Skywave18
Bluelighter
Will suboxone take away any heroin withdrawls if u take it they days u dont have any dope and start withdrawling?
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Heroin Suboxone take away dope-sick?
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Slum Survivor
Bluelighter
thats not entirely true... it depends on how many times u switch back and forth from subs and dope. the more u switch back and forth the harder it is to make the switch.
most people i know who are fairly suboxone naive can take one ONCE THEY ARE ACTUALLY SICK (very important to wait until sick to take sub) and they will feel much much better. in fact someone i know just took their first suboxone ever the other day when they didnt have any of their DOC. he waited until he was in moderately severe W/D to take it. he said it gave him more relief than he even expected.
when i first started playing with suboxone a few years back it used to feel much stronger to me. the first day i would take it, it would actually help pretty much all of the W/D symptoms.
lots of variables.
most folks dont have to wait that long to get W/D relief tho.
most people i know who are fairly suboxone naive can take one ONCE THEY ARE ACTUALLY SICK (very important to wait until sick to take sub) and they will feel much much better. in fact someone i know just took their first suboxone ever the other day when they didnt have any of their DOC. he waited until he was in moderately severe W/D to take it. he said it gave him more relief than he even expected.
when i first started playing with suboxone a few years back it used to feel much stronger to me. the first day i would take it, it would actually help pretty much all of the W/D symptoms.
lots of variables.
most folks dont have to wait that long to get W/D relief tho.
^Well yes of course there are plenty of variables. If you shoot 4+ grams of decent stuff a day, it might not even touch your withdrawals for a few days. The longer you suck it up and wait the better it will help, too. But I still don't think there is any way you are feeling 100% from the Subs. I also believe it helps better with oxycodone than with heroin. OC is more similar to Subs than H.
I also have messed around with it too much and it works less now. But I feel when I was using OC as a DOC, it would help a lot. Once I switched to H I suffer through a kinda crappy 12-24 hours after taking the fist Sub, then it really starts to help. For the first week it even is an enjoyable change of pace, but thats my problem with it, after a week that enjoyment fades and I start craving like crazy each day more and more.
I also have messed around with it too much and it works less now. But I feel when I was using OC as a DOC, it would help a lot. Once I switched to H I suffer through a kinda crappy 12-24 hours after taking the fist Sub, then it really starts to help. For the first week it even is an enjoyable change of pace, but thats my problem with it, after a week that enjoyment fades and I start craving like crazy each day more and more.
InHerOwnWrite
Bluelighter
I will agree with poster above me, when i try to stop doing h i feel terrible the first day i'm on sub no matter how long i wait and let myself withdraw. It used to be much easier and the sub would make me feel better right away, but after years of trying to get clean and bouncing back n forth from h to sub the transition day is awful. I'm dreading it right now as i'm giing to try n switch AGAIN tomorrow for the fucking thousandth time in my life. Sigh. It really feels incredibly difficult n depressing every damn time. I need to go cry now.
BlueberryfishY
Bluelighter
if you take it after you have used heroin and you are in withdrawal it will take it away.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
It depends on the user and their tolerance, etc.
However, if you keep going back and forth between using and suboxone, eventually, the suboxone starts to work less and less. It becomes a lot harder to transition onto the suboxone after one has gone back and forth many times.
It is not made for what you're describing, using it the random days you don't have dope. It won't work like that.
In the beginning, it will work.. if you're sick and you take some, you'll be fine... but then once you decide to quit for good and really need it, it will not work, because like I said, switching back and forth fucks with your receptors and it becomes 10x harder to get on the suboxone.
However, if you keep going back and forth between using and suboxone, eventually, the suboxone starts to work less and less. It becomes a lot harder to transition onto the suboxone after one has gone back and forth many times.
It is not made for what you're describing, using it the random days you don't have dope. It won't work like that.
In the beginning, it will work.. if you're sick and you take some, you'll be fine... but then once you decide to quit for good and really need it, it will not work, because like I said, switching back and forth fucks with your receptors and it becomes 10x harder to get on the suboxone.
The past two times i took sub I was in wd's for 3-4 days cold turkey before i took it and it INSTANTLY made me feel 100%. usually id be going months straight ever day dope and coke use and id wait 24 to36 hours to dose sub and i dfeel fucking DEATHLYL ill the 1st day, by lday 3 id feel pretty good.
Ive realized that those 1st two days are basically as bad as colt turkey. so i cold turkey it now for a solid 3 days then dose subs lately and it works pretty good.
If you only use a few days here and there you wd's miht be over in 5 days ct as it is. I was using evert day for about 2 years and sporadically before that (back and forth on h and sub and h and mdone). Even with that heavy use after 3 days cold turkey, 5 days on sub, then 5 days off sub the sickness was like 70% gone at day 14.
Ive realized that those 1st two days are basically as bad as colt turkey. so i cold turkey it now for a solid 3 days then dose subs lately and it works pretty good.
If you only use a few days here and there you wd's miht be over in 5 days ct as it is. I was using evert day for about 2 years and sporadically before that (back and forth on h and sub and h and mdone). Even with that heavy use after 3 days cold turkey, 5 days on sub, then 5 days off sub the sickness was like 70% gone at day 14.
lostandnotfound
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I found sub helpfull with withdraw.
mrflowers00
Ex-Bluelighter
i was able to on one occasion able to feel next to no wds the first day of subs but usually i have to wait till the 4th day on subs to feel that effect
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
Yeah. If you have a large habit and have been using for a long time consecutively, the transition to bupe can be really rough.