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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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So I want to try heroin again...for some weird reason. I am not craving it what so ever, never think about it. But I kinda of want to see what I fucked up my life so much for.

So my question is, how much does suboxone raise your tolerance?

I've only been on subs for a little over a month. 6-8mg daily. Sometimes 2mg will hold me. But for the most part I am taking a full 8mg a day. So does suboxone ruin your tolerance? Will I need 2x as much heroin as before?

Thanks :)
 
For the past five days I've taken 1 to 2 mg of Suboxone daily. Took my last dose at 1 this morning (13 hours ago). If I take several hydrocodone 7.5 mg this afternoon, will I feel anything at all from them? Will withdrawals likely precipitate? I know the half-life for the Suboxone is around 36 hours, however, I also know that 1 to 2 mg daily is a very mild dose.

Thanks!
 
Definitely do not do double what you did before.....if anythign it has lowered your tolerance considerably, deending on how much dope you were doing before.

It has completely got rid of my tolerance and I was shooting up $200 of H a day.

*Allthough I only do 4 mg of sub tops in a day, usually like .5-2 mg's*
 
For the past five days I've taken 1 to 2 mg of Suboxone daily. Took my last dose at 1 this morning (13 hours ago). If I take several hydrocodone 7.5 mg this afternoon, will I feel anything at all from them? Will withdrawals likely precipitate? I know the half-life for the Suboxone is around 36 hours, however, I also know that 1 to 2 mg daily is a very mild dose.

Thanks!

What do you mean by that?

Do you mean will you go into precipitated withdrawals?....no.

Since hydro's are so weak....you would probably only slightly feel them, unless you took atleast 10-13 of them(which is stupid without a CWE)...and even in that case, the high will still be somewhat limited
 
BTW....you only get precipitated withdrawals if you take a full agonist like hydrocodone, oxy, heroin, etc....and THEN take suboxone without letting the other opiates leave your brain receptors first.

Understand?
 
Yes, thanks. Actually they are 10 mg Hydrocodone. I have eight or so. I have never done CWE but plan on trying it when I take these. I'll just wait the remainder of the 36 - 48 hours so I feel the full effect. Thanks again!
 
What do you mean by that?

Do you mean will you go into precipitated withdrawals?....no.

Since hydro's are so weak....you would probably only slightly feel them, unless you took atleast 10-13 of them(which is stupid without a CWE)...and even in that case, the high will still be somewhat limited

So he could feel it even though they took the sub this morning?

I took a sub about 25 hours ago...you think I could snort my bags and feel it? Or I should wait
 
So I want to try heroin again...for some weird reason. I am not craving it what so ever, never think about it. But I kinda of want to see what I fucked up my life so much for.

Me too. I've never tried it.

Now gotta go find it... I figure since I could build a small house with all of the big orange pills I've stockpiled I might as well give it a go...

I consider myself in a chemical prison anyways, so what could it hurt?
 
Yest and today when I shot my suboxone (around 1mg) I have been getting these really tiny red pimples forming, like hundreds of them, up my arms (esp the one i shot in) and all over my neck and chest down to my waist. They itch like crazy. Wondering if anyone knows what this is, it's not like a normal histamine reaction which goes away soon after. It usually lasts a couple hours sometimes reappearing and disappearing.

Only thing I can think of I did differently was I was down the shore and had put a lot of sun block on my arms prior to shooting up. I tried my best to get rid of it but there may still have been some. Would that cause this?
 
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Yest and today when I shot my suboxone (around 1mg) I have been getting these really tiny red pimples forming, like hundreds of them, up my arms (esp the one i shot in) and all over my neck and chest down to my waist. They itch like crazy. Wondering if anyone knows what this is, it's not like a normal histamine reaction which goes away soon after. It usually lasts a couple hours sometimes reappearing and disappearing.

Only thing I can think of I did differently was I was down the shore and had put a lot of sun block on my arms prior to shooting up. I tried my best to get rid of it but there may still have been some. Would that cause this?

What you did was accidentaly shoot up into an artety. Its not safe, and its very uncomfortable and causes the exact symptoms your are describing. Just take some benadryl and it should go away almost instantaneously.

Ive done it before too and its not fun....but I can guarantee you that's what you did.....so just dont shoot up in the same spot anymore, or be very careful that you are in a vein rather than an artery. Sometimes its hard to tell.

The first time I did it I was shooting up in the same spot like always, but somehow I managed to get into an artery and all of a sudden I had red spots ALL over my body and it itched like hell but all you gotta do is take an anti-histamine.
 
So I want to try heroin again...for some weird reason. I am not craving it what so ever, never think about it. But I kinda of want to see what I fucked up my life so much for.

So my question is, how much does suboxone raise your tolerance?

I've only been on subs for a little over a month. 6-8mg daily. Sometimes 2mg will hold me. But for the most part I am taking a full 8mg a day. So does suboxone ruin your tolerance? Will I need 2x as much heroin as before?

Thanks :)

When I was on sub maint. my tolerance actually went up. Bupe is a pretty potent opioid, even if only a partial agonist.
 
What you did was accidentaly shoot up into an artety. Its not safe, and its very uncomfortable and causes the exact symptoms your are describing. Just take some benadryl and it should go away almost instantaneously.

Ive done it before too and its not fun....but I can guarantee you that's what you did.....so just dont shoot up in the same spot anymore, or be very careful that you are in a vein rather than an artery. Sometimes its hard to tell.

The first time I did it I was shooting up in the same spot like always, but somehow I managed to get into an artery and all of a sudden I had red spots ALL over my body and it itched like hell but all you gotta do is take an anti-histamine.

