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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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BingeBoy said:
I was wondering if anybody ever tried taking their suboxone orally?
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I know people who aren't very intelligent and take their suboxone orally, because they think that once the pill is dissolved into their saliva, in that first minute or two, its all done and they swallow it. (retards.)

However, since their intelligence is lacking, it would be impossible to use them as test subject, to see if the side effects from naloxone are diminished, or if the conversion to norbupe is increased, etc.

Its funny though, these people take wayyyy more bupe than they need, and waste their money. If they took it correctly, they could easily fill their prescriptions for half as much and save a ton of money. Oh well, sucks for them...
 
Yeah, BB covered it.

It sounds like you just took them too early. Dont take subs till you are actually in withdrawals. And by that I do NOT mean when withdrawals start to set in. Wait till you actually hurt a little bit.

That is only if you have taken another opiate to get high within the last 36 hours. If you take sub everyday, you can take more sub whenever you want.
 
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yes most people in rehab who took sub like me where like wtf you keep it in your mouth for 10 minutes afterwards? In fact i read a study that found the bioavailibilty of sub dissolved in water to be 40-50 instead of around 30 , which i think can only be attributed to most people just swallowing it too early or could it be ph related?.

p.s the staff in rehab was even more retarded for some reason they came up with you can't talk while it's dissolving while i had to sit in that office for 10 minutes like 4 times a day which id pretty annoying even more so when people assume you are such a moron that you can't say a few words without swallowing the liquid/pill .

p.s.s the study also had some interesting information on metabolites apparently the same levels are registered after oral ingestion so the 90% loss of bupe is mainly hepatic
 
When i got the seeds i had to go for a long walk and the walk actually helped me and i was able to fall asleep for about 15 minutes. And the walk calmed my RLS-- just a tad.

I didn't drink the tea. I'm saving it for tomorrow.

RPG
 
maybe 10mg wasn't enough. sometimes people need up to 24mg of suboxone for it to hold them. some people aren't held by suboxone at all if their tolerance is high enough. I dont really think this applies to you seeing that you drink poppy seed tea, your tolerance can't be too high, at all.
 
Cows Scale

I notice people take subs too early all the time on here, and it isnt necessary to have that confusion. Follow this link, which is the Clinical Observation withdrawl scale. A score above 25 is what you want in order to start sub.

Maybe one of our fabulous mods could fit this into a thread where it would be useful. Maybe the OD Directory unner Sub.


As for Roxi- you use a few long acting meds, if I recall. That means it takes you longer to reach that desired point to start sub. Check out this scale and see what you think.

http://www.suboxone.com/pdfs/OWR.pdf
 
^ putting in OD directory right now.

Thanks. Thats an awesome link. Im going to start using it when I dose my suboxone just for the hell of it to see how I rate.
 
Yea, i think i started the subs to early. I'm feeling a little better but my upper legs still hurt and ache so bad and i keep having hot flashes-- like when you get embarassed, how your face gets all hot and your ears.

I don't want to take anymore subs because I'd rather have tea tomorrow. But, i am tempted to take another 4 mgs but Im gonna try not too.

Thanks for all the info and not flaming me. I really appreciate the info.

RPG
 
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you will probably feel ok in the morning

i hope so anyways

good luck and good night

I'm putting this into the mega-thread so i can be a reminder for other people
 
Yea i feel a little better. It's been 12 hours since i had any subs. I don't plan on taking anymore. Just want it to wear off so i can drink my tea. I normally order pods this time of month but I'm broke.

About 4 am my legs actually calmed down and i fell asleep for a few hours and that felt so good! My legs are hurting a little bit now, I'm doing a little rocking back and forth out of discomfort. But my legs feel 75% better than they did 12 hours ago.

I end up taking about 14 mgs of subs yesterday and that last 4 mgs is what did it.

And I know when you put it under your tongue you have to hold it. Swallowing any is pointless. It's hard though. Sometimes i do end up swallowing a little but i try very hard not to. I figure even though it'is dissolved it's still under your tongue so i don't swallow it, i try to hold it there longer.

