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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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yeah that's one of the new ones, i think, and i was wondering that same thing...
 
I think it was the damn soma and the shitty ass trazadone and seroquel that made her so fucked up. I wanted to punch her in the face. How are you gonna let your very young son cry all the time and find you passed out from all those fucking pills, and then take andvantage of a friend that has MS and have her clean your house and then steal her pills on top of that? I swear to god I'd jump the lady.
 
So, I have been on 6mg/day of suboxone for one week now. I just took my third pill for the day and I feel strangely dizzy. I probabl should have just stuck with the 2 pills I took this morning and skipped the 3rd pill today. I think I'm going to just take 2mg tomorrow and then actually see if I'm dependant on the suboxone now and see how long I could go without taking any.




I've noticed that I've become significantly more isolated while taking this medicine. I' m not sure why. I think it actually may be me just wanting to stay away from all the shit that could fuck me over. I'm not talking to a lot of people I used to speak with and all I seem to want to do is stay at home and register for school/talk to my mom/fill out applications. I don't know. It's weird. I went out the other night and the whole time I just really wanted to go back to my mother's house. I see the benefits and drawbacks both with this. While I do want to stay away from bad influences I don't want to become complelely isolated. Anyone have any experiences with this? Is my dose too high? any thoughts are appreciated.
 
Let me give you my direct experience

Bupe is great, but a whole another opiate demon in its own right..

You have to take Bupe Everday when is it the most euphoric.....??



There is one thing i have learned about Bupe..
As for Euphoria..

LESS IS MORE!!!
 
Yeah I was just prescribed 2mg 3 times a day. I took 4mg this morning at one time and I just recently took the third pill. I feel crappy. Definetly getting the drift I don't need this much in a day. I've got a headache, pin-pointed pupils (have had this since it started.) and havent used the bathroom in at least a week. My mind kind of races at night. At first it was a good energy feeling, now it's just a stressful feeling. I know I'm gonna be around oxycontin a little later on in the week and I don't want to take any, but I'm gonna know it's there. Thats another thing on my mind. I'm smoking cigarrettes like a fiend.

I'm definetly just going to try 2mg/day from now on.
 
^ You know that you can't get high from other opiates while on suboxone, right? The buprenorphine has a high binding affinity for mu opioid receptors so it will block the effects of any other opiate. This is why you can go into precipitated withdrawal if you take suboxone while you're already high on another opiate.
It definitely sounds like 4mg is too much for you to take at once. The headache MIGHT be from the naloxone in the pill. Did it go away after an hour or 2?

You're in pretty good shape if 6mg/day is more than enough to keep you content. I take about twice that and I've been trying to taper for a few months. My doctor isn't trying to rush me, so I'm taking it slow. See if you can get away with 4mg/day and keep trying to work your way down.
 
sonic said:
^ You know that you can't get high from other opiates while on suboxone, right? The buprenorphine has a high binding affinity for mu opioid receptors so it will block the effects of any other opiate. This is why you can go into precipitated withdrawal if you take suboxone while you're already high on another opiate.
It definitely sounds like 4mg is too much for you to take at once. The headache MIGHT be from the naloxone in the pill. Did it go away after an hour or 2?

You're in pretty good shape if 6mg/day is more than enough to keep you content. I take about twice that and I've been trying to taper for a few months. My doctor isn't trying to rush me, so I'm taking it slow. See if you can get away with 4mg/day and keep trying to work your way down.
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yeah I know. I'm on suboxone because I don't want to get high anymore. In fact I went back on suboxone a week ago and I wasn't even detoxing from anything. It's been a year since I've had a heroin habit.
 
Emily said:
I wasn't on anything when I was prescribed suboxone this time so for about the first week I felt energy and slightly buzzed (even though that's not really what I'm looking for.) I just felt content and had enough energy to get things done. I'm prescribed 2mg 3 times daily. I guess the "buzz" kind of wore out a couple days ago. I think I just might try to take just 2mg a day for a while. I'm a little apprehensive about going against my doctor's orders but I think 2mg/day would be sufficient.

how long does suboxone stay in your system? I've heard that suboxone kind of works like an anitdepressant in the long wrong and I'm intrigued by this. Even after taking it for about a month will it still help with lethargy like it has this past week or will I become totally tolerant to it? will it help with aching in the long wrong also? For some reason (I think it may have something to do with the suboxone) I have seemed a little bit more secluded from people I have been very close to in the past. I seem to only want to be around my family.
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2mg sounds like a good dose to begin with. It depends on how you feel about uping your dose. Talk with your doctor first. The "buzz" will come again. (Buprenorphine is a thebaine derivative with powerful analgesia approximately twenty-five to forty times as potent as morphine.) Don't go and take like 24mg at once, if you feel you need to take more b/c your withdrawls are coming in harder just bump it up a little, not alot, like 1-2mg. Therefore your buzz should come back and one with life! Also suboxone staies in your system and people can drug test for it!!! A close friend of mine got booted from a oxford house b/c he had Buprenorphine in his system, and he was perscribed to it. Thats good ya wanna be with ya kinfolk, famly's love can heal addiction it seems like.(my op..) Take care!
 
Legally bound to refer for treatment?

A family member tells me that the Suboxone prescriber is legally bound to refer the patient to some sort of treatment program-- that it says so on NIH. What's the deal with this? I thought this thing could work in such a manner that the patient walks in, gets a script, leaves, and only needs to come back for medication related follow-up sessions. Or do most docs refer their patients to *themselves*?
 
