Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

[BHannon24]

It is not strange at all thats why everyone says less is more with sub's.
The reason you feel "high" from low dose's is because you aren't flooding your opiate receptor with bupe you are just partially filling them leaving some open and when bupe is metabolized it turns into norbuperenorphine which is a full agonist just like morphine and oxy and then that binds to your open receptor's causing you to feel the full agonist effects. That's why you wanna be on the lowest dose possible because it actually works better at low dose's as far as how it makes you feel

 

[cire113]

^^^I totally understand this... yes you will feel more norebupe after lower does cause it opens up recetprs... but as far as for craving control for me MORE is definetly more; If i took 1 or 2mgs of bupe a day i would still crave the shit outta oxy and other opiates... when i take 4-8mgs a day.. i have less or no opiate cravings... explain that to me?

Trust me i would love to take lower doses of my bupe;; but for me MORE really makes me feel much better;; I have to remain at the ceiling about 4mgs constantly or i feel like shit; So to remain at the ceiling i have to take above the ceiling to keep my blood saturated...

Ive tried taking 1 or 2mgs .. Yes you you can feel more agonist effect but it doesnt fill my receptors and i actually feel like shit; I wonder whats the highest bupe i cant take every x hours that will still fee some receptors for norebupe.. prob 1mg? i dobut anyone really knows


I mean bupe is one HELLA strong opiate... I actually find dosing 2mgs every 6-8 hours is the best for me for craving control...

My goal is just to not do oxy or anything.. I'll probably be on bupe for life;; but its really discouraging to me that lately ive been having cravings for opiates; it makes no sense cause BUPE is an opiate!!

 

[runnyPoop]

this is a great thread!
i need some advice on the best way to get down to a tiny tiny dose of my sub strips.
im currently taking about .75 to 1 mg a day. I have 3 strips left and when they are gone they are gone and im done with it. i've been on them about 11 months at about 1-4 mg a day. for the last 4 months its been about 1 mg a day. should i just cut the strips into 1/16ths and stick the tiny little piece under my tongue? im always afraid that will waste it somehow when its so small. should i try the disolve and snort method instead? ive only ever snorted the tablets.
I just want to get off as painlessly as possible. Hopefully within the next month. Im just done with paying for a huge script that i don't need. I have access to klonapins and addys for the w/d's to help sleep and have energy.
hopefully i have success!

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

runnyPoop- lol.. great username haha..

n e wayz.. i would put the 1/16th under your tongue if you plan on being clean, since snorting is drug addict behavior and you want to get all that outta your head to stay clean.

 

[runnyPoop]

i figured the name will be appropriate here shortly. lol
i can do that. thanks for the response!
what are some good supplements to take when the w/d's start?
ive got magnesium, choline, vit b12, multis and imodium.
anything else that helps a lot that i can easily get?

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

if you can get a script for clonidine (generally easy to get) it will help a lot.

 

[Bojangles69]

this is a great thread!
i need some advice on the best way to get down to a tiny tiny dose of my sub strips.
im currently taking about .75 to 1 mg a day. I have 3 strips left and when they are gone they are gone and im done with it. i've been on them about 11 months at about 1-4 mg a day. for the last 4 months its been about 1 mg a day. should i just cut the strips into 1/16ths and stick the tiny little piece under my tongue? im always afraid that will waste it somehow when its so small. should i try the disolve and snort method instead? ive only ever snorted the tablets.
I just want to get off as painlessly as possible. Hopefully within the next month. Im just done with paying for a huge script that i don't need. I have access to klonapins and addys for the w/d's to help sleep and have energy.
hopefully i have success!

Well at that dose you shouldn't be terribly constipated, pluggin them you can make them last a longer, I'd say 3 times as much as snorting. I snort mine, I should plug them however just to save money but I'm too lazy. Either way you can standardize a solution.

