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Super Important - Drugs and Driving

Flea,
the circumstances you described driving home under are downright dangerous. Driving should only be attempted if you are certain of your capabilities.
And I can't beleive that $10 comment. That's 1/5 of a pill. Fuck.....
Unfortunately, in my last job, i was involved in 3 fatal vehicle investigations. In all of them, substance retardation, fatigue and alcohol were involved. The worst a 215 kmh closing velocity head-on collision between a Magna sedan, and a 4 tonne trayback truck.
Having seen death, and the implications to friends and family at close range in these circumstances, is not pleasant.
Experience is something you wanted 10 minutes ago, and you do not want this experience.
I appreciate your honesty, but that is about it. Can you imagine coming down and washing the blood off your hands?
 
***only when i'm sure my judgement/reflexes will be the same as they will be when i'm totally straight. but that's only if i absolutly have to drive. i have a trust issue with other people driving even slightly fucked:
I'd rather drive to a party, straighten out a couple of hours before i leave, then drive out of there slightly scat, yet pretty much normal. i'd MUCH rather do that than jump in someone else's car (no matter how much i'd love to not have to worry about my mental state and ablilty to drive). Not knowing exactly how fucked up/tired they are. simply trusting someone when they say, "all my drugs have worn off and i am so awake..." won't convince me one bit. however if i'm the designated driver, i will know 100% whether i am safe to drive or not. If i'm not i'll wait/sleep until i am sure.
i will NEVER drink and drive. not even the morning after a big night at the pub.
don't worry too much about me bfb/bassy, seriously i will still be able to judge my ability whether i am fucked or not. i'm probably one of the most sensible people you'll ever meet when it comes to drugs and driving - or even just driving - or even just drugs. i DO take risks, but not outside the limits of my ability/knowledge.
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i've stayed quiet 4 a while with this topic but i'm agreeing with every1 else with do not drive when under the influence of any type of drug or when u've been drinking
my heart goes out 2 u DQ coz i was in that situation @ the age of 5 .... my father died in a car accident coz he was under the influence of both drugs & alcohol .. no1 else was injured in the accident coz it was only him .. he drove in2 a creek & his neck was broken & he died instantly
the stupid thing is when im coming home from a club or event i still get in a car ... but after reading DQ's story & what every1 else has said im stopping as i dont want 2 turn out the way my father did
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What's it doing 2nd page? This is so important.
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I'd like to jump on the moral bandwagon with you all, but the point remains, most of us will continue to drive home scattered or in a car with someone who is. I've driven drunk, stoned, peaking, tripping all of it, and yes, it was very fucking stupid, and I wouldn't do that these days. However, take kryal for example, that's a 2 hour drive back to my place, with no other options but to drive. I'm not going to make someone go and not drop just so we have a designated driver. What I generally do is after the event, sit in the carpark for a few hours, maybe have a kip, just to gather my thoughts and my sanity.
I believe that I can drive fairly well the day after, and I am always sure that I have reached a level I feel comfortable with. But there are a lot of us who do drive when we shouldnt.
I guess my point after this ramble is that I will drive tired, but not if I am feeling the effects of the drugs the night before. I also have a good friend sitting next to me the whole way to keep talking to.
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Yeah Kryal is ages away but you could catch a bus or actually have a decent sleep aferwards. You said "I believe that I can drive fairly well the day after, and I am always sure that I have reached a level I feel comfortable with. But there are a lot of us who do drive when we shouldnt.".
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The fact is you don't know shit when you've been off your pickle and you must, I say must assume that your still under the influences.
Case in point. Last Sunday at 6pm (I had been to Fusion the night before, took last bikie at 4am, had slept for a few hours) I could still see some very faint and vague visuals and was about to head out. So what did I do, I got my GF to drive who hadn't sropped.
Take fucken responsibility.
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I was expecting a response like that.
I believe I do act responsibly, and I take responsibility for my actions.
My main point is that so many people on this thread are getting all moralistic, but I bet most of you will be back in ur cars before summer is out.
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^^ I agree with the above. It's similar to the whole *taking drugs* thing. Instead of saying 'Don't do it' perhaps a more effective approach would be to say 'how can we lessen the dangers in doing it?'.
We all know doing drugs can be life threatening, as can driving in any normal circumstance. I don't agree with people driving under the influence, of drugs, alcohol, or fatigue. Fact is, people are going to continue to do it, no matter how many lives are lost... 3000 people at Fusion (atleast), 99% of people under the influence, a whole carpark full of cars. Go figure.
 
