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strongest salvia extract concentration?

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dranseth

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What is the strongest you could technically make salvia?

100x?

If you know how, then please explain.
 
I've changed the title of the thread a bit to differentiate it from the millions of other salvia threads. I'm going to let this one remain separate because I've not seen this exact question before, but in general, people, let's start putting salvia questions into the Big and Dandy Salvia thread, okay? And let's start reading that thread before asking basic questions about salvia (not referring to this thread, but in general).
 
pure salvia would say lab grade pure salvia. Thats the highest extract you can get. Ive seen 98.9% pure Salvia in a head shop, so look for that.

I dont think 100x nessacarily means lab grade pure. I think it means that there is 100g of alkaloid extract per said weight on the label.
 
To be totally correct, pure salvia is just salvia leaf. What you would have with a refined enough extract is pure Salvinorin-A.
 
Beenhead said:
pure salvia would say lab grade pure salvia. Thats the highest extract you can get. Ive seen 98.9% pure Salvia in a head shop, so look for that.

I dont think 100x nessacarily means lab grade pure. I think it means that there is 100g of alkaloid extract per said weight on the label.
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Yeah, I thought it was something similair to that as well. If it was like that, could they not continue to make stronger and stonger versions of salvia? If it was just a ratio of alkaloid extract, would they not be able to make stronger than 100x?
 
Salvinorin A isn't an alkaloid as it doesn't contain a nitrogen atom to act as a base (hence alkaloid from the word alkali, meaning alkali like).

100x means 100x stronger than salvia leaf. If 1x = 2.5mg/g of plant material then 100x = 250mg/g of plant material. As there are 1000mg in a g, then the max concentration = 400x
 
5x has worked more than fine for me. if i want an extra kick in the ass i reach for the 15x. i think anything over 20x would just be way, way, way too intense for me.
 
I actually got my hands on some 6x extract and that was FAR more intense than any higher extract I've had. Simply mindblowing.
 
The pure salvinorin-A I extracted from salvia leaf with acetone was, well, very strong. Too strong.
I reccommend 25x. It seems to be a pretty good "sweetspot" as far as dosing goes. Though, the quality of the extract is important. Get a standardized one if possible.
 
Not sure what X extract I've smoked, because its color-coded, but I can't imagine being sane after smoking something 4-5 times stronger.
 
you can't smoke 100x
you can't even smoke real 80x
at smoking temperatures, even torch smoking temperatures pure salvinorin gets runny and melts and goodbye.

I have some salvinorin on cigarette paper strips which is about 40x
while the paper is combusting the salvinorin melts into liquid droplets and is inhaled in the airstream.

it is very effective, realtively easy to measure, easy to store flat and out of the way. kind of like an insidious ticket to an alternate mind state.

anyway once you hit level 6 having more is just a pure waste. with salvia products the experienced user is aiming for a nice level 4, and accepting occasional level 5 challenge and blips of level 6 amnesia as tolerable accidents - levels 5&6 are unpleasant mind states usually.
 
fastandbulbous said:
Theoretically, if you use 2.5mg salvinorin A/g leaf then the strongest concn you can get is x400, which corresponds to pure salvinorin A
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I would say that is correct. 100x is about the most anyone would really want to mess with that is like 4 to 6 mgs for a full experance any thing smaller then that would be to hard to weigh and you would lose more in the process of weighing it then it was worth. I have heard of people using volumetric measuring with acetone and just putting a drop or however much on tinfoil and letting it evaporate and smoking. I know a few people who smoke 100x on tinfoil or light bulbs and a good scale it works good but you defiantly need a good scale. I was reading somewhere the first time isolated Salvinorin A was smoked Daniel Sierbert smoked 2mgs of pure Savlvinorin A on tinfoil and figured out it was active and very strong.
 
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