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Suboxone Dilemma - MERGED
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artaxerxes
Bluelighter
I've been checking in on this thread and wanted to give you some words of support. You've done great!
So you messed up a few days, just get back on the subs and don't let your 4 days convince you that you fucked up bad. Everybody relapses during the process of getting clean.
Just get back on the subs and congratulate yourself for the all days you were staying clean. Don't let a small slip up convince you that you've fucked up completely. You haven't.
Good luck. Positive vibes and all that PLUR. But I mean it. You can do this and you're inspiring a lot of other BLers who are fighting the same battle.
So you messed up a few days, just get back on the subs and don't let your 4 days convince you that you fucked up bad. Everybody relapses during the process of getting clean.
Just get back on the subs and congratulate yourself for the all days you were staying clean. Don't let a small slip up convince you that you've fucked up completely. You haven't.
Good luck. Positive vibes and all that PLUR. But I mean it. You can do this and you're inspiring a lot of other BLers who are fighting the same battle.
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i agree jake you hav bin a great inspiritation for me towards my sobriety 4 days aint shit its part of the process please just hop back on the wagon n take it from there look how many ppl keep telling u how they follow this thread u r a great inspiration to alot of ppl u made it to what almost 20 days by ur self no rehab no shit now that is amazing keep us updated man good luck
i agree jake you hav bin a great inspiritation for me towards my sobriety 4 days aint shit its part of the process please just hop back on the wagon n take it from there look how many ppl keep telling u how they follow this thread u r a great inspiration to alot of ppl u made it to what almost 20 days by ur self no rehab no shit now that is amazing keep us updated man good luck
Suboxone Success ,. anyone ?
Hey i would love to hear from anyone who has been on Subs , stayed clean off other opiates, and life been better for them ? i usually just hear ppl go back to dope . I am trying to get my life back and do it with subs and no dope and would love some inspiration !
Hey i would love to hear from anyone who has been on Subs , stayed clean off other opiates, and life been better for them ? i usually just hear ppl go back to dope . I am trying to get my life back and do it with subs and no dope and would love some inspiration !
I've been on bupe going on 3 years next month.
I live a much happier and fulfilling life on bupe. I led a fairly normal life when I was using dope (good job, bills were always paid, had a social life) but junk was what everything was based around, and I was usually miserable except for the hour or so after each shot. No more. My life has returned to what it was 8 or 9 years ago. I have goals, I'm grounded, and I co-own a small business building cabinets.
I had one hell of a time adjusting my life when I started bupe. My parents helped me out tremendously (both financially and emotionally) they let me move back home, took a lot of the weight off my shoulders, and understood the constant relapses.
It is definitely possible to get away from junk, and buprenorphine (as well as methadone) are great tools to help get you there. The first 6 months without junk (even with bupe) were very very rough for me. Severe depression, no motivation, no non junk using friends. I was isolated from the world. It does get better tho. The longer away from them stamps (in my case balloons), the less you think about them.
I also credit my clean time to a near fatal overdose I had a few years ago. At the time I didn't think it was a big deal, but after reflecting on it and picturing how my death would have affected the people around me, well it really made me think how important nodding out really is.
You can do it Jake. You're already ahead of the game ! Stay positive, keep your eye on the long term. If you end up using don't kick yourself. Learn from it and move foward. Good luck buddy !
I live a much happier and fulfilling life on bupe. I led a fairly normal life when I was using dope (good job, bills were always paid, had a social life) but junk was what everything was based around, and I was usually miserable except for the hour or so after each shot. No more. My life has returned to what it was 8 or 9 years ago. I have goals, I'm grounded, and I co-own a small business building cabinets.
I had one hell of a time adjusting my life when I started bupe. My parents helped me out tremendously (both financially and emotionally) they let me move back home, took a lot of the weight off my shoulders, and understood the constant relapses.
