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Super Size Me and Obesity in Australia

Sidwayz

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Super Size Me

hey

Who has seen the Documentary "Super Size me", where a guy eats nothing but maccas for 30days straight?

I cant believe the size of the USA's super sized meals - our small coke is thier large coke!! And their super sized coke is something like 1.5 litres. When the guy ate his first "Super size" meal - it took him 22 minutes and he vomited afterwards.

After seeing this, you can see where the USA's obesity problem is stemming from. And Australia is heading down the same path with obesity at record levels in children.

If you've seen it - what did you think of it? If not - what do you think in general of the obesity issue?
 
yeah i seen it a few weeks i thought it was a good movie. didn't make you want to smash down maccas or anything was just cool.
but it's really the best advertising for maccas ever, after it me and the mates i went with all wanted maccas sooo bad after it
 
Yes, I saw this last week and it certainly was an eye opener - man that much food in one meal is just... eeeewww... No wonder obesity is so rife.

I liked how the guy spoke to the lunch caffeteria staff and stuff, and nutrition is well, hmmm, a bit of a joke.
OMG my friends thought I was a nut case because i have been CRAVING a double quarter pounder with cheese since seeing it. Hehehe! Must be subliminal something or other :p
 
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i'm going to leave this open for the mere fact that it actually is addressing australia-specific issues. can everyone please make sure it stays on topic though, as it will have to be moved or closed otherwise.

i'm going to edit the title, too.
 
yes, i've seen it.

i really didn't think much of it at all, tbh. it told me very little i didn't already know (you're much better off reading eric schlosser's book fast food nation than seeing this film), and i didn't really think it was particularly interesting either. a few funny moments, i guess.

still, i think it's addressing an important issue, and it's always good to get such things out there. it's weird that we have such a problem with obesity too, actually, when you consider just how sports-mad this country is. it's understandable in the u.s. because everything is about *big*, and their sporting rates for children aren't as high.

i think the proposals by both labor liberal which will address the issue have been good (though perhaps the liberals' is a little ott and unrealistic). i don't think kids should necessarily be compulsorarily involved in lots of sports (even any), but some form of exercise is a must. healthy eating is certainly worth encouraging though. i read an editorial in the age recently where it mentioned that it's all about the lack of exercise, because 'back in the day' kids still ate junk food.

now, that may well be true, but kids eat a lot more of it these days. i find it quite depressing when i see mothers or parents so involved (sometimes through no fault of their own) in their work or similar that they let their kids eat absolute shit day after day.

that said, exercise is an important issue. when i was younger (and it's not that long ago, really ;)), i'd ride my bike to and from school most days, and if i wasn't doing that i'd almost always walk. i played basketball every day after school, and regularly hung around with friends doing some form of exercise. AND i still found time to cram in a couple of hours of t.v. and some video games too - it's not like i was an atypical child or anything. and i loved my life.

so it's not like these kids don't want to exercise, they just need to be a) encouraged, and b) shown how fun it can be (and is)!
 
Haha I love the posters that McDonalds have put up everywhere..

"Have you seen that movie?"

Guess it definately must have struck a nerve...

One of the points on the poster is that the guy in the movie ate Maccas for a month straight, but McDonalds reccomends eating McDonalds plus a balanced diet... What the fuck? You'd really think that from the way we are raped with Maccas fucking advertising 24 hours a fucking day...
 
perhaps - but common sense should tell us all that if you eat nothing but McDonalds, you are going to end up overweight and unhealthy - anyone who needed a movie or a poster to tell them that isn't very bright imo.
 
If you eat nothing but only one thing, regardless of what it is, I can't see you being very healthy anyways. Just cause this guy chose maccas isn't such a big fucking deal. He could have ate nothing but tofu and would end up just as sick. Perhaps not obese, but other health problems would arise.
 
One summer a couple of years ago I got addicted to oreo McFlurries and gained 4kg in two weeks. Heh.

The good thing about all this publicity is that Maccas is becoming more healthy - crap still I guess, but healthier.

I remember as a kid riding my bike everywhere, playing hockey and cricket with kids next door etc ... didn't have TV, computers, and so forth (hippy childhood and lived in the country) so was this skinny, fit kid.

Life's changed for kids now I guess, and not for the better.
 
personally i didnt think this movie was anything fantastic but i thought it was a pretty good idea, although i think this guys doco making skills need some work...i would have liked more of what exactly happened to him instead of all the little side tracked things that he never really got right into. but im a picky film student so meh....

the obesity issue however is something that NEEDS to be addressed NOW. if we ever become like the states omfg....i think we are dealing well with the problem. australia seems to have a fairly healthy attitude towards sport/exercise and eating right, i just think that paresnts need to enforce it more :)
 
Onetwothreefour - I have read the book "fast food nation" also - this more looks at the high level antagonists to the fast food problem - the huge companies that own meat processing factories etc.

