Strategizing Legalization’s Pros and Cons

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/24potside.html?scp=2&sq=&st=nyt

SAN FRANCISCO — As a longtime Democratic consultant, Chris Lehane has worked for presidents and managed scandals. But his current gig — as a strategist for the campaign to legalize, tax and regulate marijuana in California — is the one that has really caught the attention of his colleagues.

“I’ve got a lot of people calling looking for business on this one,” Mr. Lehane said.

Medical marijuana has been legal in California since 1996. But the new ballot measure would allow anyone over 21 to buy, possess, use or cultivate marijuana. It would bar personal possession of more than one ounce as well as smoking the drug in public or around minors.

Supporters have encouraged legalization as a potential boon for sales tax revenue — up to $1.4 billion annually, according to some estimates — in budget-crunched California. But the measure is expected to be strongly opposed by law enforcement, which says it would actually end up costing the state in increased public health and safety expenses.

“It’s fraudulent,” said John Lovell, a Sacramento lobbyist who represents the state groups for police chiefs and narcotics officers.

While the state’s Republican Party has come out against the measure, Mr. Lehane says legalization is a bipartisan issue, attracting liberals and libertarians alike. Several polls have also shown a slim majority of Californians favoring legalization. “They accept the premise that it is de facto legal anyway,” Mr. Lehane said. “And that the current system is not working.”

The X-factor in the campaign may be the current proprietors of medical marijuana facilities, who have built a $1 billion industry — and a kind of quasi-legal monopoly — in the state.

Kevin Reed, the president of the Green Cross, a cannabis delivery service based in San Francisco, admitted last week to be conflicted on the issue, writing that “if the legalization-for-all social experiment fails, it could bring the medical cannabis movement down with it.”

Mr. Lehane said the campaign would not concern medical marijuana — which a majority of Americans approve of, according to a recent Associated Press/CNBC poll — but “whether government’s failed prohibition approach should be replaced with a system that will better control it and collect revenue from it.”

“The issue is not ‘if’ but merely ‘when,’ ” Mr. Lehane said.

Like all California races, the marijuana campaign is expected to be expensive. Proponents want to raise at least $10 million, and had raised about $1.3 million by the end of 2009, much of it donated by Richard Lee, a co-sponsor of the measure who runs a trade school devoted to the drug in Oakland.

Mr. Lovell, meanwhile, does not expect to need as much money. “They’ll outspend us five or six times to one,” he said. “But all we need to do is raise enough money to get our message out. And if we do that, we will win.”
 
"It's fraudulent" Not to mention calling the grammar police, is this all they have? What a bunch of crap. Its called freedom and America is supposed to respect it. When will these fuckhead conservative progress haters die already. They are ruining the world for everyone else.
 
^ The liberals are in power now so why are tokers still being arrested?

On that thought, it is now that their is major progress being made on the legal front. Coupled with the exponential increase of accessible psychic energy in the atmosphere, this should be an interesting year indeed %)
 
A lot of people like to say they are in favor of legalization because they don't want to seem uncool, but when it really comes down to it do you really want to live in a society where everyone is stoned all the time? Your cab driver? The guy who is cooking your food? Laws that regulate dangerous drugs do not stop everyone but it stops enough people so maybe I can get to work in the morning without somebody running me over in their car or accidentally putting detergent in my food.

The FDA has been put in charge of our health and safety. If they believe that a drug is dangerous and harmful then they are probably the ones who have done the research. I would trust the FDA before I trust some back ally drug dealer who thinks marijuana is some cure for cancer.
 
^What you just said applies to ANY mind altering substance INCLUDING alcohol and alcohol is legal, yet most people are sober at work, it's called self control and it applies to both. If pot is legal the chances of detergent in your burger or the cabbie plowing you on the side walk are about the same. All that prohibition has done is put low level offenders in jail for sentences longer than a lot of murders not really stopped anyone. As for your opinion of medical cannabis, I really recommend doing some research because no one said it cures cancer it is used as a treatment for the side effects of chemo and aids meds and hasn't been pushed by a back alley dealer but many doctors and the FDA is a bloody FARCE that is there to make people feel good about the legal drug pushers a.k.a. big pharma. Please do some research and have a nice day.
 