It is definitely possible to get away from junk, and buprenorphine (as well as methadone) are great tools to help get you there. The first 6 months without junk (even with bupe) were very very rough for me. Severe depression, no motivation, no non junk using friends. I was isolated from the world. It does get better tho. The longer away from them stamps (in my case balloons), the less you think about them.
I also credit my clean time to a near fatal overdose I had a few years ago. At the time I didn't think it was a big deal, but after reflecting on it and picturing how my death would have affected the people around me, well it really made me think how important nodding out really is.
You can do it Jake. You're already ahead of the game ! Stay positive, keep your eye on the long term. If you end up using don't kick yourself. Learn from it and move foward. Good luck buddy !
toolfan420
Bluelighter
I became addicted to OC when i was 16 and heroin when i was 17. There was some real fucked up shit goin on in my life and i managed to overcome it/get sober. I was on subs for half a year and I'm like 3 months clean from subs right now. getting sober imo only happened cuz of the help of suboxone. I know if i didnt get on suboxone I wouldn't be where I am today. It isn't for everyone, but it helped me a lot. I'm pretty drunk (lol) so my response won't be that great maybe i can write more tomorrow, but if you really want to get clean you CAN and once you get through all the bullshit (withdrawals, some PAWS) you will feel great.
you also gotta spend time thinking about the reason you used in the first place (there may be one). it might take a while, but once you realize and get over that bullshit, you are good.
you can do it man, seriously. it might take a few tries and you might relapse a few times but just persevere man its fuckin worth it.
you also gotta spend time thinking about the reason you used in the first place (there may be one). it might take a while, but once you realize and get over that bullshit, you are good.
you can do it man, seriously. it might take a few tries and you might relapse a few times but just persevere man its fuckin worth it.
95Land
Ex-Bluelighter
That's kind of the key, IMO. If you can stay away from the shit completely, and never go back, then that's fucking awesome.
I would also encourage you to keep in mind that a lot of people on Sub maintenance do relapse. I've relapsed three times. If it does happen, it means you've slipped, not failed. The most important thing is to realize that it was a mistake, make it a one time mistake, and get right back on the Bupe.
I've tricked myself into taking what I thought would be a short Bupe vacation. Just a few days of use. Not a chance. Every time I tried that I ended up using for months. And making the switch from dope, back to Subs is a bitch.
Suboxone works great for some people, and you do seem like you're well on your way. Best of luck to you. Also remember, the pills aren't a cure, they're a tool. Your willpower is much more crucial to keeping yourself clean. Again, good luck.
Suboxone can be a miracle drug if used properly. Like everyone said before, you might relapse on bupe but it isnt the end of the world. Remember, take things one day at a time. Bupe kept me clean for a year and allowed me to live a normal life without cravings or withdrawal. If it had not been for some major medical complications in which i was prescribed several potent painkillers(thus in turn causing me to relapse), I would still be sober right now.
Im getting back on suboxone monday and i'm ready to start life again. I want to quit opiates though and that plays a major role. If you have no interest in quitting yet, suboxone will not help. If you are indeed determined, then it should help considerably.
Stay on it for a while if you feel like you need to. Some people can detox quickly and be fine, while others feel comfortable with the safety net suboxone provides. It wont completely stop you from using if you want to, but it will indeed deter you since it binds so efficiently to opioid receptors.
I wish you the best of luck and remember, you can do this. Suboxone is a great tool for opiate addicts to utilize if done properly.
Im getting back on suboxone monday and i'm ready to start life again. I want to quit opiates though and that plays a major role. If you have no interest in quitting yet, suboxone will not help. If you are indeed determined, then it should help considerably.
Stay on it for a while if you feel like you need to. Some people can detox quickly and be fine, while others feel comfortable with the safety net suboxone provides. It wont completely stop you from using if you want to, but it will indeed deter you since it binds so efficiently to opioid receptors.
I wish you the best of luck and remember, you can do this. Suboxone is a great tool for opiate addicts to utilize if done properly.
the bold one
Bluelighter
alright jake! subs worked ok for me too,but i found it much easier to taper off the subs with tramadol,really really makes things much easier good luck............e.
