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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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getting off the subs

i would consider myself to have an above average understand of drugs, the body and mind, and the affects of drugs on the body and mind. i have used everything you can think of and always, always, always reserach anything i do in advance before doing so.

my addiciton has taken me down the road of opiates (def my DOC). from percs, to roxis, to OCS, to dope. i went on SMP (suboxone mataince prog) about 7 months ago. i was on the sub for a month and went back to diesel. even since then i would be on the dope for a while (3months straight) and then on the sub for a few days, then back on the diesel, and back and forth...as im sure this is a familar story to most.

i just recently moved to Louisiana from NJ and have been without dope for 7 days. for those 7days ive been on the suboxone. the first day i took a half (4mg) which got me stable for the most part. later in the nite i took another quarter (roughly 2mg). since then ive taken only a quarter, once a day.

my question is, and please if anyone can give a personal expierecne or advice it would be greatly appreciated, if i was to stop taking the suboxone now, after only taking a quarter (2mg) for 6-7 days straight, how would my widthdrawl be. im thinking that after a pretty good dope habit that even if i stopped the subs now i would still be sick just from not having the dope, let alone the suboxone.

i have been researching opiod receptors and heroin and bupes affect on them...but i still am not sure exactly how i would feel since its only been a week.

ANY THOUGHTS OR ADVICE IS WELCOME

Thanks everyone.
 
Ok well you should check the suboxone megathread for you answer.

But, for you answer it is suggest that you get on the smallest does possible for around 2 weeks. 2mg is still high you should be aiming for 1/2mg. You should also know that suboxone comes in 2mg dosage. Personally i came of 4mg's myself and i suffered horribly for a week, then two weeks of still withdrawing.
 
imo you wd would be felt more from the sub than the dope. seeing that 2mg is keeping you stable now i dont exactly think you gotta worry to much bout getting symptoms from not doing dope. you got a week away from it now. i would tell you to not cold turkey on the sub and taper yourself out another week, that ways you should be in the clear of any type of wd. maybe alil discomfort but def not full blown dope sick
 
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SWIM OPIATES said:
Ok well you should check the suboxone megathread for you answer.
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Right on man.

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Eight0Eight said:
After a 3 day heroin relapse, I'm clean again.

Weirdly, it was easier kicking smack, then it was subutex.

I'm never getting on that stuff again.
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Sorry to hear mate, but it's good to hear you're clean. A 3 day H relapse is pushing it, but you can certainly get away with it a lot easier than any duration longer than that.

For me, it's a lot easier to be in control when using Suboxone, hence why I prefer it to heroin.

i.am.mookie said:
i would consider myself to have an above average understand of drugs, the body and mind, and the affects of drugs on the body and mind. i have used everything you can think of and always, always, always reserach anything i do in advance before doing so.

my addiciton has taken me down the road of opiates (def my DOC). from percs, to roxis, to OCS, to dope. i went on SMP (suboxone mataince prog) about 7 months ago. i was on the sub for a month and went back to diesel. even since then i would be on the dope for a while (3months straight) and then on the sub for a few days, then back on the diesel, and back and forth...as im sure this is a familar story to most.

i just recently moved to Louisiana from NJ and have been without dope for 7 days. for those 7days ive been on the suboxone. the first day i took a half (4mg) which got me stable for the most part. later in the nite i took another quarter (roughly 2mg). since then ive taken only a quarter, once a day.

my question is, and please if anyone can give a personal expierecne or advice it would be greatly appreciated, if i was to stop taking the suboxone now, after only taking a quarter (2mg) for 6-7 days straight, how would my widthdrawl be. im thinking that after a pretty good dope habit that even if i stopped the subs now i would still be sick just from not having the dope, let alone the suboxone.

i have been researching opiod receptors and heroin and bupes affect on them...but i still am not sure exactly how i would feel since its only been a week.

ANY THOUGHTS OR ADVICE IS WELCOME

Thanks everyone.
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1 to 3 weeks. You may not even experience a WD.

Some people experience some WD symptoms up to 6 weeks after abrupt cessation of Suboxone (not tapering), so tapering will help reduce the withdrawal period with this drug.

Next time just post in here and we'll get to you.
 
