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Strongest benzo in your opinion

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BabyGurl3171

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In my mind. The choices are many, the consequences
What is the strongest benzo, in your opinion?
Like I learned quickly alprazolopram (sp) is stronger than diazepam. Is there something stronger than Xanax?
I've been lookin at the conversion chart forever now and I'm not sure if it's possible to figure it out from that.
Thanks!
 
I'm going for Triazolam, but its going to by contested by someone, I guess its what you define as "strong"
 
30mg temazepam on an empty stomach hits me way harder than 2mg xanax even though the conversion says xanax is stronger.
 
Strength and potency should not be confused with each other, in my opinion. For example, equivalent doses of diazepam and temazepam are 10mg and 20mg respectively. On a mg per mg basis, diazepam is more potent. Temazepam, however, is a much stronger benzo in my opinion - at equivalent doses, it exerts more powerful effects. Similarly, flurazepam's equivalent dose is reported to be 15-30mg (pretty wide margin), but that's tons stronger than Valium in my book.

The most potent ones are triazolam and brotizolam. I have experience with neither, so I can't really comment. I'd say the strongest benzos I've tried are nitrazepam and phenazepam.
 
30mg temazepam on an empty stomach hits me way harder than 2mg xanax even though the conversion says xanax is stronger.

I disagree.. I need 60-90mg to equal one bar IMO. I have a script for temazepam and am pretty experienced with it. i am surpsied to see someone say this..but to each their own right?
 
Okay, first off. Alprazolam is way overrated, and in fact does not even have that many Benzodiazepine properties or characteristics. Alprazolam is basically just meant for Panic Attacks, and is too short acting, and is not a good benzo for GAD (Generalized Anxiety Disorder) or constant Anxiety, because tolerance builds quick and before you know it you will be taking 6mg/day of Alprazolam just to make it by the day.

Now as for Strongest Benzo's, I must say Phenazepam is up there as one of them for sure.
I would probably have to say Flurazepam as probably the strongest out there in North America. Bromazepam (Lectopam) here in Canada is quite the potent Benzo.
I have experience with pretty much all Benzodiazepines, except for the rare ones that you don't see much of in North America anyway, like Loprazolam, or Lormetazepam - which sound very strong.

But out of all the Benzo's I have tried the following: Alprazolam, Bromazepam, Brotizolam, Clonazepam, Diazepam, Etizolam, Flurazepam, Flunitrazepam, Lorazepam, Librium, Nitrazepam, Phenazepam, Oxazepam, and Temazepam.

I would have to say IMO the Strongest Benzodiazepine in terms of 'Effects', I would actually probably have to say Diazepam in terms of actually being able to 'feel' something. I would put Flurazepam, and Phenazepam up there as well, and Bromazepam to be my second choice.

I also have plenty of experience with benzodiazepines after being on and off them for over 8 years or so, and sometimes very high dosages where I have had blackouts for like 2 weeks at a time, because I would mix Flurazepam which has a 450 hour half life, so that could be why. I've been on Lyrica for a number of years as well, and that also potentiates benzo's big time. But I would mix Flurazepam + Lyrica + Ativan + Bromazepam, meanwhile I was on 16mg of Suboxone per day. I'm amazed I'm still alive. This was back in 2010. Now I have such a high tolerance to Benzos that I don't feel them at all, unless I take high dosages, or Diazepam in a medium to high dose I can feel. But now I am on Clonazepam 4mg/day and I don't even notice I took it. Before that I was on Diazepam 40mg/day, and I could 'feel' that more than the Clonazepam dose I am on right now, which is supposedly (according to the BZD Equivalency Charts) equal to 80mg/day of Diazepam. Which does not make any sense to me at all. 8)

I'd like to switch back to Diazepam, but if I do now the highest my doc will go is 10mg 3x per day because I am on a Narcotic, HydromorphContin.
Doctors up in Canada seem quite a bit more strict in handing out Benzo's than they do in the US. Thats for sure. I think maybe I should just get some Phenazepam in liquid form for dosing, because its got a nice long half life and would help out a lot getting off the Opiates, and then the Benzo's afterwards.
 
IMO.

Alrazolam is the strongest anxiolytic with a short half life and short halflife.

Triazolam is the strongest on a MG per MG basis and the strongest hypnotic with a short half life.

Flunitrazepam is by far the strongest hypnotic, with a long half life.

CLonazepam is the strongest anxiolytic with a long halflife.

Phenazepam deserves a mention as the strongest anxiolytic with a long halflife but as it is only legally prescribed in Russia and is mainly considered a RC I mentioned clonazepam too.

Flurazepam has the longest half life and deserves a mention.

Nimetazepam deserves a mention for being easily the most recreational benzo.

This is all from personal experience by the way.

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Forgot to mention... Midazolam is by FAR the most amnesic benzo.
 
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Thanks for your experiences!
I hear a lot of people say diazepam is so strong. I have to disagree as it does nothin for me, even at 100+ mgs. I get everyone is different. Obviously I've been immune to diaz lol. No, I have immunity to all benzos! Lol. I guess bein on them for 4 years. Grr.
Anyway... Lol. Thanks again for your inputs.
 
Flunitrazepam or Flurazepam.

