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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v.4 The Orangeman Cometh

TheBiblePimp79 said:
Hi, I know I'm in the wrong forum but there aren't many people on. I have been off Fetty for almost 4 days. I drink and in going through alcohol withdrawal. Would Suboxone help with the alcohol withdrawals? Please help
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It would help with the headache and body aches. But not the DTs and seizure risk, actually buprenorphine is known to sometimes cause seizures
 
deficiT said:
Week two of zubsolv starts today. Still going smoothly, been taking it as prescribed, 5.7mg 2x a day. I used to just dose mg 16mg Suboxone all at once, but I'm hoping that dosing twice just gets me more coverage throughout the days instead of just having one large more strong dose.
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Is chronic pain part of why you take zub?
 
Man67 said:
Main difference between Subs and Zub? 🤔
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Zub has a higher bioavailabilty formulation, so the doses are lower but still equivalent. For example 5.7mg zub is 8mg Sub. The tablets for Zub just dissolve easier, work better, and don't taste like ass, in my experience anyway.

They are otherwise the exact same substance, just a different formulation.
 
deficiT said:
Zub has a higher bioavailabilty formulation, so the doses are lower but still equivalent. For example 5.7mg zub is 8mg Sub. The tablets for Zub just dissolve easier, work better, and don't taste like ass, in my experience anyway.

They are otherwise the exact same substance, just a different formulation.
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Interesting! I wonder how ZUB compares to parking a SUB buccally as if it were a little ball of chewing tobacco, between your cheek and gums of your jaw, then dripping a drop of EVERCLEAR in the same spot, then pushing against your cheek with your finger to push the bupe into the openings being made in those parts of your mouth by alcohol? Lol, seems so complicated when I write it out!
Am I the only one to ever try this, this poor-mans Zubsolv? Lol!
 
CfZrx said:
Interesting! I wonder how ZUB compares to parking a SUB buccally as if it were a little ball of chewing tobacco, between your cheek and gums of your jaw, then dripping a drop of EVERCLEAR in the same spot, then pushing against your cheek with your finger to push the bupe into the openings being made in those parts of your mouth by alcohol? Lol, seems so complicated when I write it out!
Am I the only one to ever try this, this poor-mans Zubsolv? Lol!
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That might be how it gets done in the Mad Max universe, but no can't say I've ever tried or heard of that lol 😂
 
CfZrx said:
Interesting! I wonder how ZUB compares to parking a SUB buccally as if it were a little ball of chewing tobacco, between your cheek and gums of your jaw, then dripping a drop of EVERCLEAR in the same spot, then pushing against your cheek with your finger to push the bupe into the openings being made in those parts of your mouth by alcohol? Lol, seems so complicated when I write it out!
Am I the only one to ever try this, this poor-mans Zubsolv? Lol!
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Never heard of this. I just place the Sub. strip under my tongue and wait about 10 min. until dissolve. What are the benefits of the method you just mentioned? 🤔
 
Man67 said:
Never heard of this. I just place the Sub. strip under my tongue and wait about 10 min. until dissolve. What are the benefits of the method you just mentioned? 🤔
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Hi Man67,
It's just a shot in the dark. I figured that it would work better since it appears that bioavailability is quite increased by adding a tiny bit of alcohol, and because the best way to let the bupe coat your mouth for the longest amount of time is to park it like a chew between the lower gums and the cheek.

It seems that placing the strip under the tongue only rarely goes as hoped. Only if your mouth is exceedingly dry and your are super dehydrated does sublingual placement make sense. But that's not a fun state to be in IME (dehydrated). Better to be fully hydrated AND improve bioavailability to the max :)
 
CfZrx said:
Hi Man67,
It's just a shot in the dark. I figured that it would work better since it appears that bioavailability is quite increased by adding a tiny bit of alcohol, and because the best way to let the bupe coat your mouth for the longest amount of time is to park it like a chew between the lower gums and the cheek.

It seems that placing the strip under the tongue only rarely goes as hoped. Only if your mouth is exceedingly dry and your are super dehydrated does sublingual placement make sense. But that's not a fun state to be in IME (dehydrated). Better to be fully hydrated AND improve bioavailability to the max :)
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I always rinse my mouth with a tiny bit of water before taking Subs. Should I try it with the dry mouth (when I wake up)? Is it Bupe more potent that way? 🤔
 
After my tolerance for oxy jumped from 40mg. Day to hundreds all of a sudden I knew I was in shit, with no supply available and no detox’s either I went and took morphine witnessed everyday at a pharmacy through this clinic here. anyways it’s become a huge hassle and now I’m more than happy to not have to witness dose my morphine everyday and be done with all this… they sold me on suboxone finally I guess I cab have a month prescription and get some freedom so here we are

Just started suboxone micro induction a few days ago, I’m up to 2 2mg tablets twice a day now. It jumps up pretty fast to an eventual dose of 24 daily within 6 more days… i was and am taking 1200mg of Eslon and about 200-300mg of oxy snorted a day. Eventually it’s all getting cutoff when I reach maximum dose, Now I got a couple questions guys i really need a clear answer on.

