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Suboxone Dilemma - MERGED

Good question, ha... I just wasnt ready to get off always some excuse but mainly afraid of well using. Nasal mainly because I couldnt wait the hour for it to kick in sublingual, I kinda grew to love snorting it probably snorted it 4 out of the 8 years I was on it. I am still sneezing like crazy everyday, no more stuffy nose though. Almost 20 days clean from bupe tomorrow. So fuckin nice. Now I have to shake this month+ klonopin I have been taking. Kinda sucks I am shaking pretty bad at 24-36 hours, I am stopping tomorrow or the next day, hahahahha :)

peace.
seedless
 
You're already on subs..go to NA ..and/or look into other non-AA/NA meetings and groups like SMART recovery, and things like that. They can be and are very beneficial. You obviously need to talk to someone about it all, we can honestly only help so much. -good fortune.
 
jake99 said:
60 days at 4 mg , that is 240 mg.......................which is 30 8 mg pills................which leaves nothing to taper with .............why dont i do 10 days at 4 mg =40 mg 5 days at 2 mg= 10 mg 10 days at 1 mg= 10 mg 10 days at .5 mg= 5 mg then .25 a bit then stop altogether that is like 80 mg , which is only 10 pills
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Yes the whole point of replacement therapy is to replace your dope with the subs and get your life back over time..so take the subs as long as possible with enuff time to taper down at the end..you'll have a better chance of staying clean than doing a quick and pointless taper since it hasnt seemed to work for you in the past.
 
bagochina= 8 years on subs ? wow ..............long time . i cant afford to stay on them so with the 27 or so 8 mg subs i haev i should be able to work out a taper ..............
i am just mad that even though im on day 4 with no dope that i still have to keep going thru w/d when i get off the sub ...............i took 4 mg today , plan on trying 2 mg tomorow
 
Mad about withdrawals? Dude, just stop taking the subs and get it over with then. In any case, you put yourself in that situation. Stop beating yourself up, just stop doing it.
 
Jake, I know how you feel. I quit using about two months ago. The first week I was in crisis mode after I realized how many important issues I had been avoiding and how much pain I had caused my family. I broke down and thought I wasn't going to make it. Realizing what I had been doing and done, on top of the withdrawls seemed unbearable. All I could do is survive, and that is what I focused on for a while. Some times I didn't want to survive but I just kept looking forward to what the future had in store for me, although it seemed like nothing. As the days added up to weeks and those added up to months, nothing has actually changed in reality. They way I view things and handle them is what has changed.

I'm in a much better place than I ever was when I was using and it only takes time to realize that. I had to let my body and mind stabilize from the drugs and that took some time. After that it was all down hill. Don't get me wrong, it was the hardest thing I have ever done, but it feels so good knowing I will NEVER put myself back in that situation. Plus I had a lot of fun while it lasted, it was only time to grow up for me and move on with my life.

This is just how I dealt with the sobering up stuff. Its hard, but its just as equally rewarding. The problems you have now seem worse than they really are, I hope. They were for me because the withdraws blow things out of proportion. Everything will get better and be put back into perspective, it just takes time.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that everything works itself out for you , I 'm sure it will. Just be patient and hang in there buddy, you'll thank yourself in the end.

- Drewskie :)
 
Thats funny. stupid people............
Anyway just wondering , if ive used these subs for 5 days now to kick the dope and i just stop the sub , you think ill start gettin more sick if i dont wean off even though i only took 2 mg today ? should i do 1 mg then .5 .25 etc or just try to stop the sub ?
any opinions ?
and due to long half life when would the sub w/b kick in ?
ive been doing sub/dope for abuot a year and recently turned into more of a dope habit then just subs on days i couldnt afford dope
so i still feel depressed today , but not really dopesick anymore , not as bad as fist few days
 
I tihnk since you havearound 30 subs you should get as much time as possible on the subs, allowing yourself to gradually taperdown to .25 at the end of your supply. this wil give you a lot of "cleam time" to get ur life back in order.
 
They say the average amount of time for the body to detox from the opiates is about 7-10 days depending on the amount of use and potency and type of opiate. At 5 days I'd guess you'd still have some wds seeing that most people says days 3 thru 5 are the worst and most start to see improvement after about a week or so. The suboxone wesite has some taper schedules that thy use in treatment centers. If I remember right there were a couple of short taper schedules posted that you might want to look at.
 
You rationalize with the family with truth that the brain chemistry governs over well-being, particularly the endorphin system, and that you decided that you are stopping subs and trying other route of treatment.

If they do not accept the truth, then there is no way you can communicate with them or have anything to do with them because they are stuck in an anti-truth dark reality of fraud programming, programmed to be in love with death and torture.
 
i'm back

jake99 said:
took 2 mg today ............. longer i stay on it harder its gonna be too stop
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The longer you wait the harder it gets. Do the kicken chicken for a few nights.... it'll suck but its worth it. Three day man come on... your still on dope. your tapering,big difference..... quit cold turkey or have your plug pulled and then bitch. not meaning to down you but man. But if you need help get it.... Talk to a doc. it works out bra. it hurts but its also a vicious cycle. Without professional help it doesn't work bra. been there done that. Its something I haven't come to terms with But i'm getting there.
 
Thats good bra I quit cold turkey'ed it like 6 day's ago coming out of the haze.... IDK man. its fucked up I get 120 30mg oxy in the mail a month from the VA and shit i can't help my self ya know.. Taking it one day at a time...... Its a long road.. I know your pain. I'm just done with these doc. all they want is a buck. I've ask for subby and gotten a NO... WTF. I dontget it8o
 
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