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STRIKE - Scab bastards

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looks like the goverment is doing the divide n conquer.we have it over here where things are fcuked up but the private sector are fighting with the semi state.
 
TheSpade said:
utter garbage
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parttime crackhead said:
There's a good few call centre jobs I could get round here direct with the companies, I know lots of people that have recently. That's all anycunt does round here is work in a fucking call centre. I know I could pass the interviews no bother & I've worked in call centres for ages (too fucking long!) so I know how to do the job, I wouldn't need call handling training etc. Quite a few are through agencies but you don't work for the agency, you just get the job through them & then you are a proper employee of the company the same as everyone else. I got my old job at HSBC through an agency but once I'd passed the interview I was just a standard HSBC employee, I had nothing more to do with the agency.

Practically all of them would involve some sort of sales though, which I can't fucking stand.
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So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring. There's a few call centes round here and they all use agencies, you work AT the company full time but work FOR the agency. It's the agency that pays your wages and is your employer. You always work at the same place and could potentially do so for the rest of your life.
 
TheSpade said:
So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring. There's a few call centes round here and they all use agencies, you work AT the company full time but work FOR the agency. It's the agency that pays your wages and is your employer. You always work at the same place and could potentially do so for the rest of your life.
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Many companies outsource their recruitment for permanent staff to agencies. It probably makes sense because it means they don't have to worry about placing ads, sifting through thousands of shit CVs etc. Actually the real reason is that managers follow the buzzword of the day, which has been outsourcing. "Oh I read that outsourcing could save us thousands and these other companies are doing it plus I have Reed / Office Angels on the phone with this great deal. Let's do that, I'm a great fucking manager." Things don't have to make sense in the corporate world, they just have to sound like they might make sense and be trendy. Plus they have someone outside the company that they can blame when they end up with Spade manning the phone ;)

But yes, what you're saying is true, companies are also completely avoiding employing people by using agencies.
 
TheSpade said:
So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring. There's a few call centes round here and they all use agencies, you work AT the company full time but work FOR the agency. It's the agency that pays your wages and is your employer. You always work at the same place and could potentially do so for the rest of your life.
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spade. have you never heard of a "recruitment agency"? what you appear to be describing is an "employment agency" (who probably also do their own recruitment, but not necessarily.)

not trying to be funny, just surprised that you don't get that...?
 
my boyfs experience suggests that til you've worked for a specific agency and got decent feedback, they will offer you the shittest jobs. in the year he worked in bristol he was not even offered permanent posts, as they learned he was good he was getting the higher paid ones. when he arrived in leeds, even going to agencies he had good feedback for in bristol, he was told point blank 'we have nothing but call center work.' he took a large risk by refusing call centre work and ended up in a 'halfway house' role, employed directly not via the agency. now off the back of the good feedback from that, he is totally out of call center work and has a far better paying role, again employed directly. having less than a month unemployed in the past 2 years, and all that work being for known UK employers probably helps too.

so if they tell you they only have call center work, what they mean is that as they don't know you and the other roles are so sought after, they will not risk their reputation by putting you forward for them.

so again, its all about sticking with things. the more you do for them, the more they do for you.

also- employing you by an agency can cost more- for every hour you get paid, they get paid. after you've initially been placed by the agency, the employer would save money by employing you directly. i think they do it this way so they can sack you on the spot if they feel like it.
 
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TheSpade said:
So they use agencies to employ people then once you get the job they make you a proper employee? Doesn't make much sense. Why even have an agency in the first place doing the hiring.
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They're called recruitment agencies spade. They specialise in this sort of thing so your company doesn't have to. They are paid a fee for doing all the initial recruitment work. It's not a radical idea. I have a radical idea for you though, how about you shut the fuck up about this shit in my strike thread. HA HA 8(
 
It's probably less stressful to have adopted the hakuna matata philosophy toward pension, don't buy into it - I didn't and expect to cheerfully end my days in the modern version of the workhouse - I pity all the people who paid into pensions who will be there with me so bitter will the gruel they eat there taste, whilst mine will taste like gruel.
Ah yeah the economy & that - we could go to war that would solve the unemployment crisis.
 
The retirement age is going to be 68 before I even get to retire. What a joke. Mind you £140 a week would keep me in mimosa rootbark I suppose.
 
chinup said:
my boyfs experience suggests that til you've worked for a specific agency and got decent feedback, they will offer you the shittest jobs. in the year he worked in bristol he was not even offered permanent posts, as they learned he was good he was getting the higher paid ones. when he arrived in leeds, even going to agencies he had good feedback for in bristol, he was told point blank 'we have nothing but call center work.' he took a large risk by refusing call centre work and ended up in a 'halfway house' role, employed directly not via the agency. now off the back of the good feedback from that, he is totally out of call center work and has a far better paying role, again employed directly. having less than a month unemployed in the past 2 years, and all that work being for known UK employers probably helps too.

so if they tell you they only have call center work, what they mean is that as they don't know you and the other roles are so sought after, they will not risk their reputation by putting you forward for them.

so again, its all about sticking with things. the more you do for them, the more they do for you.

also- employing you by an agency can cost more- for every hour you get paid, they get paid. after you've initially been placed by the agency, the employer would save money by employing you directly. i think they do it this way so they can sack you on the spot if they feel like it.
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None of this applies to me. The job I applied for was with this specific company which I work for just they only hire through this agency. There are no other opportunities, regardless of how long and hard you work, to get a 'better' or different job. Your boyfriends was signed up to some sort of different agency from mines. The agency I work for provides the whole workforce (bar anyone who's been there for a few years) for this nationwide company. The only opportunity that could ever, possible, come up is with a proper contract with the company but I've heard from people who have been working there for 5 years, all as agency staff, that the opportunity ahs never come up so far. So no it's not about sticking things out and me doing things for them and they'll do things for me. You are wrong.

Employing by an agency blatantly doesn't cost more otherwise they wouldn't do it. In my case the company pays the agency the full wage a proper employee would get and the agency then pay us a cut of that and keep the profit. The plus side for the company is that they don't have to pay us for sick days, give us any benefits, a pension etc. It's a cost saving excercise for the company and the agency makes a tidy profit.
 
Sack it then, get another job. Sounds rank. You've now got at least a bit of call centre experience, surely you can get something that isn't through what appears to be a glorified temp agency?

Saying that, I don't know how many call centres are around your area. There's literally fucking dozens (of very large ones) round here. If I could deal with sales I could get another job within a matter of weeks & probably earn more money by the time I hit bonuses & shit but fuck that, just speaking to cunts is enough of a mission without having to try & make them buy things as well.
 
Buy and sell stuff. Ive been my own boss for 15 years and made a good wage. With a bit of outlay you can make a profit. Invest £20 in something
and see if you can see a £20 profit. * look at Alan Sugar *
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Buy and sell stuff. Ive been my own boss for 15 years and made a good wage. With a bit of outlay you can make a profit. Invest £20 in something
and see if you can see a £20 profit. * look at Alan Sugar *
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StoneHappyMonday said:
We're talking drugs right?

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Haha. That's what I was thinking. I used to be my own boss "buying & selling stuff". I wouldn't recommend it.
 
JB said:
I have a radical idea for you though, how about you shut the fuck up about this shit in my strike thread. HA HA 8(
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It might be your strike JB, but spades the one who'se going to end up paying for your pension. On the day of the strike perhaps you could ask UNISON to spare a thought for all those poor fuckers on £6.50 an hour giving money they can't afford to fund your retirement eh? ;)
 
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