Subjective comparisons of 4-aco-dmt, 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-p

[ASquishyApple]

I was wondering how anyone who has taken 2 or more of these would compare them with one another. I personally have tried only 4-aco-dmt but will soon acquire the aforementioned 2c's. I was hoping to get some comparisons with regard to stomach or gastrointestinal discomfort, visual effects, and how altered your perceptions and thought processes were.

I am currently researching these and working my way through all of the big and dandy threads on each respective chemical. I'm not asking what I should take as I plan to eventually try all of these. I'm just looking for some comparisons between the 4 so I can plan out which order I will try these in.

Apologies in advanced if this is a redundant thread. I don't think it is, but I often overlook things.

 

[TheAzo]

2C-E is a serious business psychedelic - the closest the 2C's come to acid, but with less of a positive push (so easier to end up in a darker trip)
2C-P is like 2C-E, only longer lasting and more confusing, and with a smaller active dose. Seems to have a markedly higher rate of negative responses than the others.
2C-I is emotionally shallower, and has qualitatively different visuals. More of a positive push than the other 2C's. The most forgiving of the four, by far. It also has a greater tendency than most psychedelics to result in lingering visual effects (minor and temporary - but don't be surprised by them).

In terms of nausea, people will argue on these. All of them produce more nausea than 4-AcO-DMT (which produces almost none), with most citing 2C-E and 2C-P as being worse. I experience slight nausea from 2C-I (on comeup), none from 4-AcO-DMT, and some nausea on the comeup of 2C-E. I don't remember whether there was any nausea with 2C-P, but others say there is - I haven't taken it in years (lots of negative stories posted about it, inconveniently long duration, and little to offer beyond 2C-E).

 

[LogicSoDeveloped]

2C-E is a serious business psychedelic - the closest the 2C's come to acid, but with less of a positive push (so easier to end up in a darker trip)
2C-P is like 2C-E, only longer lasting and more confusing, and with a smaller active dose. Seems to have a markedly higher rate of negative responses than the others.
2C-I is emotionally shallower, and has qualitatively different visuals. More of a positive push than the other 2C's. The most forgiving of the four, by far. It also has a greater tendency than most psychedelics to result in lingering visual effects (minor and temporary - but don't be surprised by them).

In terms of nausea, people will argue on these. All of them produce more nausea than 4-AcO-DMT (which produces almost none), with most citing 2C-E and 2C-P as being worse. I experience slight nausea from 2C-I (on comeup), none from 4-AcO-DMT, and some nausea on the comeup of 2C-E. I don't remember whether there was any nausea with 2C-P, but others say there is - I haven't taken it in years (lots of negative stories posted about it, inconveniently long duration, and little to offer beyond 2C-E).

couldn't have said it better myself!

I will say that 2c-i is a tricky one for a select few, most have pleasant experiences on it. I had one amazing experience and one poor experience though not a bad trip. A bipolar friend of mine had a horrible trip on it, though he is fine when taking LSD.

I have yet to try 2c-p myself but as you can read, it will be reserved when I have the time and energy for it.

 

[Incunabula]

"visual effects, and how altered your perceptions and thought processes were?"

There's really not much comparison when it comes to visuals, since 4-aco-dmt is a tryptamine (like mushrooms) while the 2c's are phenethylamine's (like mescaline cactus). You're asking us to compare apples to oranges. Colours and visuals are completely different. I find the 2c's to be more visual in general than tryptamine's. More electric, more "synthetic", and very much neon colours.

2C-E and 2C-P are"mind expanding", like 4-aco-dmt, but stil in a different way. The mind state of 2C-I is more shallow though.

I think you should try them in the order you posted them in the title: 4-aco-dmt, 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-p

 

[ASquishyApple]

thanks for the info

does anyone have anymore info on gastrointestinal discomfort? i found a lot of times when i took 4-aco-dmt I would experience discomfort that would put a damper on the trip and sometimes would make frequent trips to the bathroom with the feeling that I need to make a bowel movement but when i got there would just end up sitting on the toilet for a while with nothing happening. i think this was mostly during the come up but it was definitely the one and only thing i never liked about the experience.