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Bupe Suboxone (my plan) Help?

Loperamide = immodium. Yep, its a basic, OTC opiate. It has opiate effects (similar to Darvocet but far longer lasting) when taken at doses way, way, way above the recommended dose, which is 2mg. it actually causes some euphoria, but for some reason it takes a while to "adjust" to the drugs effects before the euphoria is noticed. I didn't feel euphoria from it until maybe the tenth time I took it. The euphoria is subtle but very real. It makes it so I can't shut the fuck up, and gives me good energy.

The first few times I took it, the loperamide hit me within 15 minutes and made my eyes real red and my body incredibly dehydrated. it wasn't recreational - but better than WD's. After my body adjusted to it, the effect wouldn't begin until about 2 hours after dosing, and thats when I started liking it and noticing the mood lift.

Its pretty extensively covered on opiate forums across the internet, and it always ends up in an argument about whether lope crosses the BBB or not (I'm 100% certain it does), so I'll rest the point before that happens.

If you take 2mg of suboxone a day and experience no withdrawals upon cessation then I wish I was you! i once tapered down to 0.2mg a day (which caused more euphoria then 16mg a day, oddly) and still experienced prolonged withdrawals upon stopping. It wasn't ejectile vomiting, spinning-headed-baby on the ceiling type withdrawals - but I felt incredibly exhausted, depressed and weak. But I also got on it when I was 18 and stayed on it for nearly four years.

Its been a month since I stopped the taper, and therefore a month that I haven't used opiates, and I'm starting to feel good again. At first I would wake up in the morning and wonder how the hell I was going to get out of bed without narcotics.

I'm not walking on sunshine now, but I feel incredibly proud of myself and am beggining to catch myself in good moods on a daily basis.
 
I dont think there is any point in taking this "lopermamide"....it may be an opiate but it doesnt effect the central nervous system, meaning it cant get you "high" like other opiates.

Seems kind of pointless to me. Anyways, im not looking for anything to add to my suboxone doses. Nothing potenetiaties suboxone except another opiate like tramadol or something(of course only in low dose suboxone)
 
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Loperamide is not expensive at all. I can buy 400 pills for $16, as can anyone that lives near the largest whole sale store in the US.

So my entire detox cost me less than $35, and I avoided almost all of the withdrawals. Many people will be un-open to the idea since "lope doesn't cross the bbb" - but I hope this helps at least one person out. I wish i had read about the lope taper years ago - it could have saved me from having almost no sex drive all through my late teens and the beggining of my 20's (no sex drive being the kicker that made me want off the subs).

Loperamide does cross the BBB, and will cause CNS depressent effects to anybody that takes a large enough dose (imho). The only difference between it and other opiates is that it causes constipation far below "recreational" doses. I once went from a 200mg a day oxy habit (daily for six months) to 120mg of loperamide a day for six days and experienced NO WD's at all. Even the mental aspect of the WD's were completely eliminated.

I actually find loperamide to be more addictive than tramadol and kratom, and I actually like both of those. But like I said, it takes quite a few tries before you start feeling the good side of it. One user on here said that a few years ago, and its completely true.

I believe that every single person that says lope does not work has simply never tried it before in large enough doses. I'm not encouraging people to abuse it, only discussing my experience with it.

Happy trails!
 
jamesBrown said:
I had a few different scams I would run but the last one I did that me and my friend did for about 14 months all the way up until I quit and got on suboxone......

I go to a BIG store like HEB, WalMart, Costco, etc.....and find receipts outside in the parking lots on the ground, or in trash cans, or even ask people for there receipts....and pick out the receipts that...
1.)were paid in cash and/or debit
2.)have high priced items on them...

....then you go into the store with a receipt from that store, grab the expensive items that are on the receipt off the shelves(again) and take them to the "return center" or "business center"...and say you want to return those items. They will ask you for a receipt, you give it to them. Most stores have a policy that they dont check/scan your ID if you have the receipt when during a return. And as long as it was paid in debit/cash.....you get cash back.....or in my case....just get cash(not back cuz i never paid for anything).

Do that as many times as you need until you have enough money to score dope for you and your friend(about 2-6 returns a day).....then go get high. It is actually much more complicated then that because you have to take into consideration which stores you have gone to recently and who works at each store and who recognizes you and who doesnt, and when you can go to a certain store...etc....we even knew the work schedules of some of the employees of the stores we went to the most often because those particular employees knew about our scam because we returned items so often, so it would benefit us to know when they would be there and when they wouldnt.

Also....we never had to steal anything because we never left the store with it....so technically its not stealing....its fraud I guess but theres a kind of loophole in the legal system there.
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I can't believe someone else mentioned that scam. I used to do this nonstop when I worked at a Walmart hahahahahaha. But to get back on topic, you'd really be amazed at how low a suboxone dose you can use and not get withdrawals. I've personally never taken more than 4mg at once and usually 2mg was more than enough to get me through about 20-24 hours before I started getting symptoms again.
 
yup, the lower the dose you take, the more the norbuprenorphine binds to your receptors....giving you euphoria and analgesia.
 
a pill cutter for what pill? suboxone??

i doubt that would work well....suboxone is designed to dissolve in your mouth so its a very "crumbly" pill. the only effective way that I have found to cut it into correct(small) doses, is to crush it into powder, and then divide up the powder into piles equally.
 
SkagKush said:
ya i didnt think it would, those cutters r like 15 bucks!
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what???!!....they gave my mom a free one at the pharmacy when she picked up her prescription because the script involved taking only "half a pill". It was like they HAD to give her the pillcutter to make sure she dosed correctly.
 
weird, ya i am at the pharm every day now. i looked at the price tag at london drugs.
 
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