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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread and FAQ v17.0 + v18.0

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good on ya, def something to be proud of. Tapering three years of use w 16mg, i can def see that being "uncomfortable" to say the least. What was the dose you started tapering from?
N as far as knowing my shit, if only i dedicated half the time i spent learning bout drugs to doing my school work i probably wouldn't be pulling a "Van Wilder", 8 years and still working towards my B.S. lol. slow and steady wins the race. or at least that's what i tell myself. Ha.
 
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Thank you! My dose for the majority of the time was 2.5mg.then I went down to 1.5mg for my gfs, that was a month before the true taper. So I started low but was very habitated after five years of daily opiate use.

I wish I enjoyed all aspects of my profession as much as dealing others with drug addiction. But the personal nature draws me in lol. I almost prefer my addicted (or former) clients to the non users.

Good for you for sticking with it sir! Worth it into.
 
I'm a clinical psychologist with a focus in cognitive behavioral therapy. Sadly, I never would have gotten through school without various drugs.
 
My deal is about opposite, before college i just smoked weed all day, everyday, n i know a lot of people say that but i mean like 30 blunts a day between 4/5 heads, oz at once on holiday type shit. But then Sophomore year of college in FL, 07 when blues were stupid cheap i feel into them hard, occasionally shooting dope when it was around and cheaper/better than pills (i know pills used to be cheaper than dope, crazy)which turned into shooting the blues and then years of MMT followed by some clean time, n now on n off almost monthly
I think were derailing this thread tho, might pm you some tho
 
Good to know were not detailing the thread lol, but do feel free to PM me if you'd like. My original use was to cover some major pain I was going through, losing a group of my closest friends one after another. Opiates were just a blunt for life at first, I didn't even enjoy them that much, they just made me not hurt and obsess over the very early deaths of the people I loved (of course, from Opiates and benzos). I never fell in love with the feeling, even after I had a physical dependency.

When I snapped back (of course because of a girl) I knew I had to kick the habit but couldn't afford to w/d and miss class. So I started buying a friends Suboxone (he was scriped 4 8mg pills a day, took half of one IV and sold the rest) and sadly, unlike true opiates, I LOVED the feeling instantly. It replaced both my addy script and my opiate habit all in one! Energy all day with no anxiety. I committed to a longterm addiction like I was signing a check. For years I didn't question it, till one day someone stole my stash from my carry on bag during screening. I had to pretend I was sick the entire time I was visiting my friends/parents back home but many could tell the truth. The flu doesn't cause crash depression and I couldn't help but saying/doing dumb shit because I was so goddam emotional (I had been on a high dose at the time, and the fent abuse was strong in the background) but I had four weeks of break and no supply, and I lived.


I was 3 months clean when I pulled a train spotting, and made a active decision to get back on the bupe as soon as possible. That was three or four fucking years ago, fuck if I actually remember. Sometimes I out logic myself. So I'm not exactly the typical user. Not sure how many people woulda picked Bupe per say XD.

I remember the days of cheap pills, but I think Florida always had em cheapest. The pain management industry is massive down there, so the pain pills have always flowed a bit more freely. One of the things I'm always very happy about is that I never got into the needle, you should be proud that you managed to stop IVing. I know people who have switched to very low does bupe and can't stop banging the pills (even though there is little difference in the high as far as I understand from the same people). MMT is one I've never tried, likely for the best considering my love for Bupe.

I love drugs that make me more useful in my professional studies/life, so Bupe was just always so perfect (also I hate amphs, so being able to toss my script was awesome for me, I get the paradoxical effect with amps, but MAD anxiety. Shitty.)

I smoke SOOOOO much cannabis and oil. Always have. Thats something I truly don't want to deal with. Passing the drug test for my current job was harder then quitting Bupe. Weed is the only drug that is heavily habituated into my life (sub was a quick thing, didn't become a ritual at all). Without weed/hash oil....I don't know man....I smoked mad blunts in HS too, used to just drive around blunt after blunt. Then started collecting super pricey glass in college and ripping different bongs all day. I wish I had saved the money I made doing sketch shit, but my glass collection always makes me happy. Also thinking about what my clients might say if they knew my life outside the office makes me crack up. The addiction, all that fuckin acid, the DMT binge...weird shit. Not sure they would want me treating them.
 
