I know inone of the megathreads some one had listed the low doses needed to be taken for each ROA and I'm getting to that point with my taper and occasionally I'm starting to get some that are completely eliminating my cravings. Since I've finally tapered down to be at about that point I would like to read over it again to know which doses I should be taking for which roa so could anyone help me find that post or give me the numbers I haven't been able to find it through search and there's way to many mega threads to look through. If someone could help me out I'd appreciate it so very much.
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Bupe Suboxone dosages to achieve agonistic effects regularly while on maintence
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Mr.Scagnattie
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If you've been on suboxone for a while, there's a good chance that you'll never achieve any euphoric effects from it.. your body is just too used to it. However, if you are going to get anything it's going to be on a very low dose. <2mg's sublingual, even 1mg and below is the sweet spot if one is looking for any kind of euphoria from bupe. But like I said, for somebody who has been on it a while... it probably wont happen.
hangyourhead
Bluelighter
Agreed. I was on it for 7+ months for maintenance. With everyday use, there is no true euphoria from bupe, regardless of agonistic effects IMO. When you get your bupe tolerance down, <2mg doses may provide a noticeable mood lift though.
cire113
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Honestly, if you dose once every 2 or 3 days you will definitely get euphoria... as your levels will drop below the ceiling probably
But yeah. your receptors are just so saturated and tolerance builds fast; you are under the influence of sub 24/7 on maitnence with no peak or drops in blood plasma levels
But yeah. your receptors are just so saturated and tolerance builds fast; you are under the influence of sub 24/7 on maitnence with no peak or drops in blood plasma levels
I am just speaking of the mood lift and stuff. I can't find it again but in one of the sub megathreads some one posted saying basically for ROA A you can't take anymore than this amount of mg and for ROA B this amount and so on and so forth. I'm down to between .5mg and 1mg a day and I do ocassionally achieve the mood lift and somewhat feeling that I've taken an opiate. I'm looking for a sweet spot to get that regularly.
are you at 0.5-1.0mg sublingual? if so try 2mg insuff. it should get you up a bit. then dose another 1-2mg later depending on effects. don't go over 4mg a day though as you'll boost tolerance back up again.
in short: sparingly do 2mg lines with 1-2mg bumps to get off.
in short: sparingly do 2mg lines with 1-2mg bumps to get off.
It was 0.25 plugged then 0.5 sublingual for a little while then as a lead I get off of what you said a few days ago I plugged 1mg and go some very mild mood/left euphoria and slight itchiness. I was thinking I tapered too fast and was at too low of a dose to achieve the desired effects. I am just afraid I am going to hit the ceiling again.
edit- I have the sublingual strips at the moment. So insufflation isn't an easy option.
edit- I have the sublingual strips at the moment. So insufflation isn't an easy option.
with the strips you can the visine bottle wet rails method (very wasteful) or the needleless syringe method. dissolve in warm water, draw up in a barrel without a pin on it. tilt head back and slowly inhale the water as you depress the plunger. I used this method back in the day when I was on bupe.
it's probably more wasteful, etc., but if you're not a needle user or don't have needles lying around or whatever, you can just dissolve in a few drops of warm water on a spoon or whatever and snort the water into your nasal cavity w/ a plastic straw- then just hold your nose and kind of tilt your head back and forth for a bit so that it doesn't immediately drain out
EDIT- to answer the original post, in my experience, once you transition to regular bupe maintenance from addiction to traditional opiods, there really isn't much euphoria, regardless of dosage/roa/etc.
EDIT- to answer the original post, in my experience, once you transition to regular bupe maintenance from addiction to traditional opiods, there really isn't much euphoria, regardless of dosage/roa/etc.
I just remembered about that a few minutes after I posted that. I dissolved 1.5 mg of suboxone in the best possible oral syringe there is IMO. It comes with children's ibuprofen and is only about 9.5 or 10mm thick. I had used it for plugging so I did everything I could to sanitize it. Washed with antibac soaped than soaked and rinsed it with a bleach solution. It has measurements on it for .625 ml 1.25 ml and 1.875 ml. I backloaded the strips and drew up .625 ml of hot water from the sink let it dissolve and shot 1/3 of the solution into my nostril with my head slightly tilted back. I didn't have any liquid at all get to the back of my throat and it's been probably about 4ish hours since I have dosed and I have that nice suboxone glow mild itchiness which I love and reduction of anxiety. Also my muscles are very relaxed which is great because I have chronic tense muscles in my neck from clenching my jaw. I'm wondering should I do lower doses for the next 2 or 3 days then another 1.5 mg of so because of how sub's build up in your system? I was trying to get off of these but I can't get a decent pysch dr that doesn't just want to zombify me with mood stabilizer and I can't even tolerate an ssri 3 days on paxil(and apparently it doesn't start working for 4-6 weeks dafuq?) and I couldn't sleep at all had terrible restless legs and all. I know for a fact I just have adult ADD because Bi-polar and ADD symptoms are very similar but every pysch dr I see just wants to put me on mood stabilzers and ssri's and make me completely unable to function. Sorry about the long post.(I'm not a tweaker I just type fast.
Edit- Also does anyone have a ballpark estimate of how much higher rinsing your mouth with listerine ups the BA for suns? I'll probably just stick to nasal administration though because it's always seemed to work better for me. I would say the faster onset but nasal is even better than rectal for me so I doubt it's that. I only got on the strips because I had a stint with IV'ing suboxone now I can't think of anything to say to get RX'd the pills again but they do some horrible damage to my nose so I'm happy this intranasal method worked well.
Edit- Also does anyone have a ballpark estimate of how much higher rinsing your mouth with listerine ups the BA for suns? I'll probably just stick to nasal administration though because it's always seemed to work better for me. I would say the faster onset but nasal is even better than rectal for me so I doubt it's that. I only got on the strips because I had a stint with IV'ing suboxone now I can't think of anything to say to get RX'd the pills again but they do some horrible damage to my nose so I'm happy this intranasal method worked well.