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thanks everyone. i appreciate the advice. since i have never "detoxed" from subs i really didnt know what to think. after reading a lot of posts on the site, some saying the w/d from suboxone is worse than dope and vice versa. i can understand why some would say sub w/d is terrible since it stays on the receptor for so long and the body has to adjust.

see the thing is, i moved from NJ (3 miles from Camden) where dope was more than available, to Louisiana (bout 45 min from New Orleans) where i know there is dope, but havent ever coped there. so if i get sick and i have no subs, its not like i can take a 5 min drive and cop and be fine before i know it. i have a *limited* number of subs and im just trying to do the taper thing correctly. like i said im pretty smart when it comes to understand this shit and i know that the tapering thing is the best route.

so captain ur saying just take about 1/2mg or 1mg a day....then prob goto 1/2mg every other day, then 1/2 mg every 2 days, then i should stop? any more tips or advice you or any other person can give me would be great. and thanks again everyone.
 
i.am.mookie said:
so captain ur saying just take about 1/2mg or 1mg a day....then prob goto 1/2mg every other day, then 1/2 mg every 2 days, then i should stop? any more tips or advice you or any other person can give me would be great. and thanks again everyone.
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Sure, I think that's a great idea. Tapering even further down might even be more helpful, though for some people they would feel comfortable jumping off of 0.5mg/every other day.

Let me know if that works for you and if you have any other questions.

When you get to the lower doses, if you're starting to feel some WD symptoms, you can use high proof alcohol under the tongue w/ the Suboxone to help potentiate it (increases BA of buprenorphine when taken sublingually at the same time) - this will help with tapering immensely.

Other options include using diphenhydramine hcl, or benzos to help aid in the detox process.

Hope that helped.
 
when suboxone sucks

ok, so i've stopped taking my suboxone. been sober for a bout a month. been trying to stay sober and it's been working out. but tonight i decided to get high one last time for a long time because my parents are away on vacation and i have the house to myself. i tried getting some coke earlier, and my dealer wasn't available so i got pissed off and slammed about a quater of a 8mg pill. anyways long story short, i am barely feeling the 5 bags i did, lol. i wish i felt even a little bit more. i got some of the taste but that's it. so my question is. if i go to sleep. not take anymore suboxone and try again tonight to get high again. will it work? will i get high? or will the suboxone still block the dope? i'm so sad that it didn't work. but i'm glad i have off today so i can try it again. i'm just pissed that i spent all of my money trying to get high.
p.s. i had to settle with freebase instead of powder coke which is what i was trying to get.
 
Well you know that one last time shit has bad consequences a lot of the times. But suboxone always blocked that shit for me for like 2 days. Maybe even longer it's been a while. I just know i spent like fucking $90 on 30's trying to get a buzz and didn't get shit. I'm sure it would work better the second night, but don't fall back into the shit which would be real easy.
 
Johnny blue said:
Wait op, are you saying that suboxone blocked cocaine or what? I asumed that you meant heroin but, you keep saying coke.
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I'm reading the same thing...and I don't think the sub should block cocaine.

If you took a quarter of an 8mg sub and slammed 5 bags of dope, then it should definitely break through. If it's coke, maybe he sold you some sacks of caffeine?

Give us more details / elaboration please.
 
I recall reading a study involving 100 subjects that 8 mg of Sub blocked on average between 32-35% of the mu receptors in the subjects on average. 16 mg of Sub blocked between 92-96% of the mu receptors in the subjects. Anything > than 16 all but completely blocked all of the subjects mu receptors. As such, getting high was possible on 8 mg, although the effects were mitigated and the "rush" was greatly reduced. On 16 mg, subjects reported almost no feeling from the mu agonist opioid. At higher doses, nothing was felt.

Given the long half life of bupe (37.5 hours) and that it vacates the receptors very slowly, it will take some time before you can get a proper high from dope again. Anecdotal evidence has purported that it may take upwards of 5 days before one gets a good, normal rush and hit from dope again after taking sub for any length of time. Obviously, the longer you abstain, the effects of the dope will begin to become more and more pronounced until all of the bupe vacates the mu receptors in your CNS.

Good luck getting stoned mate!

peace
 
yea, i'm talking about dope. i'm saying i had to settle for coke though. the coke worked fine. and the dope was real cause my boy was nodding hardcore.
 
The longer you can wait, obviously the better. Why would you slam suboxone if you were just going to shoot dope later anyway? Whatever the case, you will likely feel more from the dope tomorrow night than you did tonight. I know that when I took suboxone while actively addicted to poppy tea I probably waited about 3 days before using and then I got nicely high, but that is the only experience i have.
 
I used to always give it at least 24 hours from the time I last took some bupe to do some dope. Seemed to work out pretty good, but obviously the longer you wait the more you'll get out of it.
 
be careful slamming dope while on suboxone, since it blocks most the opiate effects overdosing without realizing it is a real deal.
 
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