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Misc Strictly curious- can you IV Butalbital?

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As title says, is that even possible? Note, I've gotten over my needle fever days, and I'm on 350mg, curiosity struck. (Note, again, I'm not planning on it)
 
Sure. IV barbs are a thing that you can do. but don't IV Fioricets.

IV barbs are used in e.g. lethal injections. I would imagine that it's a lot easier to OD on injected barbiturates.
 
You got all the answers sek, have you messed with fio's before? What's a good dose to really get lit on if you don't mind? I mean I've eaten 350mg and just ate 20mg Hydrocodone, don't feel a whole lot. I know if I toked buds it would definitely help but lone-behold I have none. If CWE'd and filtered 5 times, would it be safe. Keep in mind, I'm not going to try unless it's relatively safe (I IV coke, that's not safe so that's not a huge concern per se). Man.. If I ever get lethally injected I'm going to be excited. (Although I'm an angel ;))
 
Edit, it's been 15min since I've even my Lorcets, I'm already feeling good. I cannot wait to wake up tomorrow and dose Fios, wait an hour, then my Lorcets, insane potientiator. (Note, 20mg isn't shit, at all.. Not even enough to make me un-sick) Ha :)!
Edit: Also, how rare are barbs? I NEVER see them, literally, ever. I'm in TX, is it like this everywhere basically? I'd say price if I could, lets just say I ate a cheeseburger from mcdonalds and we could go toe to toe :).
 
Barbiturates are not in medical usage anymore except for phenobarbital for seizures, Fioricet/butalbital, and a few rapid onset IV barbs (thiopental etc) for intubation/sedation/anethesia/euthanasia. They used to be one of the "go to" drugs for anxiety etc like benzos are used today until people realized the terrible abuse/dependence liability and how they can (fatally) potentiate opioids and alcohol. I think they got phased out before the 70s and now even the governments are having trouble finding barbs for lethal injections.

I thought I said don't IV fioricet. No idea about the solubility of butalbital versus caffeine, plus binders are just icky. Plug them if you absolutely must. Even if you did micron filter, it's like micron filtering Percocets, it's kind of a waste.

I myself have never touched barbiturates, but I would be wary of going too overboard on them, especially in combination with hydrocodone.
 
Is 350 of butalbital a high dose? I don't feel a lot. I know the half-life is long so I'm going to just ride it out and see how it goes. Just a little euphoria and slight buzz, from the combination of 20mg codone with the fio's. Like I said before, I don't PLAN on IV'ing it, I was strictly curious if it WOULD be safe, theoretically. By the way, thanks for the advice. :)
 
US Prisons Manual said:
Unlike benzodiazepines, barbiturates have a narrow therapeutic margin, above which toxicity and respiratory depression quickly develop. Although tolerance develops to the sedative and euphoric effects of barbiturates, little tolerance develops to respiratory depression.

These are all equivalent:

100mg Amobarbital
100mg Butabarbital
100mg Butalbital
100mg Pentobarbital
30mg Phenobarbital
100mg Secobarbital
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Chloral Hydrate 0.25-0.5g
Ethchlorvynol 0.20-0.5g
Glutethimide 0.25g
Meprobamate 400mg
Methaqualone 300mg

source


So yeah, 350mg of fioricet will get you pretty tanked. I'm not you though. Here is another thread you may consider reading.
 
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Christ, Phenobarbital sounds fucking awesome. While Butalbital sounds like plain wings compared to blazing. Thanks a bunch for the advice, you were very helpful. No need to really keep the thread open unless you want more people to respond. Much respect, stay up!
Actually, if you would keep it open for a day or two to get more personal responses, I'd appreciate.
 
Still, feel fine, no lack of coordination, just a little drowsy. Getting in the mood for some IV cocaine (small amounts at a time) will this be safe? I've put myself through a TON of stress on my body, I can handle myself very well. Just never done Barbs+caine.
 
Phenobarbital is not "awesome". I will leave it to you to figure out why. Hint: It's the methadone of barbs.

Do not IV Fiorecet. Barbiturates are very destructive to veins. Barbs and cocaine is fine - treat barbitruates like benzodiazepines or alcohol.


Gonna close this now
 
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