. We really don't need to create some illusion of security here...
 
^ Partly from me, I guess :/ Though I've never once claimed that it would protect you from an OD (there's no evidence for that). I just take magnesium supplements to ease the muscle tension I get in my legs (and it does work very well for that, speaking from personal experience). But I've only found it necessary on higher buccal doses of 1mg or above. With lower doses 25I actually feels a lot more benign to me than 2C-I or DOC/DOI does.
 
Came from me as well. Erowid has a report that suggests a person taken to the Hospital who had an adverse reaction to a low dose had very low Potassium and magnesium levels. Evidence came from the Doctors and nurses monitoring the patient according the erowid trip report.

As Zn13bt has noted, personal experience has led me to put a little faith in the idea of magnesium and potassium should be suplemented into the body before an 'experiment'. Magnesium boosts ones immune system, acts as a simple muscle relaxer and basic vaso dialator. On 500 ug of 25I I noted some very light vascoconstricition, mostly in the form of a cold feet feeling. When I upped my doses this feeling disapeared, but I made sure to have plenty of magnesium and potassium in my system.

It can be done naturally or it can be done via food choices. Some people may simply be point blank alergic to this substance. That is why the first step of HR should be an alergy test of NO MORE then 500 ug. Thats a HR attitude. We preach it, some choose to push it. I could find the link to the erowid Article if I really though it was needed but I HAVE done this several times already. I go naturally oats, potatoes, brown rice, Bannanas, avocados, hemp hearts for instance are LOADED with magnesium.


We all take risks. But the effort of HR is there, it isn't as though we are saying GO AHEAD go for 1.5mg to 2mg as long as you have magnesium in your system you will be fine. THAT would be IDIOTIC IMO. Personal health is an issue as well. I don't think people who are addictied to cigarettes should go anywhere near 25I. I have said that plenty of times. People are gonna do what they want.
 
Fair enough, though I think your original point has been misconstrued by some and taken as fact. I think one thing we can say is that we know so little about these compounds at this time that any suggested correlation between adverse effects and magnesium, potassium or any other factor should be considered highly speculative at this point.
 
It is better to worry about taking a measured, reasonable dose of verified 25x, than any "supplements". Most cases of harm from 25x seem to be in overdose scenarios, or where it was sold/consumed presumably as LSD.

I think one thing we can say is that we know so little about these compounds at this time that any suggested correlation between adverse effects and magnesium, potassium or any other factor should be considered highly speculative at this point.
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This. Although, the consensus seesm to be that in terms of activity the 25x drugs are pretty close to LSD in terms of what sort of HR to apply. A large part of the "damage" froma bad trip may be mental, not physical.
 
Thankyou everyone for your input. Some intelligent responses!

Yes I seen the erowid trip report as well. It worried me but at the same time there is a risk when consuming any drug. I will supplement potassium and magnesium 2hours prior to consuming and a few days leading upto also.
Me my best mate and his missus will be consuming this Saturday I don't want someone dying lol
 
Just go easy! I personally wouldn't take a 500ug allergy dose, I'd do something like 100ug & then maybe titrate up from there. Don't presume that your blotter are accurately dosed, don't assume prior experience with any other psychedelic will make you tolerant. Assume that your blotter is twice or even ten times the strength you're expecting & that way, if there are any dosage issues they'll be obvious after, for instance, a quarter of a blotter.

I know it's shit taking a drug that doesn't fucking work but far better that than an overdose, agreed?
 
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