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Peaceofnik

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I just did my first dose(not my first time) but this time I only waited 19 hours since my last Percocet. I only took .25 maybe. My question is, how do I know I won't go into PW if I take more? I still feel like shit. Need some help!
 
Hey man I have been in your boat with oxycodone (shorter half-life opiate) and methadone (much longer half-life opiate). You have been taking oxycodone. I would ask what your dose was but since it's been 19 hours AND you have already taken .25 it IS safe to say, and I get paranoid switching to sub about not waiting long enough, that you are very likely to be in the safe zone BUT for harm reduction purposes, start with taking another .25 now. Then an hour later take .5 more and another .5 an hour later. Then just add 1mg every 30 minutes until you are comfortable. What was your dose?
 
Hey Bruce! Thanks for responding and I did just that! It's been about 6 hours since I first took that .25. I had read another post that said to do what you just said. So I've taken in all probably about 2.5mg. I feel amazing. I'm just trying to not get freaking dependent on these things, which is super hard. I've been clean from H for almost 4 years and I really can't believe I broke my sobriety for some roxis and percs. It sucks. I've got a family and two kids that need me. I'm just trying to get out of the woods here and back to feeling clean and healthy. Any advice on how to taper? Is there a thread in here on it?
 
Different peoples experiences vary with this. A good rule of thumb is to not use bupe until you're experiencing mild-moderate WD symptoms, you can't really go wrong that way. But it's easier said than done. Personally - I find anything more than 6 hours from my last dose of heroin is fine. Another good rule of thumb is don't use it if you're feeling at all stoned!
 
I've never had a problem with taking subs when I am already feeling WD symptoms at a 6-7/10 on the scale of discomfort.

.25mg is an incredibly small dose. If you're that worried, just keep taking more in .25mg increments every 30 mins or so. You won't be sure that you won't go into precipitated withdrawal until you either do or 30 mins passes and you haven't.
 
I know this is slightly off topic but still sub related.... back when I was doing 1/2 g of dope a day n had a nice tolerance built up I decided one night I was WDin that Id shot a 1/4 strip to try and feel a little better til the dope man got back in the morning... needless to say this was the worst idea EVER... it sent me into the worst WD ive ever experienced and literally thought I was dieing... my whole abdomen was hurting in ways it never should, my legs were getting the "kicks" worse then Ive ever gotten them and a few hours later my eyes had a yellowish tint to them (yes I know what that ment and yes I do hep c and no it has never happened since and yes I have seen a doc since stopping dope) anyways with a few weeks clean now and getting that urge/ obsession to see blood shot into the rig, I mixed up the other 1/4 strip... since it had been sitting in an open sub pack (inside a ziplock) for about six months (and I got the strip a year ago) I wasnt even sure it still had any active "ingredients" in it, but I did it and it was 110% different... actually got a nice buzz off it and shit knocked me out... obviouslly it wasnt that dope buzz I really would of enjoyed but it was close enough lol... anyways hope this helps anyone who is thinking of trying this when there actually WDin, learn from my ignorance, just put that shit under your tounge and wait on you ppl to reup.
 
I have to wait 24 hours from my last use.

I have pwds 3 or 4 times from subs and it sucks. I would lose 10 lbs in a day. I had a heavy morphine habit though.

I really hate subs. I think it is best to use as little as possible and not maintain on it. I did have an rx for it and took it for months once and it was horrid.

I think 1 or 2 strips is enough for me to kick if need be. I personally would rather get the wds over with than to prolong them with a drug that makes you feel like shit.

Opiophile has a great suboxone guide. I think their taper is a bit too long but than again I would rather just ask my doctor for muscle relaxers, clonodine, and promethazine and then take immodium, dxm and tylenol.

OP I really recommend opiophile's sub guide because I used it and it helped me. I really shouldn't promote another site but that guide is good.
 
I was definitely okay. Nothing happen. Things only got better but Pill_billy those are those same pw. They are hell I hear. Never experienced that before. Now I have a new problem. Getting off the fucking subs.
 
dopemaster said:
I have to wait 24 hours from my last use.

I have pwds 3 or 4 times from subs and it sucks. I would lose 10 lbs in a day. I had a heavy morphine habit though.

I really hate subs. I think it is best to use as little as possible and not maintain on it. I did have an rx for it and took it for months once and it was horrid.

I think 1 or 2 strips is enough for me to kick if need be. I personally would rather get the wds over with than to prolong them with a drug that makes you feel like shit.

Opiophile has a great suboxone guide. I think their taper is a bit too long but than again I would rather just ask my doctor for muscle relaxers, clonodine, and promethazine and then take immodium, dxm and tylenol.

OP I really recommend opiophile's sub guide because I used it and it helped me. I really shouldn't promote another site but that guide is good.
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Thank you! I will check it out. Like I said. Now I gotta get off these damn things.
 
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