Opioids suboxone to hydrocodone recreational doses?

[tomatalli]

Okay so some background bout 7 weeks ago i was addicted to heroin snorting around .5-1 bundle a day. So from the oral opioid conversion chart i found that 10mg or hydrocodone = .25mg sublingual buprenorphine. I also know that sublingual has a 30% B/A and intranasal has about a 50% so lets say .15mg snorted bupe = 10mg oral hydro. Last week i got my hands on suboxone and after reading through some forums found out that snorting was the best way to go for recreation.
So the first night i snorted 8mgs and got completely sick, 2 days later i did 4mg and the next night 4mg and found that to be around the sweet spot. So im trying to figure out what dose of oral hydrocodone would give me the same amount of euphoria as 4-5mg of bupe , any help is greatly appreciated I feel like my calculations however dont matter because of the fact that bupe is known to not be as euphoric as traditional opioids.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

If you have a tolerance to opiates.. even a moderate one.. bupe is not going to provide you with a great deal of euphoria. You'd be better off just sticking with the hydrocodone.. you will not get the same feeling out of the two of those drugs.

 

[mustangsally24]

Not true^. Long tolerance break and u can still feel bupe euphoria

 

[tomatalli]

Thanks for the replys^. Sorry maybe i worded my opening question wrong. If i had a moderate tolerance to a much stronger opiate(heroin) and took a 7 week break then tried suboxone for 3 days then wait another week or two whaf is your best guess of how many mgs of hydrocodone to take while still being safe? Ive only tried hydrocodone onxe befote and that was when i was sick during withdrawals, i took about 62.5mg CWE'd and cant really remember if i was high or not. Do you guys think 20mgs would be safe and produce euphoria and a nod?

 

[SteeleyJ]

You need to maKe sure you haven't taken bupe for the last 72 hours before you dose hydrocodone, it will block the effects of hydrocodone. You can start off with 20mg but you won't get a nod.... but maybe a slight euphoria. I would personally start off around 35-40mg hydrocodone after having a heroin and then a bupe habit. You also haveto take into consideration that bupe will not have a complete cross tolerance with other opioid drugs.

 

[tokenname]

You need to maKe sure you haven't taken bupe for the last 72 hours before you dose hydrocodone

^^that.

from what i understand:
1mg bupe = ~15mg. hydro

 

[Mass08]

Suboxone's agonist properties will have a cross tolerance with all other agonist opiates.

 

[tomatalli]

So all i have is 30mg of hydrocodone 6 5/500s. Also to steeley j I dont think using bupe for 3 days is considered a habit is it? Ive only used it 3 times. What could i take to maybe increase the high? Im thinking benedryl and tums?