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Suboxone, Kratom, and Mild Tolerance

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bpayne

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Okay Bluelighters heres the current situation. I have a mild tolerance to opiates, I've used Tramadol up to 20 pills a day for the last year. I recently got off of the Trams last month. I has a been taking kratom recently though, I quite enjoy the effects, Reminds me a lot of tramadol by the way but with stronger opiate affects. Anyways, a buddy dropped by last night and gave me a 2mg suboxone tablet to try. Me being the Me that I always am, I did lots of Research. I found mixed reviews, ranging from it being Super strong and overpowering to it being virtually useless recreationally. I was on Kratom last night, but this morning I crushed up the sub, and snorted a TINY bump, a few minutes later just a slight drowsy feeling, so a little while later I took a small line, the effects became apparant, slightly speedy and a little "off", semi euphoric but not super awesome or anything. I want to take it easy as I don't want to overdo it, but I at least want to feel the fucker,. to give an Idea of my tolerance to Regular opiates, 30 mg of hydrocodone gets me feeling Really Really good. I could probably take 40 mg throughout the day and want more. but thats about it. so I'm asking. how much of this 2mg Sub should I snort for really good effects? I don't want to end up vomiting for 2 days, but I also want it to kick in nice and not waste it. also Is snorting this sub gonna mean that I can't take my Kratom for a few days? or will it be fine to resume my regular kratom usage tomorrow or even later tonight?
Thanks for reading and responding Friends!
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I have a decent tolerance to opiates, but not to opioids, it seems. I insufflated 4mg of suboxone the other day off baseline, and got a bit too high. It was nice, but I did not nod and got way too speedy within a couple hours. I did not get ill though. You should be all right on 2mg, I imagine. If you want to be careful, just snort half of it, wait a while and go from there.
 
yeah, I've been bumping tiny amounts nowhere near half in a line, almost think I'm being "too safe" but I'm wondering about the Kratom interaction and if the Naloxone will prevent me from Using my Kratom as usual for the next few days?
 
Naloxone is pretty much inactive in suboxone. It doesn't do anything in regards to preventing people getting high, the bupe does that. And when you shoot suboxone, the naloxone is irrelevant as well.

And, just because you bump your own post 1200 times, doesn't mean your questions will be answered faster. Sometime these forums are fast, and sometimes it's slow, so give it time, I mean it's been like a hour or so since you asked. Not too mention may posters are from across the pond, so that plays into forum speed as well, so just chill a bit.
 
No doubt, but do you think that it will interfere with doing Kratom?
 
I would think that it might have some blocking effects on the Kratom. The kratom can cross over to the mu receptor, and if thats the case, the suboxone will already be attached to those, which would indeed cause the kratom to be blocked.

However, Kratom doesn't specifically target the mu receptor, and nor does it need to attach to it to get all the effects, and if that's the case, then no, the suboxone won't have an effect on it.

Someone more versed in Kratom will eventually chime in, so take my info with a grain of salt until someone confirms or corrects me, but I think I'm correct.
 
I do not think that the naloxone or buprenorphine will block out the effects of kratom at all.
 
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yo my buddy who got a sub too, snorted like a quarter of it and has been throwing up all day, he also took an ativan with it, and I told him not too but he did, is he in any danger? is there a possibility I'll throw up? I've been fine so far
 
Just mind your dose, man. I am shocked with how strong suboxone is, even with people who have high tolerances.

I am not certain if your friend is in danger from taking ativan with suboxone. Obviously if he is sick he is overdosing on some level.
 
yeah, I've seen people yell up and down that subs don't get you high, and I have to say that is BS to the highest degree, It's had me quite good for the whole day, and my boy was so fucked up he was Puking, he gave the rest of his pill to someone else who ate half of that( a quarter) and now they are Puking. I've been doing little bumps up the nosehole all day and had no problems. but my bumps have been Tiny. I'd say I've got about half of the 2 mg pill left judging by the pile of powder still there. it's kept me going all day , In fact I believe I've had enough for the day and am saving the other half for 2morrow. just finished eating some Papa Johns and playing with my daughter, now I'm ready for some rest. There is really not much of a chance of respiratory depression on these is there? I was just reading a pubmed report saying that Children under 6 accidently dosed up to 8 mg and were fine after some hospital treatment and none of them have any fatalities reported. but anyways This was a good pill, I wouldn't want it all the time though because I can tell it can be extremely Habit forming and due to the Long half life(36 hours) the withdrawals would probably be a few months long instead of a week or so, so NO thanks on that. But yeah my tolerance is probably 30-40 mg hydrocodone to feel great, and I've been taking Kratom everyday and just come off a year long tramadol binge, so I wouldn't say I'm exactly opiate Niave but I sure don't have a massive tolerance. Either way I got a damn good high off of these, I cleaned my whole damn house today, so the misses was happy as well, suppose we all win lol. coincidentally my boy who was puking all day from eating a piece of his sub, said the feeling reminded him of the one time he tried heroin. and that time he ended up puking for like 12 hours as well. what do ya'll think about that? is there really any resemblance to H? I've never done it so I don't know
Peace
B pizzle
 
hardy harhar! my bad mack, you can close this if you want bud, I suppose my questions have been successfully answered, just playing around a bit.
thanks again
B
 
Every person who reads this thread yet fails to reply concedes ownership of 1/10th of their soul to me.... Let the riches roll in............muahahahahahahahaha
 
Lol sounds like ur pretty high to me ;) haha k so I'm on sub maintenance with a moderate to high tolerance. 2 weeks ago I missed my doc appt n ordered sum kratom. It totally got rid of my w/d. Now I'm back on subs and I tried the kratom but it's a different strain (started w/ Bali now it's indo) both powder n the indo doesn't do shit even at doses around 11-12 teaspoons. I suspect a bad batch of kratom so I'd lean to agree with ^^ and say yes kratom will work u may need a higher dose tho, and the kratom affects more than just the mu receptors so even if it doesn't attach to those it will to the others and you'll feel those effects. hope this helps, again just IME I have no real source to back up my conclusions. Good luck broski!
 
Damn, hope the sub doesn't make my tolerance skyrocket also making my kratom essentially worthless cause I got 150 grams of bali left. and still half the sub to snawt. and yeah man I was pretty fucked up and silly last night, Higher than I've been in a LOOOOOONG time off anything opiate related. Had fun, sorry if I was a little annoying
 
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