I took a 2 month break from Benzos and i had 4 mg Flunitrazepam and could actually feel something.
 
flunitrazepam (Rohypnol ) is the strongest benzo ime overall... i would say alprazolam (xanax) is the strongest anxiolytic, but personnally i prefer diazepam (valium) to xanax as it is longer acting, and has muscle relaxing properties, which feels nice. But my personal favourite is loprazolam (havlane) as it combines a reasonably strong hypnotic, with muscle relaxing features without to much amnesia
 
Strongest benzo? This question is extremely ambiguous. The most potent benzo would be triazolam, but the strongest? Frankly, it is really dose-dependent. I just don't think one benzo can be "stronger" than another. Some can have more anxiolytic properties with less sedation, some can be very sedating, some can hit very quickly, some can last for a very long while. I am not sure I even understand what you mean by "strong" in a benzo.
 
I've only done diazepam, xanax, clonazepam, lorazepam, oxazepam, & 1 or 2 more benzo's out of all the ones I have tried I find xanax the strongest and most enjoyable and then valium
 
I disagree.. I need 60-90mg to equal one bar IMO. I have a script for temazepam and am pretty experienced with it. i am surpsied to see someone say this..but to each their own right?

I have a script for them (and ativan) as well but I only do benzos 1-2 times a week and I have near zero tolerance....I can get a good buzz off of 2mg ativan. IDK maybe I'm just more sensitive to meds than others.
 
Okay, I'm going by opinion here, not the equivalency charts.

Overall strongest without a doubt: IV midazolam, best rush in my life accompanied by IV fentanyl. Geeked hard, felt amazingly light-headed euphoria, and then "Night, night."

I'll catorgorize
Anxiolytic: Alprazolam, Clonazepam, and Diazepam.

Duration: Diazepam then Clonazepam.

Muscle-Relaxant properties: Diazepam, Temazepam, Clonazepam, and Lorazepam

Amnesic: Temazepam, and Lorazepam. High dosages of Alprazolam, Clonazepam, and Diazepam. Z-Drug: Zolpidem
 
Strange, I took the temazepam earlier and the high is nowhere near as strong as the first. The only other bezno I've done since was 2mg xanax this past saturday.
 
I've only tried clonazepam, diazepam (5mg so i wouldnt count that, felt nothing), oxazepam (was taking 60mg/day 30mgNoon/30Night for weed "withdrawals")
I like clonazepam the best.
 
Temazepam hits one very hard once the right dose is achieved, 30mg of it said to equal 1mg+/-.25 alprazolam. I gave a benzo naive 60mg of temaz once at the house and it's hard watching a big guy fall over and blackout, asleep by the 3rd hour and doesn't remember most of the experience. Now I start people off with 30mg just in case. Tolerance buildup (and following dependence) are hallmark traits of this benzo, along with a British study claiming temazepam is the fastest to enter one's bloostream and BBB. On an empty stomach and the contents of 180mg temaz in a shotglass, it was time to dose. Tolerance builds faster than you'd expect, a three day binge turns a 45mg dose into a 120mg dose for the same effects at the end. Warning has been said, now on to the shit down there.

Water is enough for me, just get the majority down first and chug. Repeat until done. Lick the insides. Get a stronger drink to mask it though (such as apple juice, orange juice, herbal teas, etc.) The powder tastes worse than sand and is quick to induce the gag reflex. By the time you're done putting the stuff away that temaz has already taken hold, first alerts are around 5-8 minutes, within 20-30 minutes you're blissed, and the high can bring back some opiate memories and feelings, especially if you take the right amount to nod on and off, without just nodding once and sleeping it out. The peak is around the hour mark, and is wonderfully unique compared to the common (big 4 in USA) benzos. After the peak, your tempo shifts from that state of floatiness of body, mind and gooey limbs into a hard, stumbly, sedation. It's great, but now is when those hypnotic properties shine. The sustain period after the carefree nod is still more pleasing IMO than Xanax or Klonopin at equivalent doses.

Hell, those guys aren't even needed when a gram of phenazepam is in my hands, all I need now are some albino rats and a cage. My lab in the works has a nearly a gram of phenazepam and enough temazepam thanks to an old doc on a seperate note. There is no calling for anyt others, I've tried plenty of benzos in my years, probably around 16 or so. Triazolam is the most sedating for sure, but it lacks in other areas such as anxiolysi and muscle relaxation. Oh, and that duration was the deal breaker for me. Temazepam is very addictive and a snide fellow, I ponder upon the dreaminess and euphoria from temazpem now. That used to be expressed towards my precious opiates. Seeking out stronger things only leads to stronger ties, knots are a challenging thing to break my friends. Be careful with the hypnotics, they aren't hesitant to be your best buddy, and only friend. Then they leave you after a few months, and suddenly panic ensues. Temazepam is a better anticonvulsant than an anxiolytic or muscle relaxer, so don't get me started on the withdrawals. Short and sweet. It ends when your body overstimulates itself into fatal status epileptus. Who wants to go like that? Anyone? Thought so. Tread with caution, and be wary of half lives with benzos so you don't stack a fresh kpin on top of one that's still in your system and black out like somebody did accidentally some time ago.

It's a dangerous game, addiction could mean life or death and only one thing can keep you well, but the bottle is empty. Must have partied too hard last night or something. Is it hot in here? Somebody must have stolen just the temazepam, if not being dosed my precious enters a heavy duty safe that's impenetrable by household means. I threw away my keys during opiate withdrawals once, fucking fuck I talk too much. Sorry.

It takes 5 of them to rid your system entirely. Practice that sort of spacing with them and you'll find those bars doing just fine at the same dose you took four days ago. Xanax clears out in 11*5 hours for acute dosing, plus a rest day. 95 hours of waiting seems like a lot, doesn't it? It's just four days. That's all. Then you can have another dose and be merry. Shit, this rant is a rant now. /End rant
 
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