Suboxone Withdrawals

[allover]

Ugg.....starting to feel that oh so familiar feel of withdrawing from heroin, but I'm trying to get off of suboxone. Feels the same at least at this stage.

Been on 16mg suboxone a day for 2 months. I switched down to 8mg (a day) a month ago for 2 weeks just fine. Then I switched to 1/4 of a pill a day for 1 week. This past week I've done 1/4 of a pill every other day without feeling too bad. I took a quarter of a pill (8mg) early Saturday morning and haven't dosed since then. Starting to get sniffles, sore, lack of energy, and just feel like shit. I don't want to dose again as I want to get off of suboxone. Someone please tell me this is as bad as it's gonna get unlike with heroin withdrawals.

 

[StartedHydro]

i just got off of suboxone myself. I was on it for about 4 months. I started off with 16 mg a day then 8 mg then 2 mg then .25 every other day. I felt a little wds mostly stomach related but nothing as bad as full blown agaiinst. You might need to talk to your doc and say you need to jump off at a lower dose. Just remember you get nothing free in life... You will always have wds if your on opiates for to long.

 

[johanneschimpo]

You need to taper to a smaller amount before totally stopping. Like from where you were at 1/4 of a pill daily.... then go to 1/8 of a pill for a week, then 1/16 of a pill for a week. Something along those lines.

The withdrawal can last for weeks, so its really best to taper. Done right, you won't even lose a night of sleep.

 

[sixpartseven]

2mg is still a pretty high dose to jump off at.

Id taper it down further, as JC has said. At least to 1mg. .5mg would be even better.

 

[FrostyMcFailure]

damn this foreshadowing of suxy w/d pains.

 

[allover]

Ya I ended up breaking down and taking 1/2 an 8mg pill. I've got work tomorrow, and thought that I would be able to get through it, even if I felt kinda crummy, but the withdrawals were getting worse and worse as every hour passed.

I think I will call my doc and get some of the 2mg pills as trying to cut and 8mg pill into 1/16th would be damn tricky. Thats VERY nice to hear that I will possibly be able to virtually not lose a nights sleep over getting off of suboxone. I've been trying to do it on my own (i.e. with no advice from Doc). I just figured since I was able to keep on halfing my dose with no real withdrawals I would be able to quit pretty easily, but boy was I wrong. Much thanks for all the advice everyone.

 

[Niandra LaDes]

ive never tried actually WDing from bupe, since i jump back and forth from it, to dope, to drink, to other shit every other day or so, and have no real consistency here in my useage patterns, but ive taperred off of it enough times to know that i can go from 4-16mg a day(doesnt matter how much really, if it does the trick for me) down to half that the next day, then repeat, and i can even lapse on dosing at all. for instance i took 12mg two days ago, none yesterday, just some somas to deal with the pains, on top of weed and beer, and today i took probably less than 4mg bupe and maybe .75mg of xanax with a couple beers and i feel fine. i could skip tomorrows dose entirely, whether or not i get doped out. once you get used to the pain, skipping a day isnt really a big deal.

 

[Hana]

I would do as "johanneschimpo" says to do.
That sounds like the most painless and best route to take.
Good Luck with this.
It is extremely hard coming off of anything related to Methadone, Bup/Subutex or Suboxone.
But Methadone is much harder, so maybe that way of looking it and knowing that you CAN do this will make things easier? That it could be methadone you are coming off of..it's not, so you CAN do this.
Keep at it.
Please .
All the best to you.
All the Best, PM me if you ever need a shoulder, an ear or advice.
I just know, I've been where most people have been, ya know? I've been in withdsrawals so many times, it's unreal (all from opiates) now m,ethadone is my problem.
I need to get off of it finally.
I am in hell on it.
SoI am with you in spirit.
You are not alone.

Peace,
Hana

 

[sonic]

I haven't been through suboxone withdrawal yet myself, but it's supposed to be long lasting and not TOO severe, although I'm sure it still REALLY sucks. All opiate withdrawal does, especially the potential psychological withdrawal effects. Sometimes during w/d I get anxiety attacks so bad I can't even leave my house. I never get that bad under normal circumstances or even in times of stress.

It sounds like you were getting withdrawal effects about as bad as you were going to, but you'll have to tough it out for a full 2 weeks at least if you want to get off suboxone. Good luck!

 

[smackem]

Suboxone withdrawl isnt that bad. YOu don't feel like your soul is empty.

Your just kinda sick for a few days.

 

[StartedHydro]

to be honest the wds from bupe were very very mild to be honest. I hardly felt them and if i did i would drink a small amount of poppy seed tea to help me sleep. Done right this is a very easy med to get off!

 

[lib.sOCialist]

Just as johanneschimpo stated, and in IMO as well, your best bet to get through Suboxone WD's is to taper down to a very small amount and then try and cold turkey from that. I have had experience with this and i got down to a 1/16th of the pill (the N8's) before i stopped all use. GL with abstaining

 

[Carl Landrover]

Getting the 2mg ones is really the way to go when tapering down/tapering off. It would obviously be easier to get off of 1mg than 2mg, and easier to get off .5mg than 1mg.

