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Super Size Me and Obesity in Australia

FoxyKel said:
perhaps - but common sense should tell us all that if you eat nothing but McDonalds, you are going to end up overweight and unhealthy - anyone who needed a movie or a poster to tell them that isn't very bright imo.
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Yeah but there are a lot of stupid people out there. And if the tv tells us constantly to eat maccas whilst bombarding you with images of food that have undergone 3 hours worth of makeup to look perfect, tell me that doesn't totally bypass rational thought and play on something subconscious in your brain.

Wow I'm feeling a bit peckish. Hey McDonalds sounds like a good idea. Those golden brown fries, luxuriously salted. That green, green, fresh lettuce. Heavenly looking thousand island dressing.

How about a warning at the end of the ad -

WARNING: Eating McDonalds more than once a fortnight can be harmful in the long term to your health. If eaten more than once a week our product will cause obesity and heart problems. Mothers, cooking may seem like a chore but constantly feeding your children our product, though easy, will cause them to be that fat kid at school that always got picked on.

We reccomend eating McDonalds only on occasion and only as an extra treat to a normally well balanced diet.

Thanks. Your friend,
Ronald


"Marketed to families, Get 'em young"

- The herd
 
I wasn't defending McDonalds in the process of pointing out how stupid "that movie" is, I realise we are constantly bombarded with McDonald's advertising and thankfully whenever I do eat McDonalds, it makes me feel physically ill (and has done for many years) so I barely even touch it.

McDonalds is advertising to the stupid anyway by showing the "nutritional content" of their burgers on the wrapper - anyone who actually knows how to read and understand a nutritional chart can see that the burgers are not good for you. Their new "low fat" burger has (from memory from that fucking advertising) around 9 grams of fat, and anyone who has studied nutrition or has been to a nutritionist will know that a solid food needs to contain 3 grams of fat or less (per 100g) to truely be considered a "low fat" product - McDonald's "low fat" burger contains 3 times that amount.
 
I haven't seen it yet either..

The thing that the movie is doing is forcing change upon Maccas and other fast food demons and that has to be good.

Maccas was doing this to an extent anyhow to counter the slump in sales due to the HungryJacks/BurgerKing threat from what i've been told. I think this movie is just another tool that Schlosser was talking about in 'Fast Food Nation' to get people to put pressure on fast food corporations to clean up their act. As he said all they want to do is sell stuff to you and if we demand 'x' or we won't shop there anymore then we will get it!!
 
FoxyKel - isn't it 3 grams of fat per 100 grams. So therefore if the burger is 300 grams then it is 'low fat'.
I dont eat Mc Donalds and i'm not defending the product cause i dont know how much it weighs but obviously it's over 100 grams, does anyone know??
 
FoxyKel said:
Their new "low fat" burger has (from memory from that fucking advertising) around 9 grams of fat, and anyone who has studied nutrition or has been to a nutritionist will know that a solid food needs to contain 3 grams of fat or less (per 100g) to truely be considered a "low fat" product - McDonald's "low fat" burger contains 3 times that amount.
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That's the problem. If it is not a low fat burger. Don't call it one...

There are always going to be people that are too stupid to think for themselves... And you know what, maybe they should just be allowed to eat themselves into oblivion, but there has been so much on the news recently about obesity in Australia...

A major step in solving this obesity problem is cutting out bullshit advertising... If people are too stupid to think for themselves maybe they do need to be told the truth...

Why should an average consumer have to have a uni degree in decyphering bullshit to be able to figure out what is healthy for them or not...
 
lostpunk5545 said:
There are always going to be people that are too stupid to think for themselves... And you know what, maybe they should just be allowed to eat themselves into oblivion
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No. It's likely many of these people will be processed through the public health system.

I'd rather have my tax dollars going towards preventative measures than have more people clog up the public health system.
 
Ive seen supersize me, and it didnt turn me off eating maccas at all, in fact I think I ate it the next day or something. 8(
 
Originally posted by Riot Grrrl
"No, but you super size your prices".

Last time I checked an average meal at maccas was cheaper than KFC, Chicken Treat, Red Rooster and Nandos. But I guess that must be me.

but they never tell you how many calories is in it.

Like the rest of the ad says, it's on the packaging and there have always been pamphlets about the fat and calorie content of the food. (A 20 piece chicken macnugget box is the single highest fat containing article on the menu. The lowest? The soft serve cone.

Mc Cafe wasn't open so i bought a coffee from the normal counter and I took a sip from the cup and burnt my tongue to the point where it was quite painful and talking was a bitch.

I suppose you also jump into a lake without checking the deepness of the water first? Did you complain that your burger wasn't pre-chewed for you as well?

Have i got some horror stories about Maccas from past managers who worked there. But i will leave it at that.

Good

It annoys me when people midlessly verbally bash maccas just because they've become one of the most successful fast food francises. I mean, no one takes into account that they sponser a number of community programs, donate to charity and pay their workers more than the other fast food outlets.
 
^ The arguements for the other side are just as numerous...

One of the worst violators of animal rights... yadayadayada....

Slave minimum wages... etc. etc.

And I'm supposed to respect the fact that Maccas gives money to community projects...

Hey didn't they sponsor an orang utan habitat at Taronga Zoo... Yeah but they cleared thousands of acres of Amazon for cattle grazing...

There is not a single arguement for the good that McDonalds has done that isn't ten-fold outweighed by the bad...

And what class with the Ronald McDonald house... They have the hide to ask for donations at the counter... After you have paid ten bucks for their shitty food they are too stingey to take money out of their profits to give to charity and expect you to do so, while they get all the credit for being such a highly moralistic organisation...

Hey newsflash arseholes - There is enough food in the world to feed EVERYONE! That's right, every single person in the ENTIRE world. But because of you corporate swine making everything about money and profit people starve...
 