I smoke SOOOOO much cannabis and oil. Always have. Thats something I truly don't want to deal with. Passing the drug test for my current job was harder then quitting Bupe. Weed is the only drug that is heavily habituated into my life (sub was a quick thing, didn't become a ritual at all). Without weed/hash oil....I don't know man....I smoked mad blunts in HS too, used to just drive around blunt after blunt. Then started collecting super pricey glass in college and ripping different bongs all day. I wish I had saved the money I made doing sketch shit, but my glass collection always makes me happy. Also thinking about what my clients might say if they knew my life outside the office makes me crack up. The addiction, all that fuckin acid, the DMT binge...weird shit. Not sure they would want me treating them.

I have those thoughts too. I'm a social worker, and many of my clients deal with addiction problems. In a few months I'll be a licenced Addiction therapist, so I will be able to actually share my background (looots of mdma + psychedelics) with my clients instead of thinking "if they ever knew..."

Cannabis is a medicine for me, and has been for many years. I was prescribed it for pain control. Oils, waxes, chocolates, tigerbalms, I got all of those at the clubs, and then grew tree at home. Always indica, usually blue dream. I can't be on suboxone through my insurance if I use cannabis. Bupe is given to patients through their chemical dependency recovery program, and it's a program of abstinence. If I went out of pocket I would have had to pay a fortune for it (I did it for a year, it was brutal) so I now pay $10 for my prescription and agree to abstain from all substances. It's been just over a year without cannabis--my first in 15 years. That's another change that will happen when I get my licence; I'll move up a salary bracket and have the flexibility to get subs from my private doc again. I haven't decided whether I'll use medical cannabis again or not.
 
I was a social worker for awhile too! Much preferred that job actually. Decided to go back and become a licensed CBT and honestly, kinda regret that. The increase in salary has not put much of a dent in the debt from two extra years of school (on top of 4 undergrad and 2 for my MSW). I've always considered going the addiction counseling route, but figure I'd have to move somewhere with a different attitude. New York is not a wonderful place to be an addict in recovery trying to work in a professional field. More or less you keep it to yourself or find a consulting job (at least in the Psych world).

I can't say Cannabis is a medicine for me, but it makes me a bit more functional. For me it hides the social anxiety that comes with being on the autism spectrum for many. I didn't want to give up smoking, which is why I got all my Bupe from the streets during my 4 years taking it. Helped me keep my dose low which was nice. Good luck getting your treatment license, I truly believe (former) addicts make the best recovery counselors.
 
Also, ^THIS x1000. I <3 u Zwanya, u take the words right outta my head. Haha

Sorry for double post (I'm on my iphone)

Even my IV Dilaudid habit wasn't as bad tolerance-wise as the bupe dose I'm supposed to take right now...ethat's why I'll be switching back to methadone when I want to get off ORT... 12mg suboxone sublinh = 39mg dilaudid IV ...I averaged 18 a day...sucks to be on something so strong and so hard to even feel.
 
No offense to her but she's on 12mg for a codeine habit, i don't think she knows what she got into
When i can from 2 years MMT my doc wanted me on 16 but found that to be too much n immediately dropped to 8
Hell i can"feel", not high, but feel .25 iv'd n I'm used to iv h, Ds, n high dose oc.
12mg is a shitload, believe dat.
When i can from 2 years MMT my doc wanted me on 16 but found that to be too much n immediately dropped to 8
 
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After a sneaky shot of h last nite i was able to take 1mg sub problem free, .5 twice across an hour before work this morn.
Been struggling with cravings soo bad , even did a cotton shot this morn after i dosed the bupe knowing I'd get nothing but relief from needle fever.
It sucks i want to break dependence but i also want to be able to use whenever.
@Flaga, i could def see how one might choose bupe bc it gives me a def mood lift and anti depressent qualities plus it only requires once daily dosin. I feel pretty damn good physically and mentally (besides the fact i wanna do a big Ol' banger right now), on lunch now but ive been washing cars for like6 hours n no symptoms.
I have to work every day thru the weekend and I'm thinking bupe (I'll iv it now that I'm "stable" on it, adjusting dose for ba differences in ROAs, and don't have to worry bout pW/D) thru Saturday morn then lunch time break Saturday break out the dope, have fun thru Sunday then use my day off Monday to see where I'm at.
sounds like a terrible plan but I'll figure out a way go justify it. Ha
@flaga sound like we had some similar experiences drug wise except i was so doped up when i tried dmt got nothing more than super slight visuals, n i know it wasn't it bunk cause when i passed the pipe (after like 8 hits mind you, still nothing) to this chic n she was gone before she could hand the pipe back lol.
fuck I'm on lunch n could so shoot up, got dope n bupe on me. Just don't do it, it'll be better another day, yea right ha.
 