Thanks for merging the thread.
Thanks for all the info

RPG
 
It's been about 18 hours since I've taken any subs, can i have my seed tea now or would it still be pointless? I remember one time, i was off subs for 12 hours and made some pod tea and i actually felt it but i think i didn't take as much subs as i did this time. I think i did 10 mgs than and this time it was 14.

I actually feel pretty good but i don't have enough subs to continue this unfortunately, othewise i might since i feel pretty good. My leg pain is like 90% gone. I head feels foggy though, like i took to much psuedophedrine or something.

Anyway, so is 18 hours long enough or do i have to hold out the whole 24-37 hours?

RPG
 
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I would wait when you use sub regularely it's eliminated a lot quicker but for somebody like you the half life would still be 40 hours , try taking your poppy seed tea tomorrow afternoon.

it sounds like the sub is working , it's a weird substance to be honest lol

p.s you could try taking a little if you really can't wait but if you don't feel anything don't increase your dose , seems pretty pointless though since im 80% sure you won't feel anything
 
Hey thanks for the info. Ok.. I'll try a little and see what happens.
I don't want to waste it.

RPG
 
Strange-- I'm kinda feeling the tea. I got a boost of energy but that could be a placebo because the tea i made was pretty weak because i only bought a few bottles. Tomorrow I'm going to buy some bulk seeds.

But, i think I'm feeling it. Morphine takes a long time to get through my whole system so if it is working it will take a few more hours for this lingering leg pain to go away, if at all. Hopefully it will hold me through the night. I also have some Tramadol.

Again, thanks for the info. I know these questions I've asked have been asked over and over. Thanks for not doing the UTFSE LOL

RPG
 
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tramadol is said to work with buprenorphine , seems to be the only opiate that does.

oh and it is possible that you feel the tea since only about 4 mg of the sub was taken in the right way and maybe because of that not all your receptors are blocked like i said sub is a weird subtance

p.s even on the street i always help people in withdrawal out if i can spare something or do something for them , treatothers as you wish to be treated ey!
 
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oh yea, i feel it but it's not as strong as it usually is. But, my leg pain is all but gone. FINALLy, that was driving me nuts. I'm just going to drink a bit more tea, i kinda did a second wash but there was still stuff left over from yesterday when i drained it because i was to lazy to drain it all when i learned it would be pointless. This second wash taste so nasty though.

Yea subs are strange. And I've always taken Trams with Subs, never had a problem but i take less of the trams when i do subs-- just to be on the safe side.

I thnk your right. The first couple times i took the subs i did swallow a little but than i got the hang of it and just didn't move my tongue for 15 minutes and that's when i noticed it worked better so i probably had way less than 14mgs.

Again-- thanks

RPG
 
Hey I'm all for helping people out..one day i was a the buss stop and this kid and old man were like shaking. And for some reason i just said to them "Are you in withdrawal" and the old man said "yes we are" I said "Hang on" I walked over to my purse and got some of my Tramadol. I handed it to them and said "This is Tramadol, it might help" OMG YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE SMILE ON THEIR FACES! There was more to it than that but that's the basic story. The old man put a few in his pocket for later while the kid popped them all. They seemed kinda lost to me. The kid was a transvestite hooker.

These are people I'll never see again and i hate seeing people suffer, so i try to help when i can because lord knows how awful w/d is.

RPG
 
D's said:
my suboxone is tasting worse and worse everyday, theres been times when i've thrown up due to the taste of the suboxone. It gives me a headache, and theres time when I dont want to take anymore. To people who have been on suboxone for a while now, how do you cope with the taste?
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I find it interesting how some people dislike the taste so much. I actually kinda enjoy the taste. Odd!
 
PureLife said:
maybe 10mg wasn't enough. sometimes people need up to 24mg of suboxone for it to hold them. some people aren't held by suboxone at all if their tolerance is high enough. I dont really think this applies to you seeing that you drink poppy seed tea, your tolerance can't be too high, at all.
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I dunno man, I nod on PST all the time and I have a very high tolerance. If you can get GOOD seeds than you can make on helluva potent cocktail.:)
 
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