It takes some getting used to, but I actually felt better (in some ways) as I was tapering off of suboxone. I started eating a bit more, if I felt happy it felt more natural, as if it was coming from inside, got a HUGE increase in sex drive, which continued to go on until I was off. I didn't think subs messed with the sex drive as much as dope, but when I was getting off it, damn! Woulda fucked any girl within reaching distance.

 

[chicpoena]

2mg is a HUGE amount to jump off of. You should ask your doctor for the 2mg ones, Carl Landrover is totally right about that. They're a lot easier to use when measuring small amounts. When I finally quit suboxone I was only taking 0.2mg a day and the withdrawal was practically non-existant. Mild chills, minor diarrhea and waves of anxiety was about it.

 

[johanneschimpo]

You don't absolutely need the 2mg pills to measure out a small dose. Dissolving an 8mg pill in a small amount of water and dosing with a measured syringe would do the job just as well. Just keep the amount of water very low so you can still dose under your tongue and not have too much liquid in there. (8mg in 1-2mL perhaps)

 

[sixpartseven]

^ sound advice.

 

[allover]

Much thanks for the support Hana, I need it. Certainly no offense to you, but you have listed the very reasons why I decided not to get on methadone in the first place (plus having to show up to a clinic most every day to get your dose). You are in my thoughts as well.

Since I'm too busy with full time job and part time consulting business now that I'm off of heroin I'm just going to go to Doc and get some 2mg pills so I don't have to fuck with breaking pills into 1/16th or diluting them with water. However, that very good advice, and I will be doing the same thing, just to lazy to deal with measuring out minute amounts of suboxone with what little free time I have these days.

I also would like to have some fun with my 8mg subs every now and again once I've been off them for a while and have no tolerance. I can guarantee that I will not even do them every other day when I have no tolerance as the last thing I want to happen is to get physically hooked on them again. They'll just be fun to use every now and then until what I have runs out.

This thread rules, and appears like it will keep me from having to miss at least 3 days of work going through semi-intense withdrawals. Again, much thanks all.

I would do as "johanneschimpo" says to do.
That sounds like the most painless and best route to take.
Good Luck with this.
It is extremely hard coming off of anything related to Methadone, Bup/Subutex or Suboxone.
But Methadone is much harder, so maybe that way of looking it and knowing that you CAN do this will make things easier? That it could be methadone you are coming off of..it's not, so you CAN do this.
Keep at it.
Please .
All the best to you.
All the Best, PM me if you ever need a shoulder, an ear or advice.
I just know, I've been where most people have been, ya know? I've been in withdsrawals so many times, it's unreal (all from opiates) now m,ethadone is my problem.
I need to get off of it finally.
I am in hell on it.
SoI am with you in spirit.
You are not alone.

Peace,
Hana

 

[bagochina]

I have been on Bupe for 6-7-8 yrs now, I have got off it once at doses of .5 stable than down to .25 skip a day, try to stabilize on .25, skip a day or 2, etc. load up on detox meds and go fo it.

If you jump off to high you will hurt a bit, .25mg or .5mg stable on that dose for at least 2-3 weeks than miss days than jump off with ddetox meds.

SIMPLE eh...?

Peace,
Seedless

 

[Alephnul]

Much thanks for the support Hana, I need it. Certainly no offense to you, but you have listed the very reasons why I decided not to get on methadone in the first place (plus having to show up to a clinic most every day to get your dose). You are in my thoughts as well.

Since I'm too busy with full time job and part time consulting business now that I'm off of heroin I'm just going to go to Doc and get some 2mg pills so I don't have to fuck with breaking pills into 1/16th or diluting them with water. However, that very good advice, and I will be doing the same thing, just to lazy to deal with measuring out minute amounts of suboxone with what little free time I have these days.

I also would like to have some fun with my 8mg subs every now and again once I've been off them for a while and have no tolerance. I can guarantee that I will not even do them every other day when I have no tolerance as the last thing I want to happen is to get physically hooked on them again. They'll just be fun to use every now and then until what I have runs out.

This thread rules, and appears like it will keep me from having to miss at least 3 days of work going through semi-intense withdrawals. Again, much thanks all.

I hear what you’re saying about thinking of keeping a stash of 8mg tabs to take when you’re clean but if you’re on bupe its because you’ve been addicted to opiates, no one taking opiates intends to get hooked, I can say from personal experience that keeping that stash ‘for when I’m clean, to have fun every now and then’ is playing with fire. The number of times I detoxed from codeine, DHC etc, and kept a stash for ‘occasional’ use when I’m clean, and slowly, almost imperceptibly slipped back in to addiction, then dependence. You might be different and can genuinely have a controlled habit, but my view is ‘once an addict, always an addict’, a stash poses not only the problem of tempting you whilst going through WDs, but leaving a road wide open for you slip back into addiction. Your call, you know yourself best, just saying my experience is that post-WD stashing is bad news.

AN

 

[allover]

So i filled up the script for 2mg pills today. I'm kinda pissed that the pills are so small, i thought they would be the same size as the 8mg pills but just have 2mg in them. Meaning that it would be easier to cut the pill and measure out 1mg, 0.5mg, etc. Oh well, not the end of the world, just a slight pain in the ass. Time to starting cutting down the dose, wish me luck.