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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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hi everyone i'm new on here n don't know how to start or ask questions via forums/threads but i take subutex and get a pill count for daily report and probabtion does anyone know what pill looks similar to subutex cause i am short for my pill count n need to replace two of my pills so i don't go to jail lol plz help thanks

what pill lokks like or similar to a subutex i need to replace two subutex for a pill count

nah i looked n can't find anything n i'm not beating the law i just took one to many n its cool wit my dr. but not wit my prob. officer

o n i've beat the law quite a few times lol cops, law wtf ever its all shity n a money making scam my opinion and i'm sure someone on here can help me js
 
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-pinches self- holy shit! I'm NOT banned today? What did the mods forget to take there wheaties this morning?

Anyway. I wanna thank tyler5. I Was going to post in his thread about the finnland bupe epidemic, but of course...it was closed. Reindeerwatching was truly aweseome

I got to say. I did a little research on the less = more theory of bupe. According to one study where they scanned the brain of a opiate dependent person before (it wa BRIGHT red...like on fire) and after admistering .5 - 16mg. This is simply not true. That more areas of the brain are affected after more is added. Any thoughts?

Personally I believe it. I've seen a non opiate depenedt person take 2mg's, be sorta high, tha take the othr 6 and just be a total wreck.
 
80mg said:
-pinches self- holy shit! I'm NOT banned today? What did the mods forget to take there wheaties this morning?

Anyway. I wanna thank tyler5. I Was going to post in his thread about the finnland bupe epidemic, but of course...it was closed. Reindeerwatching was truly aweseome

I got to say. I did a little research on the less = more theory of bupe. According to one study where they scanned the brain of a opiate dependent person before (it wa BRIGHT red...like on fire) and after admistering .5 - 16mg. This is simply not true. That more areas of the brain are affected after more is added. Any thoughts?

Personally I believe it. I've seen a non opiate depenedt person take 2mg's, be sorta high, tha take the othr 6 and just be a total wreck.
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Watching reindeerspotting right now, thanks for mentioning it!!

I maintained on suboxone for 3 years at 0.5mg a day (500mcg)... started weaning about 6 months ago and am currently on 0.2mg a day (200mcg).

If I start feeling uncomfortable later on in the day (yawning, runny nose, watery eyes, anxious) I sometimes take an additional 100-200mcg to relieve these symptoms and I notice I get energy and a slight buzz from it. If i don't take extra suboxone I'll take 1/10th or 1/16th of a 0.1mg clonidine...also super sensitive to clonidine as well.

I am incredibly sensitive to bupe for some reason, my doctor finds it very strange that I feel anything with doses under 1mg. My first suboxone experience i was Rx'd 12mg a day, i took 6mg and it was too much, so the next day i took 4mg and that was still too much, then i went down to 2mg and a week later was taking 1mg a day and about a month of taking that i dropped down to 0.5mg and stayed on that dose for 3 years. i don't know why it's so strong for me... i had a decent sized habit... was taking 100-150mg oxy a day or 4-6 bags of high quality NYC dope a day (plugged/smoked/sniffed). IV'd oxy/dilly but only for a few months. not sure why i am so sensitive to bupe...

Cannot believe people are using suboxone recreationally, becoming addicted and then being Rx'd suboxone to treat their addiction... something about that just blows my mind.
 
enoughorangejuice? said:
Watching reindeerspotting right now, thanks for mentioning it!!

I maintained on suboxone for 3 years at 0.5mg a day (500mcg)... started weaning about 6 months ago and am currently on 0.2mg a day (200mcg).

If I start feeling uncomfortable later on in the day (yawning, runny nose, watery eyes, anxious) I sometimes take an additional 100-200mcg to relieve these symptoms and I notice I get energy and a slight buzz from it. If i don't take extra suboxone I'll take 1/10th or 1/16th of a 0.1mg clonidine...also super sensitive to clonidine as well.

I am incredibly sensitive to bupe for some reason, my doctor finds it very strange that I feel anything with doses under 1mg. My first suboxone experience i was Rx'd 12mg a day, i took 6mg and it was too much, so the next day i took 4mg and that was still too much, then i went down to 2mg and a week later was taking 1mg a day and about a month of taking that i dropped down to 0.5mg and stayed on that dose for 3 years. i don't know why it's so strong for me... i had a decent sized habit... was taking 100-150mg oxy a day or 4-6 bags of high quality NYC dope a day (plugged/smoked/sniffed). IV'd oxy/dilly but only for a few months. not sure why i am so sensitive to bupe...

Cannot believe people are using suboxone recreationally, becoming addicted and then being Rx'd suboxone to treat their addiction... something about that just blows my mind.
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I think addicts should jsut be givin what there addicted to beisdes heroin. Like if they are a oxy head...give em oxys...test randomly to wean away dealers...and watch crime rate goes down. But you jsut said "it was too much" so oblsy there is a potential for bupe to be rec, no?
 
i dont know... when i took 2-6mg it was too much as in i felt lightheaded, dizzy, nauseous... not like a euphoric nod like if i took too much oxy/hydro or heroin. it was rather unpleasant. i find that when i plug 200-300mcg i get a mild buzz. i find codeine to be more recreational. 120mg of codeine > any dose of suboxone for me.
 
