I am currently on .125 milligrams of Suboxone I have been slowly taping and I have plenty left at this dose. Can I try taking some red Menga kratom? I have the capsules. 2.4 g per four capsules. I have no idea how to titrate.. can anyone give me any suggestions? Should I try jumping off at this point of the Suboxone? Will kratom being able to get away the restlessness?
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Hey there! When I was getting off of heroin, I weigh 130lbs and I took 9 Grams twice a day, (more or less depending on your weight) in a shake with water honey and a little sugar. Took me 5 days and I was off heroin! I took the red strain which is known to sedate in large doses.i experienced no withdrawals whatsoever and I was using heroin nonstop for years. If you're looking to sleep through your withdrawals, use the red strain. If you need to stay awake for whatever reason, use the white strain! Best of luck to you.
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That is a very low dose of sub, normally buprenorphine will block the effects of any other opioids, however when you get down to a low dose it is possible to get over the bup.
I know kratom is not an actual opiate/opioid but it still acts on the receptor that suboxone/buprenorphine will block.
If it were me I think I would jump off the sub at the dose you have managed to get down to, then I would use the kratom to mitigate the wd from the sub.
You are down to such a low dose of sub I think the wd would be relatively mild and you should get good relief using the kratom.
I know kratom is not an actual opiate/opioid but it still acts on the receptor that suboxone/buprenorphine will block.
If it were me I think I would jump off the sub at the dose you have managed to get down to, then I would use the kratom to mitigate the wd from the sub.
You are down to such a low dose of sub I think the wd would be relatively mild and you should get good relief using the kratom.
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I unfortunately relapsed when trying to get off Suboxone. I was taking less than the tip of a pencil lead once a day and after 2 days of not having subs, the withdrawal was insane. (Not as bad as the crap H that’s out there now but still horrible) I ended up back on H trying to get some sort of relief. Now that I’ve relapsed, I can’t for the life of me get back on subs. I waited 4 days of excruciating wd’s to take my first dose of Suboxone, just to make the withdrawals WORSE! I’m going to try to use Kratom to get off this stuff next. I wanted to try the “Bernese method” but after my last experience with subs, idk. But I don’t know the first thing about kratom, that’s y I’m here… searching for answers. Just wanted to share my experience with jumping off Suboxone at such a low dose!
If I were you, I would not try incorporating the Kratom into what you're doing. I really feel it is only going to mess up you're progress. You have done a great job getting to a relatively stable place with your Buprenorphine dosing. I would recommend either titrating further to an even lower dose or otherwise just jumping off right now. I would advise using comfort medications like Gabapentin (Neurontin), Pregabalin (Lyrica), Cannabis, Clonidine or what have you.
I believe you likely only have a few days of discomfort to contend with. A few days of Gabapentin would probably help you get through this way better than trying to incorporate different Opioids. If you have questions about how/where to get these things or how to use them, let me know. Also, if you need help with volumetric dosing, we can help you with that too. It could help you reduce your Buprenorphine to incredibly small dosages.
I believe you likely only have a few days of discomfort to contend with. A few days of Gabapentin would probably help you get through this way better than trying to incorporate different Opioids. If you have questions about how/where to get these things or how to use them, let me know. Also, if you need help with volumetric dosing, we can help you with that too. It could help you reduce your Buprenorphine to incredibly small dosages.
A buddy tapered really long and low.
Was taking 2mg/0.5mg dissolving in water in a 3ml glue applicating soft tip syringe. 3ml could give accurate dosage to.08. (25 hash marks)
Then he switched to 1ml syringe. With 1/4 of a 2mg in it.
He was down to 1/64 or 1/128 of a 2mg
Every other day and said it was seemless.
No yawns watery eyes nothing.
It takes time!!
Bup is one of the strongest opioids. There’s just little euphoria and a low ceiling. Once you get to 4,8,16 mgs it has diminishing returns for effects.
That’s why people say 2mg and you’re just getting started on the real weaning.
I post a new thread about Suboxone.
Please read it and give me insight.
I need help.
Was taking 2mg/0.5mg dissolving in water in a 3ml glue applicating soft tip syringe. 3ml could give accurate dosage to.08. (25 hash marks)
Then he switched to 1ml syringe. With 1/4 of a 2mg in it.
He was down to 1/64 or 1/128 of a 2mg
Every other day and said it was seemless.
No yawns watery eyes nothing.
It takes time!!
Bup is one of the strongest opioids. There’s just little euphoria and a low ceiling. Once you get to 4,8,16 mgs it has diminishing returns for effects.
That’s why people say 2mg and you’re just getting started on the real weaning.
I post a new thread about Suboxone.
Please read it and give me insight.
I need help.
You can easily get off of Suboxone at that dose. I did it a couple times and it really wasn't that bad at all. Only some insomnia for like a week or two restless legs tiny bit.
I have stopped using it, but I was taking 70h with my buprenorphine 2 mg and I was feeling the 70h for probably almost the first month I took it then I felt nothing because I was using it too often.