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Stimulants suggestions for safest downers for a comedown off stims?

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Ive basically been looking for the most natural option while also being strong enough to effectively encourage relaxation and sleep. I think weed is the best bet but its been a nuisance finding it now im not in contact with street level ppl. its more hasstle but i think probably worth the effort vs my other options. would prob be easy enough if i set my mind to it.

of course supplements like l-tyrosine and vitamins would be added liberally but they dont address the sleep/relaxation issue except indirectly.

Things ive been looking up so far:

rc cannabinoids- usual rc sketchiness plus terrifying dose/response curve. when im on a comedown i want something i dont have to worry about dosing which could easily set off a panic attack. so this one seems out of the question.

benzoes i hate- last too long feeling like a zombie.

alcohol- numbs the pain for a bit but despise the dehydration and how it fucks up my sleep- nod off then awake 30 mins later in a dehydrated delerium- ultimately making things worse.

codeine- the plus is its easily available but the od level scares me thus potentially causing panic (plus being an opiod and all that) when i just want to be able to switch off without having to worry about what ive taken.

phenibut- seemed right up my street for what i was after- awesome sleep without the drawbacks of benzoes, legal, cheap and easily available. then i saw the shockingly fast tolerance and withdrawal issues which put me right off again. id only want it for the 1st night after stims really but still the withdrawal shit made me think twice about this one.

so everything seems to have its drawbacks. altho weed would be harder to get im thinking it might be worth it since i can just blaze away to my heart's content really knowing how safe it is.

Any other suggestions? i doubt weed will be topped. as i said main criteria are safety threshold and availability. I tried a bunch of shit like valerian (disgusting) kava kava, l theanine and that bollox recently not on on a c-down from stims but just as general relaxers trying them individually when i was sober and they didnt do fuck all. kava did but for price/effect it isnt worth it plus it is not nice drinking so much of that gunk to get an effect. i got the waka grade as well but it only lasted like 30 mins to 1 hour. when im on a comedown it really pisses me off having to redose every 5 mins so that is a nono. maybe to top something else off but not alone. again weed here is ideal i reckon in terms of duration.
 
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benzos like xanax or etizolam. just dont let it become a habit. can end up with a wild monkey on your back
 
muscle relaxers? flexerill are easy to get scribed. soma are better, but still nothing great, will help you sleep tho for sure
 
he wants something thats not physically addictive. I believe weed would be your best bet and well worth the hassel if you can buy a large quantity at a time, thus making it less of a hassel. Maybe weed combined with kava or something every once in a while, and you could switch things up too to avoid tolerance or dependence.
 
short acting benzos (xanax, triazolam) or 1st generation anti-histamines. Just remember taking benzos everyday will make your whole life turn upside down

edit: z-drugs and other sleeping meds
 
weed ftw.

like i said i dont want to take some other (strong) chemical.

it was kind of a waste of time me posting since the fact that something that is going to be readily available would be widely documented on t'internet and if it wasnt i wouldnt want it anyhow. i do like to be thorough with my research tho mainly cos im a bit autistic :P.

weed ftw x2!

ye there is no problems about tolerance, i only take drugs a cpl times a year max and slowly tapering it off. a 20 bag would last me years! :D ive thrown away my last bag in the past since i dont like the effect of it otherwise as im a workaholic and dont like anything sullying my sobriety tho i am partial to a nice dopamine high to feel like a champ and get hornier than a bonobo in heat but it has been ruined in the past by not having a downer i felt comfortable with (poor planning and being left up shitcreek without a paddle and a heady week's worth of insomnia).
 
You would be surprised how well eating something eases a comedown.
So I guess if you smoke some weed to help with the appetite and then eat something (or drink a milkshake or just milk), you should ease the effects of the stimulant.
Not sure what stimulant you are talking about, but taking chelated magnesium doses before,during and after is said to be benificial too.

Then try and lie down with your eyes closed (i.e don't try "ride out" the comedown, take control of it).
 
Cannabis (esp. Indica), go jog a lap in the park or something and get your blood flowing (exhaust yourself basically, but don't push yourself so hard you hurt yourself), snacking, diphenhydramine/hydroxyzine/doxylamine/quetiapine (Benadryl, Atarax, Unisom2, Seroquel respectively).

If none of these works you could move onto Z-drugs (zolpidem, zopiclone, zaleplon etc) or short or intermediate acting benzodiazepines.
Also kava kava (pref fresh root). All these will produce dependence if overused
 
sekio said:
Cannabis (esp. Indica), go jog a lap in the park or something and get your blood flowing (exhaust yourself basically, but don't push yourself so hard you hurt yourself), snacking, diphenhydramine/hydroxyzine/doxylamine/quetiapine (Benadryl, Atarax, Unisom2, Seroquel respectively).

If none of these works you could move onto Z-drugs (zolpidem, zopiclone, zaleplon etc) or short or intermediate acting benzodiazepines.
Also kava kava (pref fresh root). All these will produce dependence if overused
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I agree with everything here, cannabis and benzo is the most effective, but all do fine
 
I don't find cannabis to be beneficial for coming off of stims....it makes my heart race wicked bad and adds to my anxiety. I think benzo would be your best bet. They are extremely safe (very hard to OD on by themselves), just avoid using them often as they are extremely addicting.
 
Honestly I think a strong dosage of Kratom 10-15 grams of Bali is good for a comedown. Bali is the sedating variant I have used Tricyclic antidepressant trazodone which has a sedativ effect too very effect.
Its a hynpotic antidepressant
&Flunitrazepam
 
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