Thanks . Ive had about 50 relapses in last year, but until few weeks ago i didnt really try to stay on subs. just used them when no dope was around. Now i made it 3 weeks just on subs , relapsed about 4 days on H , and been back on subs about 4 days , finally getting over sickness again............
lowski E
Bluelighter
ive been on subs for 14 days now....i used to take 20-25 norcos a day......also a few 80 mg oc's too....and subs have been a absolute miracle....i take 8 mg a day and i have absolutely no cravings for norcos or ocs and the withdrawls are gone 100 percent.....my life has made a complete 180, i am engaged (which is before i started subs) but im getting a new car soon, saved like 3,000 dollars already, and im moving into a condo with my fiance in a month....so my life is 100 times better due to suboxone. It saved my life. Just take it responsibly
ss2brandon
Bluelighter
i used a small amount of sub to kick a 150-200 mg a day habit. when i mean little i mean about .1-.25 mg on day one of WD's because if not i would have strangled someone at work. i wouldnt suggest staying on subs but im not a doctor and i dont know your situation exactly. i take it you just want to take the subs so you can save $ and not suffer WD's?
stuckinaloop
Bluelighter
just keep in mind..most people come on th internet to ask questions and complain
a lot of the "success" stories...you won't hear about. people cleaned up and left the drug sites etc...
thats why..IMO, you see SO MUCH negativity about suboxone and methadone on the net, becuase it's all people trying to get off it etc... once they are off it and get their life back they don't go posting on a bunch of web sites etc..
Just a thought..could be totally wrong.
I got off subs, it wasn't really that bad at all [physical]. I was on subs since they were first available for prescription. I think the hardest thing for me was just changing the thoughts about wanting to use, the lifestyle around using, and the friendships. It took quite awhile for me to not want to use dope and I did end up using h when I first detoxed off bupe. First time I touched dope in 5 years, kinda made me nervous. I used tramadol, benzos, clonidine, and sleeping pills to make the transition to nothing.
I have a month and a half clean from opiates, and am taking no other pills.
peace.
seedless
I have a month and a half clean from opiates, and am taking no other pills.
peace.
seedless
purple_cloud
Bluelight Crew
I've never gotten deep in the opiate world, but I just wanted to say jake99, I read your threads, I'm cheering for ya --- you definitely have my support.
You can do it bro. I had one hell of a heroin addiction before I switched to bupe. Did I relapse a few times when I first started using it? Of course, I think most people do.
Keep your head on right and suboxone will help a great deal. If you feel like you want to use, drop a pill under your tongue and hopefully that will help your cravings. Once bupe gets you out of wd's is when the fun begins. Getting clean is easy as pie, staying clean is a whole different ballgame.
But you CAN do it. Once you get going on your bupe regimen for a few weeks the PAWS should subside considerably. Make sure you cut ties with all of your drug buddies as well, even if they are some of your closet friends. Unfortunately, no matter how good a person is, the addict in their mind will always try and reel you back in. This was one of the most important steps for me when I was getting clean.
Feel free to pm me if you need some support. I too am about to begin my second suboxone regimen and I can try to help you get going on it if you need.
Best of luck to you
Keep your head on right and suboxone will help a great deal. If you feel like you want to use, drop a pill under your tongue and hopefully that will help your cravings. Once bupe gets you out of wd's is when the fun begins. Getting clean is easy as pie, staying clean is a whole different ballgame.
But you CAN do it. Once you get going on your bupe regimen for a few weeks the PAWS should subside considerably. Make sure you cut ties with all of your drug buddies as well, even if they are some of your closet friends. Unfortunately, no matter how good a person is, the addict in their mind will always try and reel you back in. This was one of the most important steps for me when I was getting clean.
Feel free to pm me if you need some support. I too am about to begin my second suboxone regimen and I can try to help you get going on it if you need.
Best of luck to you