But as you have all said - are kids getting lazier? Are parents taking less responsibility for their childs health? I was also made to play at least one sport as a kid and I had to walk to school everyday. I also remember being SOOOO jealous of the kids at school that got those little packets of chips and chocolate and stuff... when I got a sandwhich, muesli bar and a piece of fruit - oh how I thank my mother today!

Is it just easier for mums and dads to give thier child $5 for the canteen to by a sausage roll, then actually make a nutricious lunch? I know that today with working dads AND mums - it must be hard.
 
I think he stated the fucking obveious (sp?).
People need to take responsability for their weight, we seem to be a nation of excuses when it comes down to it.
 
Things have changed since i was in primary school i guess??? I dont know, i guess i was always just a really sporty kid. I loved sport, was good at it, and i found the exercise exhilarating.

I've been to a couple of countries around europe and am european myself, and my major observation is that there is a specifically different lifestyle pattern in Australia (i cant speak for the US personally cos ive never been there, but i cansure imagine from what i've seen and heard ;) ) from other cultures.

For example, when i was little up till i was four (when i migrated to Australia with my parents) i lived in a flat. It was a huge block of flats, with another huge block opposite, shops down at the entrances, a blasketball court, it was more like a community really. My best friend lived in the opposite building, and all my other friends also lived in flats in buildings that were part of that compound. This sort of lifestyle really created a different type of community, and thus enforced alternative social behaviour. Since all my friends lived in the surrounding blocks of flats, i was never bored, constantly playing and having fun..and the older i got i could go down stairs and across to my best mates entrance by myself, buzz her and get her to come down and play, and there would always be a group of us having fun doing what kids do and living happily. I can actually say that i think those are some of the fondest memories that i have of my life.

When i got to Australia, i was isolated, naturally cos we didnt know anyone, and being an only child also didnt help me any. We originally lived in a small block of flats in Richmond but there were no kids my age living there. Everybody else lived in houses, and when i got to primary school because all of us lived in different areas, even when in the same suburb it was too far for us little kids to go over to a friends house by ourselves. This created "play dates" i.e. "mum can i go over to blah, blahs house?" Then if the answer was yes mum or dad would have to drive you round to your friends house, you'd play then come back home. As you can imagine in those situations because parents have their own life with their own general responsibilities outside of their kids (work, bills, shopping, appointments, etc), play dates can therefore only occur when parents have the spare time. So what happens in all those times when parents have other priorities? (And i'm not blaming parents here really, more a system). Kids have the T.V and video games for entertainment thats what happens, and mums and dads give them junk food. Why do they give them junk food? Firstly because their growing kids they need nutrition, then because its cheap, its fast (this being essential to accommodate for the busy life and lack of time that the ps have), and finally its tasty. It works because the kids like it, and that then compensates for any guiltiness that the parent may have for their behaviour. Therefore in some sort of conclusion kids are static, and feed the wrong type of food which results in natural weight gain.

Of course, its an individual thing though, sum kids are just naturally inclined to be more static then others, and like to eat and therefore get fat, and it has no specific link to that culture. However i do believe that the capitalist system in general upholds values that are wrong and thus a lifestyle.

When i was overseas one of the things that i noticed was that people tended to eat healthier because the junk food wasnt considerably less expensive. Buying a Big Mac cost just as much as buying a sandwich. Honestly i really believe that this makes a big difference, because people *are* generally aware that junk food is bad for them. So when its the same price they'll perhaps be more inclined buy the sandwich...? I havent seen the movie, but have briefly heard about the general concept. my thinking is that the movie is essentially prob doing more good then harm. in that although most of us know the obvious 'junk food is bad for you' sometimes we need to be reminded of the fact. Repetition is the key to advertising after all... and also, there's always a difference between knowing something and truly accepting it.
 
Firstly, no i haven't seen the movie, but it's not hard to guess what it's about.

About Macca's defense to the Movie:
When i first saw the Macca's commercial, in response to the movie, i laughed my fucking head off. I love it how the chairman or whoever the fuck he was said "We don't super size our meals" So i made a counter-slogan for them, "No, but you super size your prices". The difference of the Australian Maccas and American Maccas is that the Aussies have become so stingy with the portions of the meal. Since when is a big Mac these days a fucking BIG Mac. Before the rant starts about how they're trying to compensate for their healthy meals range, I bet the healthy range isn't all it's cracked up to be, I wouldn't believe everything Maccas throws at you. Yea yeah, on their ad they brag about how much fat is in their new beef burger, but they never tell you how many calories is in it. I'm sure if you have one meal from the healthy range you've used up your daily calorie/fat intake for the day, and your still left hungry.

And if you don't want the kiddies getting fat of Maccas, then the parents have to put their foot down and tell them "No McDonald's today".