Thanks for the reply but I dont think it was an artery. It's possible but nothing gave me the indication I was in one. I shot into the same vein I've been using for years and it was dark red blood, no pain when injecting, no signs of being in an artery at all. Plus I am feeling the suboxone normally, thought if you hit an artery you don't get "high" or feel the drug you inject?

other thing I thought of that may have caused it:

1. I used a rig I had been re-using for a long time, no numbers even on it anymore. Maybe some kind of bacteria infection?

I'll take some benadryl and see if that helps though. %)
 
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i believe my tolerance also went up after a few months on bupe. when i took a short break i needed much more opiate than i did before maintanence
 
Bupe will raise your tolerance pretty substantially, IMO. I went once from like 0.5mg bupe snorted/ day to 120mg oxycodone/ day to get good effects. Even now with my dose slightly smaller, if I want to sneak in some oxycodone, I still will need at least 60mg to satisfy me for maybe 3-4 hours (after a 36 hour break from bupe or so...)
 
I'm on suboxone the longest I've ever been :) about 3 weeks. Although, I know that tomorrow I will use Oxy.

I've set it up so that I've tapered over the last 3 days so that I will feel the effect from it tomorrow. I've only had 1mg today, and I actually don't feel that bad at all. i know sub has a long half life but I was expexcting to feel pretty crappy. especially because my first few days on subs I was taking probably 12-16mg.

But yeah, it was kind of a good feeling to stay on it that long.

I'm hoping that my tolerance to full opiates will be lessened during this time.

Good job Ashley! 3 weeks on Suboxone isn't bad at all. I can tell you are making progress, so good for you!

Yeah, the full agonist opiate tolerance should have dropped, but how far it dropped down, or how long it'll stay down there, is another question. But you'll figure those things out as you go along. :)

in the U.S. yes. i recently found out. it's apparently has very nice opiate-sparing effects. was interested on effects and whatnot.

Marezine / Bonine for Kids are the only two formulations I can see offered in America. On the Bonine website, it says if a pharmacy does it carry it, you can ask the pharmacist to order it for you? Have anyone tried this?

Interesting! Thanks for the info; I have not tried that at all, but thank you for the heads up. I'll look into it.

Yest and today when I shot my suboxone (around 1mg) I have been getting these really tiny red pimples forming, like hundreds of them, up my arms (esp the one i shot in) and all over my neck and chest down to my waist. They itch like crazy. Wondering if anyone knows what this is, it's not like a normal histamine reaction which goes away soon after. It usually lasts a couple hours sometimes reappearing and disappearing.

Only thing I can think of I did differently was I was down the shore and had put a lot of sun block on my arms prior to shooting up. I tried my best to get rid of it but there may still have been some. Would that cause this?

I have no idea why that has happened to you; I have done thousands of shots of bupe and that's never happened to me.

Good luck on figuring out what's going on! I hope it's nothing too serious.

The latest "red dots on skin" I've been reading up on are Karposi's Sarcoma, caused by the HHV-8 virus (human herpes virus 8 ). However, you would only really have this if you were immuno-compromised (i.e. you have AIDS, etc.).

What you did was accidentaly shoot up into an artety. Its not safe, and its very uncomfortable and causes the exact symptoms your are describing. Just take some benadryl and it should go away almost instantaneously.

Ive done it before too and its not fun....but I can guarantee you that's what you did.....so just dont shoot up in the same spot anymore, or be very careful that you are in a vein rather than an artery. Sometimes its hard to tell.

The first time I did it I was shooting up in the same spot like always, but somehow I managed to get into an artery and all of a sudden I had red spots ALL over my body and it itched like hell but all you gotta do is take an anti-histamine.

If you inject into an artery, you should go to the ER immediately.
 
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"If you inject into an artery, you should go to the ER immediately."

That may be true...but when I did it, all I had to do was take benadryl and I was 100% better within 2 minutes.

Your right though, it is a VERY serious situation, but I thought it mainly causes a major histamine reaction which is why I was able to stop it immediately with an antihistamine.

Any ideas on why I was able to control a situation that warranted an ER visit so quickly?
 
"If you inject into an artery, you should go to the ER immediately."

That may be true...but when I did it, all I had to do was take benadryl and I was 100% better within 2 minutes.

Your right though, it is a VERY serious situation, but I thought it mainly causes a major histamine reaction which is why I was able to stop it immediately with an antihistamine.

Any ideas on why I was able to control a situation that warranted an ER visit so quickly?

It depends on what you were injecting. If you hit an artery when injecting something with a lot of crap/filler that hasn't been filtered out, that is what's most likely to block circulation of blood/nutrients to the extremities. (You can see pictures of what this will eventually do to someone in the Case Studies thread)

Are you sure you injected into the artery?
 
I tried buying some coke today and got sold heroin instead, 4 little bags probally containing .1-.2mg total of heroin at best. Ive been on 4mg IV suboxone the past 8 months so i figured i wouldnt feel it but did it anyway cause i didnt want to just throw it out. So i IV'd it and felt pretty much nothing. I had taken around 2mg of sub IV around 3 P.m today and did the shot of heroin around 7 P.M. So i wanna do my night shot of 1mg of sub, but am worried i might go into PWDS...any chance that would happen if i didnt even feel the heroin cause of the sub i had in my system??
 
I highly doubt it, the buprenorphine is still on your receptors due to its long half life.....even if you took some heroin earlier. Thats why you didnt feel the heroin, the bupe wouldnt budge one nanometer for it to take hold of your receptors, to get you high. Therefore, you have no heroin on your receptors for the suboxone to push off, causing you to go into PW's.

It should be the same as if you were IV'ing your sub like any other day.

But, if you wait a long time(around 2-3 days) after your last suboxone dose, then dose some suboxone(especially if you used heroin in that time period) you do have a chance of PW.
 
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