I've been on 8mg sub a day- 4mg in morn, 4mg in afternoon- for 9months. This dose is perfect for me, but any more and I get the symptoms you describe. It's alleviated my anxiety/depression and took away my desire for drugs (except sometimes I crave amphetamines). I'm curious how long others have been on suboxone- anyone plan on being on it for life?
 
Wasn't sure, so I searched and found this thread where to put....

Ok my doc has tapered me without my knowledge or else i would have asked how and why 3 /8's of a pill?! How do I even cut this? I would have asked the pharmacy but I paid no attention to the directions.
 
xHippiexchildx said:
How was it not good for you? I want to know more, elaborate please..
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I apologize for my extremely delayed response, I don't BL very often..

Well it was suggested to me while I was in detox, so after I was released I was recommended a doctor nearby who would prescribe it for me...

No one bothered to let me know that it would be even more difficult to get off of than heroin itself. I know it's not the same for everyone, some people seem to have no problem getting off of subs and some (like myself) it seems there is nothing we can do to get off it without facing brutal, unbearable W/D's lasting even longer than H w/d's.

It was the wrong choice for me as I wasn't not a "hardcore, long-term addict" at that point, but I failed to do the research and went on the word of other addicts I had met in detox. I was quite angry and bitter at first, but I have accepted that God has a plan for me through this...
 
I tapered for several months and I jumped from less than .5 mg

it may have actually been .5 mg....this was years ago and I can't be 100% sure at the moment
 
80mg said:
I got to say. I did a little research on the less = more theory of bupe. According to one study where they scanned the brain of a opiate dependent person before (it wa BRIGHT red...like on fire) and after admistering .5 - 16mg. This is simply not true. That more areas of the brain are affected after more is added. Any thoughts?
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Do you have the link to the study? I think that higher doses are more effective in curbing cravings, but I think that in many cases doses higher than 8mg don't help much more with cravings, and doses beyond 16mgs don't have any added benefit other than perhaps a longer duration and stronger blockade effect.

However, that is not what the "less is more" theory is addressing really. The "less is more" is for achieving euphoric effects from the drug, minimizing negative side effects, limiting tolerance and dependence to suboxone while staying within an effective dosage range, and also so they aren't taking a dosage higher than needed to keep them from withdrawing when they first switch to suboxone from other opiates.

Also, since these lower doses can produce more euphoria, the user may be more likely to stick to using suboxone instead of stopping to try and get high off of other opiates. So while the higher doses may help curb cravings for a while, people taking higher doses may become bored with it faster than with lower doses, since with lower doses they are getting some euphoria from it which may keep them from straying away from suboxone to get euphoria elsewhere.
 
Tommyboy said:
Do you have the link to the study? I think that higher doses are more effective in curbing cravings, but I think that in many cases doses higher than 8mg don't help much more with cravings, and doses beyond 16mgs don't have any added benefit other than perhaps a longer duration and stronger blockade effect.

However, that is not what the "less is more" theory is addressing really. The "less is more" is for achieving euphoric effects from the drug, minimizing negative side effects, limiting tolerance and dependence to suboxone while staying within an effective dosage range, and also so they aren't taking a dosage higher than needed to keep them from withdrawing when they first switch to suboxone from other opiates.

Also, since these lower doses can produce more euphoria, the user may be more likely to stick to using suboxone instead of stopping to try and get high off of other opiates. So while the higher doses may help curb cravings for a while, people taking higher doses may become bored with it faster than with lower doses, since with lower doses they are getting some euphoria from it which may keep them from straying away from suboxone to get euphoria elsewhere.
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A link? Yeah let me look through my history.

I think that was the theory in question and the person was trying to achieve a "high". But even if he isn't...if it's affecting more parts of the brain wouldn't that still give him more euphora?

Thanks.
 
Blondie said:
I apologize for my extremely delayed response, I don't BL very often..

Well it was suggested to me while I was in detox, so after I was released I was recommended a doctor nearby who would prescribe it for me...

No one bothered to let me know that it would be even more difficult to get off of than heroin itself. I know it's not the same for everyone, some people seem to have no problem getting off of subs and some (like myself) it seems there is nothing we can do to get off it without facing brutal, unbearable W/D's lasting even longer than H w/d's.

It was the wrong choice for me as I wasn't not a "hardcore, long-term addict" at that point, but I failed to do the research and went on the word of other addicts I had met in detox. I was quite angry and bitter at first, but I have accepted that God has a plan for me through this...
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Btw, I feel your pain. I been on suboxone for 2 years and when I'm out I am SICK. Bed ritten. I mean you can't drag me out of bed (well you can but I'll just be in a coma sweating). I think doctors need to be more educated and less concerned about the almighty dollar. My dr is so unknoladgeable (sub doctor btw) with opiates he asks ME for advice. I even told him to come here for help a few times. So if you see some noob asking opiate questions in broken english...might be him haha. And being bitter don't solve anything. I'm currently very bitter towards my own mother for pretty much killing the woman I loved with all my heart. But she's gone and never coming back. So ya...
 
^ It baffles me how uneducated doctors can be when it comes to suboxone. For example, a former doctor of mine actually said to me "I don't know that much about how to get off of it, I only know how to prescribe it.."

I'm not even remotely kidding here...
 
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