^^ i agree with your last post lostpunk5545.

Pseudo G: I wasn't talking about KFC or other fast food establishments, but Maccas. Chicken and "Beef" are 2 different things, and 2 different prices.

The calorie content: Not all of the wrappers contain the nutritional value.

Temp of Coffee: What do u call a sip from a cup? How about next time i stick my finger in it so i can burn that too smartarse
 
Riot Grrrl How can you say McDonalds is expensive, I doubt your gonna find a cheaper meal elsewhere.
Last time I checked the McDonalds coffee cups actually tell you, 'caution contents is hot' on them so please don't complain about that.
I agree with Pseudo G and think you are just jumping on the wagon and bashing Macca's because they are successful and not for anything they have actually done wrong.

I may be wrong though.
 
If you had read my post correctly, not once did i mention they're expensive, in a nutshell, I said that they prices keep rising for food which is getting smaller is portions.

Ever since Maccas got sued over hot coffee, i doubt it would be wise of them to serve "hot" coffee. It's neglect, some places don't bother checking the temperature before serving
 
let's please try to keep this on-topic in regards to *obesity*. if anyone wants to start a mcdonald's/fast food thread (unless there's already one - do a quick search) feel free, and i'll chuck some of these posts into that thread...

otherwise...this is about super size me and obesity, please :)
 
Yes, people are responsible for their actions.

Don't blame corporations for successfully being able to cash in on impressionable minds, they aren't doing anything wrong because people are responding and reinforcing that what they (fast-food corporations) are doing is working. You can't change the mentality of corporations.

People do have an idea that fast-food is bad for them, there are reasons why some people don't bother to let the concept of obesity bother them. We know that we are ultimately in control of what we decide to do. Anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial by using product pushing and immersion as an excuse.

An excuse will justify living a certain way. Obesity is about lifestyle and food consumption is only one aspect of it.

I feel that there is a massive issue here - and to get to it you have to dig a little deeper and determine why it can be said people 'abuse' or 'neglect' their body and health in this way. Yes - upbringing and the pace of today influence how we eat and how we exercise, but it is really not that hard to not do these things - it has a lot to do with society and the media and this notion of 'fear' that is an effective vessel for profit.

The way I see it - if people have justified in their minds a reason to live a certain way they have created valid purpose to go about living that way - but more often than not - something has played a major influence on their thinking. And it is this thing that needs to change. And it is linked to fear and thrives on insecurities. People won't see anything wrong with what they're doing if they are given - or they create - an excuse.
 
^^^ what i object to with mcdonald's (aside from, of course, the sometimes terrible working conditions in america and their numerous violations of animal rights) is that they do (or have until this film came out) give the impression that it's okay to eat their food constantly and remain a healthy person.

yes, it's true that any intelligent, normal, sane person should know this isn't true. does that give them the right to then attempt to deceive us anyway? that's what i think is wrong :)
 
^^ It is wrong, and unfortunately people do buy into it. And that is the thing. And they have no right to deceive us - but there is an underlying reason to deceive us and though the ultimate goal is money, it is the base attitude most people hold that allows for this deception to feed on. And I don't think McDonald's can be solely blamed for this however enough people don't think critically enough to determine how it is they are being deceived into thinking a certain way - or if they are being deceived at all. As long as the number of people that accept everything upon face-value and believe that what they're told by a perceived authority (corporations included) is true they won't want to upset the balance because they think that nothing is wrong. - and it is definitely wrong to hand people this perceived comfort like what McDonald's does.
This issue is about a change of attitudes and I don't think promoting healthy eating schools or sport tenfold will change things too much. I have had somewhat direct experience of this and it is more a case of a 'window opportunity' by those that propose these things to give people an impression that something is being done. It is too temporary. I still think that our obesity levels will continue to soar for a good while. Prove me wrong whoever has the power.
 
Ok rather than making this a vendetta strictly against McDonalds (although I truly beleve they are one of the greater "evils" in this world) I think that a lot of obesity problems can be traced back to modern society in general. This whole culture thing we have going here encourages people to blindly consume without thinking.

Free to air TV is the worst thing that ever happened to Homo sapiens.

Sure it's up to the people who are overweight to stop eating. But a lifetime of being brainwashed by TV, Billboards, Commercial radio, Fliers, Junk Mail, Trends etc. can make even the most rational of people have their wallets out of their pockets and a full belly of shit food before they have thought about it.

Tell me next time you are at your local shopping centre which store you just go to without thinking in the food court. Do you go to the sandwhich store? Or do you directly stand behind all the other people in line at KFC, McDonalds etc. Not only that, but what ratio of actual healthy food outlets to corporate fast food is there in your average food court?

And it's not just advertising. This food does taste great. It is addictive. Every single bite is packed full of greasy, tasty, chemical added goodness. It's insane. You can't open a packet of cigarettes without reading 15 warnings - why should it be any different for this food?
 
up all night said:
All this bitching/ whinging about Macca D's is quite ridiculous.

It's a fast food outlet people not a fucking gourmet restaurant. There's nothing wrong with macca's if you don't eat it every day and I think anyone who takes SuperSize Me seriously needs a reality check.

Controlling obesity is about personal responsiblity and correct parenting and I find it disheartening that people think it's okay to blame a corporation for what is essentially a personal problem.
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I totally agree with this logic.
 
lostpunk5545 said:
^ The arguements for the other side are just as numerous...

One of the worst violators of animal rights... yadayadayada....

Slave minimum wages... etc. etc.
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Erm... rather than counteracting Pseudo G's argument, I think you proved it.

Minimal Slave wages ? You must be joking me. They get base rate in Australia. If you want minimal wages how about taking your hippy loving corporate bashing to Nike who pay their workers $2 a day.
 
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