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Suggestions for a 15-20 hit LSD Trip

does anyone have any information, or experience with serotonin saturation??

i'm curious how the mental and physical aspects of the trip would change if the LSD 'spills into another receptor site' after saturation of the serotonin.

i remember someone mentioning that it goes to the histamine, how does this effect the experience? is it like a totally different experience or LSD with an extra kick?
 
psilocybonaut said:
Do you think 13 hits would be more appropriate? Then I'll have 7 hits for another trip.

I am thinking of throwing some MDMA into the mixture somewhere. Would you guys recommend this on this high of a dose of LSD? Or should I just enjoy the LSD alone?

Should I just let the LSD take its course alone, or should i spice it up with any of these:
DMT (I'm probably already gonna do this)
5-meo-dmt
Ketamine
DPT
MDMA
4-aco-dmt

I'm thinking DMT, ketamine, and MDMA would be the prime choices if I was going to add a drug to it.

What dose of Ketamine (IM, out of vial) would you guys recommend if I decided to do it while tripping? Would you recommend I k-hole, or go for a lower dose?

You still have it. But you need to slow down. Do you really think there is any magic to be gained in that world you are pursuing. You may be well informed on the effects on psychedelixs, but you should really try to integrate previous experiences before trying to break boundries in someone elses name. You know that some "all is nothing" babble on this board is not gonna provide what you are looking for. God luck.
 
psilocybonaut said:
If ~1mg is the saturation point in your brain where psychic effects stop, why are thumbprints so so intense and effective?
Is it possible that at least some people doing this were so close to the source, hence having unrestricted availability, and being frequent users, had built up massive tolerance?

So the effects of the 'huge' dose was therefore diminished.
 
25 hits with no tolerance is a hefty dose to be sure, but it's far from unbelievable.
 
psilocybonaut said:
What dose of Ketamine (IM, out of vial) would you guys recommend if I decided to do it while tripping? Would you recommend I k-hole, or go for a lower dose?

i wouldn't recomend injecting ANYTHING on that much LSD.
 
I heard/read that LSD which has degraded (through oxidisation, heat, light...ect) converts into (I think what is called) LSD-Nor that works with dopamine rather than serotonin.

I am sure I have got atleast a few thing wrong there but is anyone aware of LSD convertion into another chemical when it is degraded?


edit: (re ket) 100mg in the glutes, if you feel you can handle it!
 
Degraded LSD isn't active. LSD works on dopamine as well as serotonin.
 
There are two isomers of interest here, in this context: The first is "iso-LSD" and it is 1) produced as a byproduct of the synthesis in crappy LSD syntheses and 2) produced by storing LSD in hot places and the like.
The second is "lumi-LSD", which is produced by light interacting with it and rearranging it, particularly ultraviolet light (because higher frequency light has more energy and so more potential for molecular destruction - why UV rays burn your skin).
Both are inactive.
 
Yup, they are. That why you should use them sparingly ;) .
I lol at youtube videos and the like of people holding up blacklights to their sheets of acid saying "look, LSD!" while i'm thinking "yes, disappearing...", hehe.
It's similar to how crystal LSD exhibits piezolumiscence... you shake it in total darkness and you get flashes of light. Cool, yes, but if you show that neak trick to all your friends, that crystal you have might not be nearly so good anymore ;) . That flash you see is energy being emitted from a chemical reaction.
 
^Will that work for blotter? And if so, will doing it once significantly reduce the potency of the blotter?
 
Naa, to significantly degrade your blotter you need to expose it for a decent amount of time - i'm not sure how long this is, but i'm sure a quick look under a blacklight won't degrade it noticeably.
 
Hmmm .....

Hey dude ... you were not even alive in the 70s - - you were born in 1980-something.


brodie said:
Hi, i have done 1000mcg many times in the early 70's. that's planty 15 hits enough i dont see why u would need 20. It is great. it doesnt hurt to have a close friend around at first to make sure youre handling it okay. Happy trails.
 
MattPsy said:
Yup, they are. That why you should use them sparingly ;) .
I lol at youtube videos and the like of people holding up blacklights to their sheets of acid saying "look, LSD!" while i'm thinking "yes, disappearing...", hehe.
It's similar to how crystal LSD exhibits piezolumiscence... you shake it in total darkness and you get flashes of light. Cool, yes, but if you show that neak trick to all your friends, that crystal you have might not be nearly so good anymore ;) . That flash you see is energy being emitted from a chemical reaction.

Is it? Most light producing 'things' are from promotion then emmission of a photon by an electron, which isn't a chemical reaction
 
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