1 - 8mg sub + 16ml water (use a pool/fish tank/cooking syringe]petstore, home depot, supermarket, etc) to measure its most accurate and easiest imo). Snort .5ml for a .25mg dose. Add more water if your syringe has larger intervals. Or you could plug that and it would be equal to almost 1mg sublingual. Take sub every 2-3 days and the lower you can taper obviously the better. But if I had a limited supply thats likely what I would do.

 

[Pegasus]

runnyPoop- lol.. great username haha..

n e wayz.. i would put the 1/16th under your tongue if you plan on being clean, since snorting is drug addict behavior and you want to get all that outta your head to stay clean.

While I agree to an extent, I don't think someone who is used to snorting will easily transfer to sublingual administration, especially not with such a low dose. I do think that snorting could be a negative drug abusing behavior for some, but not necessarily. I've actually abused quite a bit of drugs (mostly benzos) with sublingual admin.

 

[662]

i was just raging, my fault, i used to chew on fatinyl patches too, i been trying to kick suboxone for 70 days, its been rough. so i over reacted. i been in bed for over two months and i been snappy as fck. couldnt take it no more went to addiction psychitrist he got me on clondine which i quit cause it was like xanax and acid. now im just on citalopram and baclofen, i used to be social and broke ice no matter where, i was one of the few people that got energy from opiates, while most nodded out, now ten years later i been bed ritten for 70 days

 

[User X]

Question: I am a heroin/methadone user. I usually take 40-60 mgs of methadone or 1/2 gram of heroin a day. I took 20 mgs of methadone last night at 8pm. How long should I wait before taking any suboxone? How much should I take? I would like to IV it unless someone can give me a reason not to. I have an 8mg pill here.

 

[sweetnicci07]

How long have you been taking Methadone?? I was taking it for about 6 months and I had tapered down 3mg per day until I got to 6mg and then I stopped. I then waited over 48 hours and took 1.5mg of Suboxone and I went into PWD. It was the most terrible thing I have ever felt! I ended up having to wait a little over 5 days until I could take any Suboxone. You have to be VERY careful when going from Methadone to Suboxone. If you are not a daily Methadone user things may be different for you.

 

[User X]

I am more of a daily heroin user. I had 20 mgs last night and before that it was Tuesday that I took 30 mgs of methadone.

 

[Empty8787]

Does anyone here that's on Suboxone feel that they need a cig constantly?

I can't stop smoking and it's really getting to me, i want to quit cigs anyway.

Before I started on Suboxone this week, I didn't touch a cig for 2 months. But the first day I started Suboxone, I picked cigs right back up.

 

[User X]

OK so I waited 32 hours then took 4mgs under my tongue, No PW's but 7 hours after taking the 4mgs I dont feel that great. Would it be better if I iv'd the other 4mgs I have?

 

[User X]

Im preparing the other 4mgs I have now. Does it matter which kind of suboxone pill you have? I have the orange 8 mg kind.

**OK I did the 4mgs. It took a little bit and I cant really tell you if I got a good feeling from it. I took the 4mgs under my tongue this morning at 4AM and another 4mgs by IV at 1PM. I feel strange. I dont think I like this suboxone.

 

[dpatches]

So as I've said been on suboxone for about 2 years now. It was great in the beginning. I felt normal again was able to get my life back together, got a great job going, my own place, my own boat, no more trouble with the law, and money in the bank.

I was actually happy and things were better than they'd been in my 15 years of being an opiate addict. Yeah I'd chipped a few times and will do some free base a few times a month but I was extremely happy and things can't be going any better.

Over the past 4 or so months though I've been extremely depressed. Nothing seems to make me happy not even being out to sea cathing tons of lobsters on my commercial lobster boat. Which by the way being at sea has always made me smile. When I'm not working I'm basically asleep, I don't really go out and meet people like I've done my whole life.When I do go out people notice that I'm pretty much a miserable prick, a person that isn't me. I've forever been a happy person who loved life and enjoyed going out , being adventurous, meeting new people, and funny to be around. You know the life of the party. But lately thats not the case. I hate evrything and just wanna sleep and be miserable. I can't even stand my self or the reflection I see in the mirror. I was never self loathing. I can't fucking take it any more either.