How do I get the least naloxone while taking my suboxone? Swallow spit? Rinse my mouth out after? Etc

What’s the best time to take my suboxone? I’ve been taking it about 11 hours after my last morphine dose, then I take one of my twice a day morphine doses after. This way in my mind the suboxone is coming when I’m at the peak possible withdrawal.. being as I take it twice a day and so on.. get it?

Ok any other tips would be good I know exactly zero people on this stuff so I’m counting on you guys haha. Most of my buddies that use just buy a lot of fent at once and smoke it as they like. I’m the only guy who kept spending thousands a month on oxy roughly 7grand a month
 
Hollowpoint2020 said:
After my tolerance for oxy jumped from 40mg. Day to hundreds all of a sudden I knew I was in shit, with no supply available and no detox’s either I went and took morphine witnessed everyday at a pharmacy through this clinic here. anyways it’s become a huge hassle and now I’m more than happy to not have to witness dose my morphine everyday and be done with all this… they sold me on suboxone finally I guess I cab have a month prescription and get some freedom so here we are

Just started suboxone micro induction a few days ago, I’m up to 2 2mg tablets twice a day now. It jumps up pretty fast to an eventual dose of 24 daily within 6 more days… i was and am taking 1200mg of Eslon and about 200-300mg of oxy snorted a day. Eventually it’s all getting cutoff when I reach maximum dose, Now I got a couple questions guys i really need a clear answer on.

How do I get the least naloxone while taking my suboxone? Swallow spit? Rinse my mouth out after? Etc

What’s the best time to take my suboxone? I’ve been taking it about 11 hours after my last morphine dose, then I take one of my twice a day morphine doses after. This way in my mind the suboxone is coming when I’m at the peak possible withdrawal.. being as I take it twice a day and so on.. get it?

Ok any other tips would be good I know exactly zero people on this stuff so I’m counting on you guys haha. Most of my buddies that use just buy a lot of fent at once and smoke it as they like. I’m the only guy who kept spending thousands a month on oxy roughly 7grand a month
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Not sure about Naloxone but plenty of people use a spit method. I tried and haven't seen any difference. Even if you manage to do that you won't get high. They have Sublocade injection which is pure Bupe and it's taken once a month. Nobody got high so far. You will get the best effect if you take your strip on an empty stomach. That's why l take it first thing in the morning. Right after l wake up. And remember the golden rule of 15. No food or drink 15 minutes before taking Subs and 15 minutes after the strip disolves. Good luck! ✌️
 
Man67 said:
Not sure about Naloxone but plenty of people use a spit method. I tried and haven't seen any difference. Even if you manage to do that you won't get high. They have Sublocade injection which is pure Bupe and it's taken once a month. Nobody got high so far. You will get the best effect if you take your strip on an empty stomach. That's why l take it first thing in the morning. Right after l wake up. And remember the golden rule of 15. No food or drink 15 minutes before taking Subs and 15 minutes after the strip disolves. Good luck! ✌️
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I've just been to another forum (FB) and some people claim that they got high on Subs. But they weren't using before. That is why. 🤔
 
CfZrx said:
Hi Man67,
It's just a shot in the dark. I figured that it would work better since it appears that bioavailability is quite increased by adding a tiny bit of alcohol, and because the best way to let the bupe coat your mouth for the longest amount of time is to park it like a chew between the lower gums and the cheek.

It seems that placing the strip under the tongue only rarely goes as hoped. Only if your mouth is exceedingly dry and your are super dehydrated does sublingual placement make sense. But that's not a fun state to be in IME (dehydrated). Better to be fully hydrated AND improve bioavailability to the max :)
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I try to keep the strip as far as possible from my teeth. Every single one has a filling and l'm afraid that the acid is gonna ruin them. I wish l have enough money to fix them or put an implant. So under the tongue remains my only option. I heard that some people mix it with water in a tiny spoon and then snort it. Anybody tried that method? 🤔
 
I just got started on suboxone yesterday.
Going from MS Contin to Suboxone.
It is rough.

Will this incessant sweating stop?
is that just at first or maybe it is due to pain? IDK.
My body is not liking this but it is all I can get now.
 
deficiT said:
No, not particularly. I've actually decided to start tapering off now. Tired of being trapped in the cycle.
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Do it!
No reason at all for this torture if you are not in chronic pain.

I wish I could just be rid of this but that is not an option anymore.
 
Painful One said:
I just got started on suboxone yesterday.
Going from MS Contin to Suboxone.
It is rough.

Will this incessant sweating stop?
is that just at first or maybe it is due to pain? IDK.
My body is not liking this but it is all I can get now.
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Don't worry about the sweating. I was the same for the first 2-3 months. The most important thing at the beginning is to figure out the right dose. My Dr. got me started at 16mg and I am now at 4mg. I tried going down to 2mg but it was too low and my chronic headache was killing me. Everyone is different so you are the one who will decide what's right for you. And by the way, larger dose doesn't mean bigger high. On the contrary. Good luck. ✌️
 
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