No offense to her but she's on 12mg for a codeine habit, i don't think she knows what she got into
When i can from 2 years MMT my doc wanted me on 16 but found that to be too much n immediately dropped to 8
Hell i can"feel", not high, but feel .25 iv'd n I'm used to iv h, Ds, n high dose oc.
12mg is a shitload, believe dat.
When i can from 2 years MMT my doc wanted me on 16 but found that to be too much n immediately dropped to 8

I agree. Now you would just be hooked on sub. I was doing a few bags a day of dope plus roxis and whatever else and got prescribed 8mg a day and took it for a while but even 2mg 2X a day is sufficient for me and my oxy tolerance is like 120-150mg, which is way more then any amount of codeine you can take without getting sick or hitting a ceiling dose.

I would have gotten ridiculed and laughed at if I even asked for 8mg a sub for a Vic habit, much less a codeine habit. I've been wanting to say something for a while but held my tongue but now that someone else posted about it if figured id give my opinion.
 
@Eteezy -I know that feeling all too well. Even though the worst w/d are well and truly behind me I'm having a harder time then ever not grabbing a nice glass of Kratom. It would make me so warm, the hours would melt away, but...I digress.

Bupe was wonderful to me for years, other then the fact that I didn't want to deal with the complications of a true script, so my supply could get stressful from time to time. Honestly, if it weren't for my current girlfriend I wouldn't much care to kick the habit, but once the thought got into my head I had to do it. I had to prove I could do it. Easy to manage, more of a mood lift then a high which prevented true craving or urge to redose. At the same time the specter of quitting looms large because it becomes such an accepted part of ones life.

Everyday you take Bupe instead of H is a good day in my book.

Dmt is generally tricky the first time. One has to get used to how long they must hold in that viscous smoke. Better to hold a small number of hits down for a long time then take many IME. I've smoked about a half zip of the shit in my life, not sure I ever want to even smell it again (BUT I change my mind very fast with that drug class, once festival season off my love for psychedelics comes back). One thing I am SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR is festival season without an addiction. It'll be so nice not to have Bupe nerfing my real drugs all weekend (K, Acid, 2C-X, type of stuff, mot opiates mind you). Also because other drugs seem to make me NEED bupe much faster, typically I had to split my dose in three and take it at different points to deal with festis. Which sucked, because I didn't trust myself to have it on me, put it in my car and would have to drag my gf back to my car each time. Not sure she cared because of the A/C though.

My w/d has become a bad mushies trip, it comes in waves. Half the time I'm feeling the best I have in a long time, other half I'm crawling out of my skin.
 
I agree. Now you would just be hooked on sub. I was doing a few bags a day of dope plus roxis and whatever else and got prescribed 8mg a day and took it for a while but even 2mg 2X a day is sufficient for me and my oxy tolerance is like 120-150mg, which is way more then any amount of codeine you can take without getting sick or hitting a ceiling dose.

I would have gotten ridiculed and laughed at if I even asked for 8mg a sub for a Vic habit, much less a codeine habit. I've been wanting to say something for a while but held my tongue but now that someone else posted about it if figured id give my opinion.

Hey that's ok. You have the right to your opinion n most agree with you. I usually react like a pit ball terrier whenever anyone mentions this but hayho I've been on suboxone for 10 months now n what's done is done eh?!
I was on 900 mg codeine but it was the psychological stuff that got me, not the physical. I see where you're coming from though so all's good
Evey xxxx
 
i disagree with what you're doing but i can see where you are coming from. and with subs for me its the mental thing to, not physical anymore, but eventually i gotta get off of it.

What's done is done, yes, but you can always taper off but it does'nt sound like you're ready to do that and i guess i can't blame you. just remember that the longer you're on it the worse it will be to come off so taper real low to make it as comfortable as possible.
 
Flaga, with that talk of music festivals and research chemicals you sound like my hippy roomates from UCF ha.
Off work feeling slight symptoms n have bupe, blues, and dope at my disposal, i think the only reason i didn't do a banger in work parking lit is bc i don't wanna fuck w my chances of takin bupe successfully in the morn. You've been of the bupe how long?
Oh yea u mentioned bupe nerfing (new term to me) other drugs n me being back on for the first in a while, does anyone else feel like bupe dulls your weed high? Def does for me where it enhanced any/all other opies for me, sucks.
@fire & water
The only bad part about recognizing my ill logic is that when i do do something stupid i am fully aware of how stupid it was/is making what should have been enjoyable slightly . Gotta love this cycle...
Maybe i load up on my kpins n herb n sit in front of call of duty to kill time, it's just so much more fun when on opies.
@evey
It's your doctor who is dumb (or a smart business man ha) therefore his fault but the balls in your court now. And i think everyone here understand the psychological hold these drugs have on us, ur not alone.
 
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