So basically what I'm getting at is has any1 else experienced this? What's going on is it the suboxone? I was never this bad even at the height of my addiction which was really bad. 10 80mg OCs (the real ones not OPs) or 3 grams of dope a day with a shit load of legal troubles. Can any1 help me please with a similar story or some advice as to what's going on. I can't stand the person I am right now. I want to be me again?

 

[kmatrixg]

So as I've said been on suboxone for about 2 years now. It was great in the beginning. I felt normal again was able to get my life back together, got a great job going, my own place, my own boat, no more trouble with the law, and money in the bank.

I was actually happy and things were better than they'd been in my 15 years of being an opiate addict. Yeah I'd chipped a few times and will do some free base a few times a month but I was extremely happy and things can't be going any better.

Over the past 4 or so months though I've been extremely depressed. Nothing seems to make me happy not even being out to sea cathing tons of lobsters on my commercial lobster boat. Which by the way being at sea has always made me smile. When I'm not working I'm basically asleep, I don't really go out and meet people like I've done my whole life.When I do go out people notice that I'm pretty much a miserable prick, a person that isn't me. I've forever been a happy person who loved life and enjoyed going out , being adventurous, meeting new people, and funny to be around. You know the life of the party. But lately thats not the case. I hate evrything and just wanna sleep and be miserable. I can't even stand my self or the reflection I see in the mirror. I was never self loathing. I can't fucking take it any more either.

So basically what I'm getting at is has any1 else experienced this? What's going on is it the suboxone? I was never this bad even at the height of my addiction which was really bad. 10 80mg OCs (the real ones not OPs) or 3 grams of dope a day with a shit load of legal troubles. Can any1 help me please with a similar story or some advice as to what's going on. I can't stand the person I am right now. I want to be me again?

Honestly, it sounds like you've been at the same dose for longer than a few months. The longer you take the same dose, the more likely it is you become 'stuck', which results in depression and guilt from my experience. I was 'stuck' on 6mg's for almost 8 months with no pressure from my doctor. When I found this new doctor, we set a plan and he let me know that I didn't have to be doing this for long. The goal is to reduce your dose so you don't get trapped, or else you're defeating the purpose of maintenance, instead making it a habit again. Pretty soon, you'll find yourself asking the doctor to move you up a mg dose per day... Keep moving my friend, and you'll feel a ton better. Good luck

 

[tyler5]

16hrs since i last did dope (fent actually), took 2mg bupe, i now feel far WORSE, im 99% sure is precipitated wd's but what the hell. i waited till i was in pain and 16hrs should be enough or not?
its been about 30 mins and its only gotten worse, i feel.
why the hell wont bupe help me like other people?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

4mg is too much for an IV dose.

I'd suggest checking out the micron filtering mega thread. I would generally say to avoid IVing bupe if you have a high tolerance to opiates.

 

[dpatches]

Honestly, it sounds like you've been at the same dose for longer than a few months. The longer you take the same dose, the more likely it is you become 'stuck', which results in depression and guilt from my experience. I was 'stuck' on 6mg's for almost 8 months with no pressure from my doctor. When I found this new doctor, we set a plan and he let me know that I didn't have to be doing this for long. The goal is to reduce your dose so you don't get trapped, or else you're defeating the purpose of maintenance, instead making it a habit again. Pretty soon, you'll find yourself asking the doctor to move you up a mg dose per day... Keep moving my friend, and you'll feel a ton better. Good luck

I have been at the same dose for a long time now. I'm currently at 6mg and I find it almost near impossible ( for me anyhow ) to taper down to a 4mg dose.I start to feel extremely shitty witdrawal type symptoms and have a horrible time sleeping.

Does any1 have any tapering advise or know something that will help me from felling wd when I do jump down to 4mg. I really need to get out of this funk. I cannot fuckin stand it anymore.

BTW thanx for your help kmatrix