I've posted this before in this chain of threads, but since people don't often go back and read the whole thing, I'll post it again...
After the last Hardware Universe at Kryal I was the one driving a few people back to Melbourne... I wasn't in a state to be driving back after Kryal, so I went to Psyentist's place and slept there for a few hours... Is was a good thing I did, 'cos on the way back I had a major blowout, and anyone who has had one of their tyres half shredded while at around 80kph would know how difficult it is to steer the car at that point...
Who knows what would have happened if I had been in a less aware state...
 
anfalicious:
My main point is that so many people on this thread are getting all moralistic, but I bet most of you will be back in ur cars before summer is out.
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A serious question for you: Do you think it's immoral or just illegal to drink & drive?
Personally I hope that most people in this thread will NOT be back in their cars before summer is out. I certainly won't - EVER. It's not just an issue of posting here and feeling good about yourself - the point is actually understanding the issue at hand & wanting to do something about it.
CynaKill:
It's different from the whole taking drugs thing because of one big factor - it's not just your own life you're taking risks with when you get in the car.
There's nothing to figure about people taking drugs and driving - it's obvious that it happens - that's not the point! Sure, good, try to lessen the dangers of doing it - but why don't you try to lessen the number of people that do it? Even if it is only bluelighters and their related community that get this message, that may save one of your friend's lives. I know it's difficult, because you're never going to stop everyone from doing it, but c'mon, to throw in a cliché, the journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.
Personally I see the opinion that 'it's going to happen, so why try to stop it?' to be the easy way out. You should try to stop it, because for every single person that you convince to stop doing it - you have prevented numerous trips home – and even if that’s only a tiny percent of the total number, you *may* have just preserved a life - and I think that's worth the effort - even if it appears to be in vain. And I'm sure you would too if it was your dad. Go read the first post again.
 
Look I'm totally for the idea of finding different transport. I'm train/bussing Earthcrasher weekend, and am trying to get on the kryal bus.
I honestly believe that these days I never drive when I shouldn't be, yes I drive fatigued and slightly scattered, but I am always sure in myself that I can drive. The same goes that i can have a few beers and be under 0.05 and right to drive, or I can have one, be well under, and just not feel safe. I know you question my judgement for when I drive, but I dont, I trust my judgement implicately, and if I dont feel up to it, I dont drive, I sit in the car for a few hours, or go somewhere close and have a kip.
My main point, however, is the annoyingness of the moralistic way people in this thread have jumped on people who do drive scattered and have said they will never do it again, when we all know, lots will (not saying you will).
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anfalicious, sorry for jumping on people... but geeze... can you see that it's a bit of an important issue?? i know some of my posts sound moralistic, but i'm honestly not trying to be - sorry for souding that way... but I do think it is sort of based around your morals. Whatever the case, I'm sorry for crappy posts, but don't let personal issues of this thread get in the way of the real issue.
 
princess, my comments we're not directed at you per se, I can see you're really affected by this and I genuinely believe you'll never drive when you shouldnt again. What my problem was the other people jumping on your "moral bandwagon" who have no intention of practicing what they preach.
I used to do it all the time, tell ppl not to drive when they shouldn't, dont mix this drug and that, but I'd do it, then I thought, no screw it, I'm not gonna preach it if I dont practice it. All I preach now is people being careful.
What I'll say is this: People take careful notice of this thread, this isnt made up, this CAN happen. I'm not going to say you should never drive home after an event, as I do it, but please make sure you're 100% confident in your own mind that you are right to drive, and if there is even a shadow of a doubt, park it and go for a walk or have a sleep or something.
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You may all flame me for this one. But after a night out at a club of taking 1 pill, I see nothing wrong with driving home.
I am somewhat of an agressive driver when I'm straight, the day after a pill, I sit on the speed limit..or just under, and cruise, I'm somewhat of a safer driver.
It's not until I get home and have some bongs where I start to feel all unable to co-ordinate etc..
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Each to their own. I think it's upto the individual to make the choice. Personally I've never done anything stupid while under the influence of drugs, or after they've worn off.
 
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yeah that deserves a flame.
did you actually read the thread? are you incapable of understanding that being on drugs DOES impair your ability to drive? do you not see that this impairment in your ability to drive makes you a liability on the road? do you disagree that being the cause of an accident because of your own stupidity/selfishness is a bad thing?
some people on this board seem to have brains like a pile of damp sawdust. it's wet and kinda mushy, but there's fuck-all actual thought going on in there.
i dunno how long i can keep this up. nobody is invincible, however hard you try to kid yourself.
fuckers.
 
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