Oh yeah, and another thing, seeing as though i'm flaming the shit out of Maccas, I don't know how many training and meeting sessions the young teens get at maccas per year about OH&S, but i'll tell you, at some of the Macca's restaurants it's not enough. I will never buy a coffee if it's not from the McCafe. Last time i bought a coffee from the place was coming back from clubbing. Mc Cafe wasn't open so i bought a coffee from the normal counter and I took a sip from the cup and burnt my tongue to the point where it was quite painful and talking was a bitch. For 2 days i was drinking cold drinks to ease the pain, and yeah i did go back and tell them their coffee was too hot and asked for them to put ice in it. I didn't even get a sympathetic apology, even the manager was fucking standing there looking like a stupid dumb bitch who had no clue.

Have i got some horror stories about Maccas from past managers who worked there. But i will leave it at that.
 
Sidwayz said:


But as you have all said - are kids getting lazier? Are parents taking less responsibility for their childs health? I was also made to play at least one sport as a kid and I had to walk to school everyday. I also remember being SOOOO jealous of the kids at school that got those little packets of chips and chocolate and stuff... when I got a sandwhich, muesli bar and a piece of fruit - oh how I thank my mother today!

Is it just easier for mums and dads to give thier child $5 for the canteen to by a sausage roll, then actually make a nutricious lunch? I know that today with working dads AND mums - it must be hard.

haha yeah i'm one of those mums too. Thats pretty much what i give my son for school to with the ocasional treat(musli bar etc). He came home from school one day and started ranting that the canteen is turning all healthy and i told him it was good and he said "But you already give me healthy stuff!!" and started pouted lol I give him canteen money occasionaly aswell but its maybe a weekly/ fortnightly thing.

He doesn't play sport because i don't have transport so it's kinda hard to get him to trainings and games and things. He was in little athletics when my little sister was doing it so i got a lift with my mum. He visits his dad every fortnightly weekend and he barely ever took him on his weekends so he missed out on having a personal best score and what not which i was quite pissed off about! :X

He wants to do thai kwon do (sp?) though so i will be putting him in that soon because there is one where we live so it's easy to get to. I think it would be good for patience and disapline and him being quite a passive and only child will teach him self defence skills if he needs them (I don't know how to teach a young boy to do this 8( and i don't want him "fighting" just being able to know how to look after himself if he needs to and such.

I don't let him watch too much tv and play his nintendo but rather spend time making art, making time for reading and going to the park etc so he gets time outside and stays active. (mentally and pysically)

So sometimes parents might not look like they are taking control of their chidrens health but sometimes circumstances prevent you from doing alot :)

Obesity and under active children is a VERY big problem in this country though. Learning how to be a primary school teacher has really opened my eyes to that. Something has really got to be done about it. 8o
 
All this bitching/ whinging about Macca D's is quite ridiculous.

It's a fast food outlet people not a fucking gourmet restaurant. There's nothing wrong with macca's if you don't eat it every day and I think anyone who takes SuperSize Me seriously needs a reality check.

Controlling obesity is about personal responsiblity and correct parenting and I find it disheartening that people think it's okay to blame a corporation for what is essentially a personal problem.
 
Originally posted by FoxyKel
perhaps - but common sense should tell us all that if you eat nothing but McDonalds, you are going to end up overweight and unhealthy - anyone who needed a movie or a poster to tell them that isn't very bright imo.


I agree - but you have to admit that the movie serves a good purpose. The movie presents one side of an extreme. The movie has such dramatic and sensationalised effect that it ephamsises the need to eat a healthy diet.

Most people would not have recieved such a message should the movie have presented a person who ate mcdonalds passivley, or perhaps more than the recommended doeses.

Documentaries like this ensure that companies such as McDonalds keep their focus on nutruition rather than profits alone. On that point i think the movie is well served.

In an ideal world you wouldnt need such a movie because people would be aware of the consquences of mild to extreme fast food consuption. But the word is full of less than intelligent people unfortunately.
 
yes the film states the obvious, but it gives a much needed voice to a subject that most of the mainstream media don't dare touch. it comes at a time when the multinational has been trying to reinvent itself after the almost underground efforts to expose its truths appear to have inflicted slight damage. first came the advertisements that made a mockery of the sceptics, the nutritional poster out in the front of the store for all to read. the "real" eggs, the "real" milk used in the shakes. i wonder for how long before these advertisements went to air was the "real" milk being used. we then were confronted with their new healthy range where mother would now be happy to eat the food served at a restaurant that she previously saw produce items unfit for her own consumption and deemed suitable only for her young and dependent son. how could we forget the 'neo hippie' with dreads that was happy not only to just set foot inside the establishment his peers are so stereotypically against, but to consume and enjoy an animal friendly product from the new menu. currently we are presented with the advertisement mentioned in previous posts above, i'm sure this one had the working title of "damage control" on the advertising agency desk.

i'm happy to eat junk from various fast food outlets (with the exception of the restaurant chain in question.) even though i know their product is bad for me. it is my body and with my mind i make this decision. i just don't like being lied to by corporations of any industry trying to justify and conceal the evil they peddle.
 
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