^^ Well first of yea they do use suboxone alot more in treatment/detox centers than methadone, also you can just google suboxone, go to their main webpage, type in your zip code, and usually there will be a list of doctors in nehigborhood. Not just any doctor and perscribe suboxone, they have to be licenesed to perscribe it. The doctor I see for suboxone just talks to me about how things are going, and writes me a refill. I guess if you get really bad off drugs and dont have alot of money for suboxone you can always hit a detox up. From what I've learned on suboxone is it's a great drug to help my oc addiction. Makes me a little sick when I take it. I hate that god awful taste!
 
lyXw33d said:
A family member tells me that the Suboxone prescriber is legally bound to refer the patient to some sort of treatment program-- that it says so on NIH. What's the deal with this? I thought this thing could work in such a manner that the patient walks in, gets a script, leaves, and only needs to come back for medication related follow-up sessions. Or do most docs refer their patients to *themselves*?
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yeah I think this may be true. My doctor was talking to me like "well it's not going to do anything for cocaine and alcohol so I can't just put you on this medicine and have a clear conscience. You really should be in in-patient." So after all this, he put me on the suboxone. He was kind of acting like "he" didn't feel right just putting me on the medicine, but I think it may have to go along with the whole treatment process. Also, I just found out my insurance doesn't cover this bup group which is mandatory for anyone on suboxone so I'm not sure what's going to happen. If I paid cash it would be $45/week just for the group. Not to mention the prescription itself and everything else. I just can't afford all that.
 
Yo, I've been on suboxone for a month now. My doctor gave me 90 8mg suboxone, I was cool with it. for the first week or so I split the pills in quarters and took 2mg 3 times daily. After the second week I bumped it up to 3-4mg, started to take a little less than a half, so somewhere around 3.5mg I think. I was still feeling sick. The taste of them are so dirty nasty I have to bite the bullet to get them disolved. I was catching a nice buzz when I up'd the dose.( I really think my doctor diddn't put alot of thought into perscribeing me the suboxone.) Anyways I now take 4mg twice a day, (half of my 8mg), and I still feel a buzz. A bad one( like some chemical buzz). It's ok, I don't really like the buzz, but I like it alot better than methadone. Suboxone has helped me ALOT in my drug addiction. I'm not liking the buz anymore b/c when I go to work I just feel out of it. Also when I drive I feel drunk, like I cant focus on the road. I still make it though. As for the sickness caused by it I try to eat a nice good meal before I take the sub. It helps alot with some of the stomch problems I have on it. Try to lay down and just rest. If you really feel sick, like really really sick, make your self vomit( I know it's gross as fuck, but it makes you feel Alot better). This is my opnion on it dude, do whats right and more comfortable for you.
 
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bup group which is mandatory for anyone on suboxone
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Mandatory group? Is this true? Or can you just keep going do your sub doctor for 'treatment' if he happens to be in psychiatry too? And also, I guess it then makes more sense to not mention anything other than opiates when going to a sub doc so they don't treat you unjustly (maybe it's 'just', but eh just doesn't seem right) as Emily wrote in her post.
 
I can't get this shit to work.

I administered rectally and insufflated about 1mg

I feel only slight warmth, but pupils are still dilated , like they are always because of my efexor 225 mg daily dose.

I am disappointed. Opioid , yeah right, I have pain still in my muscles (post workout aches)
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ 1mg isn't much.

And I've heard from guys who like 'harder' opioids that bupe wasn't great for them either, except for quittin'.
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oh shit then.

Codeine is far better :(

but I can't get it now. damn it.

so 2 mg is the dose next in the evening , after grapefruit , grapefruit juice, orphenadrine etc.

And eating poppies (raw ones) doesn't help at all at this stage?

Will caffeine weaken the effects?
 
Madmike said:
oh shit then.

Codeine is far better :(

but I can't get it now. damn it.

so 2 mg is the dose next in the evening , after grapefruit , grapefruit juice, orphenadrine etc.

And eating poppies (raw ones) doesn't help at all at this stage?

Will caffeine weaken the effects?
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Sure, 2mg will help ha catch a nice(strange) nod. so for taking other opiates, you wont be able to feel em until your off the suboxone. I tried mixing grapefruit juice with my suboxone high, diidn't notice to much. Just made me sick, and with the poppies, your going to eat them? and no caffeine will just speed things up.
 
D's said:
Sure, 2mg will help ha catch a nice(strange) nod. so for taking other opiates, you wont be able to feel em until your off the suboxone. I tried mixing grapefruit juice with my suboxone high, diidn't notice to much. Just made me sick, and with the poppies, your going to eat them? and no caffeine will just speed things up.
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ok
I have about 6.5 mgs left. I need to get high from this shit, I don't have anything else. But diazepams.
 
6.5 left? Try snorting them. It's gonna feel weird. It's going to hit you alot quicker, and more powerfull than oral, and when the drip comes(dont blow your nose) just sit back and let it run down ya throat. I've done this many many times at 4mg and 8mg, they both had be noding out for 6hours +. for the valium, hold off on those until the suboxone is wearing off, its a deadly combo to mix benzos and central nervous system deppresments. Be verry carfull dude, you will die and wont know it. After inhaleing the suboxone try not to smoke withn the next 10 mins, so you know your going to get it all before. Or wait until you got the last nasal drip. Don't drive around after you do this dude, It's scary and hard as shit to focus on the road because of the chem.nod. Take care and be careful!!
 
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