Funny thing is, marijuana actually does have a protective effect against some cancers, according to medical doctors and researchers. The government likes to suppress this knowledge because of socially conditioned bias....its not about the science, its about the stigma.

Often times, drugs that were associated with the underclass or with minorities were targeted more than the drugs used by the local upper class population. That is a bit of a generalization but I think there is at least some evidence to back it up.

Surprisingly the UK has not yet made Khat illegal....the US has targeted Khat which is mainly used in Islamic communities.


I am ok with the legalization of marijuana, but I think I prefer decriminalization....in some ways decriminalization means even less restrictions for personal users than legalization.....With legalization you get something like tobacco....the big companies can market it and advertise it to the mainstream, but if WE grow and sell tobacco we are still in trouble. Red tape, expensive registration and permits....This keeps it out of reach to the general population.....Decriminalization on the other hand keeps it out of the corporations hands and keeps it accessible to students and old hippies who grow it. It supports the better side of the black market, keeps it untaxed and arguably more free.....So you cant buy it at the liquor store, but if you grow it yourself or buy it from a friend who does then its no big deal.....That almost sounds better to me than Marlboro brand cannabis depending on how its done.

In Humboldt California I once got a 5 dollar ticket for smoking marijuana....I was ok with that. If it goes to building schools I will gladly donate my 5 bucks...The worst part however was that they took my stash and my pipe. My friend who was acting like an idiot smoked a bowl right in front of the cop. RIGHT in front of him then handed me the pipe like a dumbass. He was a good guy otherwise, but jeez. Pay attention.
 
A lot of people like to say they are in favor of legalization because they don't want to seem uncool, but when it really comes down to it do you really want to live in a society where everyone is stoned all the time? Your cab driver? The guy who is cooking your food? Laws that regulate dangerous drugs do not stop everyone but it stops enough people so maybe I can get to work in the morning without somebody running me over in their car or accidentally putting detergent in my food.

The FDA has been put in charge of our health and safety. If they believe that a drug is dangerous and harmful then they are probably the ones who have done the research. I would trust the FDA before I trust some back ally drug dealer who thinks marijuana is some cure for cancer.

As others have noted, cannabis DOES help with the treatment of some cancers, based on some solid scientific studies.

And alcohol is far, far more dangerous than cannabis.

In fact, I wonder why you call cannabis a "dangerous drug". Maybe you don't know very much about it? It is one of the safest drugs out there.

And as for having the guy cooking my food being stoned and accidentally putting detergent in my food, you sound extremely paranoid. I have cooked meals for myself and my family while high on cannabis literally hundreds of times, and I have never accidentally put detergent in the food, or anything else unwanted. If anything, I have created more flavorful and healthy food, thanks to the inspiration I derived from the cannabis, which allowed me to immerse myself more deeply in the flavors, smells, and colors of the foods I prepared.

Reaction times and general ability to drive are far more affected by moderate-to-high doses of alcohol than of marijuana.

Someone who is drunk while cooking (or driving) would be a much greater danger than someone who is stoned.

Sounds to me like James Sherman is spending his whole paycheck buying propaganda. There are wiser ways to invest.
 
And as for having the guy cooking my food being stoned and accidentally putting detergent in my food, you sound extremely paranoid. I have cooked meals for myself and my family while high on cannabis literally hundreds of times, and I have never accidentally put detergent in the food, or anything else unwanted.

That you know of or can 'remember', right? lol
Im joking.

That is fucking ridiculous. I think small amounts of marijuana can actually increase your creativity and stimulate your apatite which can possibly make you can even better cook....a good cook is an interested cook. Give a cook the munchies and chances are your food will taste better.


I would love to eat at a restaurant where all the chefs were on acid and all the severs were on E. I would pay extra for that novelty.
 
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