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Burnthefleet

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Ahhhh let's see here. <my> habit consisted of anywhere from 4-7 7.5mg percs a day. It doesn't sound like a lot but it definitely controls <my> life. <I> find myself> calling off of work when <I> run out because manual labor isn't very fun when going through withdrawal.

Anyways, starting about last Saturday <I> started to taper his dose down with kratom. Replacing a Percocet with a gram or two of kratom. <I> did this until Friday, where his last dose was at noon( half a 7.5 perc). <I> obtained some Valium and finished off the kratom he had left the next day. <I wasn't> feeling usual withdrawal symptoms which <I> find strange because he usually feels like death at this point.

Did the kratom prolong the withdrawal? Is the Valium really that effective at staving off withdrawal? <i'm> confused and wants to be prepared for the worst invade the kratom sent him back to day 1 of withdrawal. <Im> so ready to quit, he can't keep hiding this and feeling so controlled and guilty. Thank you in advance.
 
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Hey Burnthefleet.. and welcome to Bluelight. Great handle! I went ahead and edited your post as here at bluelight we dont use other peoples names, swim, or the names of animals. The reason we dont do this as its provides no legal protection and makes things hard to read.

The V and the Kratom are good at helping with the withdraws. Im not sure what the half life of Kratom is but it would appear to me that with the V and the taper and the kratom you have done a pretty good job of detoxing. Hopefully someone will chime in as to when the withdrawals from Kratom start. I think you should do great. Nice work. You may want to pack some loperamide for work tomorrow in case you do get a little sick.

Are you still taking the kratom?

Nice work
 
I no longer have kratom to use just down to the v now. I ordered more kratom just for the days I need an extra kick in the ass. But I'm hoping that my taper off of the percs and the low dose of kratom used will yield a fairly easy withdrawal. PAWS is a different story. I've got tons of lope btw haha. As a precaution I took a personal day off of work tomorrow. I just need motivation now. Feeling like the life has been sucked out of me. Having anyone at all to talk to helps. No one in my real life knows so I've turned to bluelight after lurking around the last year.

Also, thank you for the response. Any communication is helping. I just laid in a tub listening to music trying to clear my mind and figure out how the hell I've got into this mess.
 
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Sounds like your doing pretty good. Have you been taking the lope too?

How long were you on the opiates.. not that it matters at all.. but the length of time often affects the severity of the Paws and how long they last.

One of the biggest things we need to do is limit the emotional response. We need to keep our thoughts in the moment.. If we slip into the past we are often hit by really strong and uncomfortable shame, guilt, anger, remorse, etc.. if we jump into the future we can get hit buy fear, anxiety, self doubt, hopelessness, anger, etc.. so we need to just focus on today.. the moment.. if you think about it its all we ever have.. so many people never learn to live in the moment.. always dwelling over what happened.. that shit is old news.. it gone.. and then living thier lives to find some destination where they will be happy.. some majical place they will arrive where it will all be good.. this never happens.. there is no place in the future where we will automatically be happy..

But we can be happy right now..

The way our life is based on our perceptions.. or perceptions are based on the way we choose to interpret something.. the way we choose to interpret something is based off our thoughts.. we control our thoughts.. so in essence we control how things are. I know this may seem a little nuts.. but its not.. making ourselves miserable is. We dont control so much of what goes down. but we are in full controll of how we look at it.

So since when we dulled our emotianal respose with the opaites it didn't like this and wanted to return to the level it was at with out the drugs.. so it has ramped it power up.. just like tolerance.. so we need to caobat this to feal comfortable untill it returns to normal...

Another good thing to do is to stop judging anything as good or bad.. it isnt easy at first.. but its fully possible.. in realty nothing is bad until we say it is.. once we do then we get all the response assocaited with something being judged by us as negative.

Keep it simple at first.. simple shit is hard enough.. allot of us have a tendency to try and fix everything in on big fast sweep.. and this makes us miserable and causes us to fail.. just keep it simple and dont take anything seriously.. taking anything to serious makes for a seriously unhappy existence at this point.

Your doing amazing.. so just slip back into today.. dont fucking worry about tomorrow and fuck the past.. its the past and you have plenty of time to make things right.. just not now.. have to let it all calm down.. so just simplify life.. wake up, eat well, hang in there at work, stay clean, and get god sleep.. thats it for awhile.. that amazing enough.. and give yourself the credit you deserve!!
 
Let's see. I've been an off and on user since my teens. I'm 24 now. It never really got serious until two years ago when I got my wisdom teeth out and my doctor gave me thre scripts of perc tens. Every since then I've had a connect that gives me them for free. It's definitely side tracked my life man. I have a bachelors degree from a well renown school and I'm doing manual labor for god knows why haha.

I just woke up btw on which would be day 3. I'm actually feeling alright. I haven't had to use the lope yet? I'm not sure why. Maybe the kratom took care of that or the taper prevented the whole bad guys feeling. I guess we'll find out.

Neversickanymore I truly appreciate the time you've spent helping me out. The advice on having the right mind set makes a lot of sense which I will try to use. In the future I hope to become what your handle says neversickanymore. I will keep you updated.
 
If you're already on day 3 of your withdrawals and you're starting to feel alright, it sounds like to me the withdrawals are coming to an end.
I could be wrong, I've had plenty of withdrawals that seem like they are starting to feel better but later in the day/the next day they come back. Then that's usually with drugs that have a longer half life e.g. buprenorphine or methadone etc.

I really think your withdrawals should be almost finished by now though, just try to stay positive like neversick said. A lot of the withdrawal symptoms are affected heavily by your state of mind.
 
I've noticed that. I went into this withdrawal actually wanting to go into it. I know that sounds crazy but I was somewhat excited to get in and get this over with. I'm ready to move on and get the devil off of my shoulder.
 
Doesn't sound crazy at all, I've been like that a time or two.. I really wish I could be in that state of mind more often.

Anyway, glad to hear things are going good for you, keep it up!
 
I'm trying. I'm kind of just wondering what to do for motivation. I don't feel like doing a damn thing. I went out and shoveled the driveway and that was about all I could do as far as motivation went. Are there any supplements or methods to increase motivation? Or is it kind of just a "it will come with time" thing?
 
Well, both actually. As more time passes you will feel better and better, and become your normal self again. Also, there are plenty of supplements you could use to help speed up the process of healing your brain and getting back to normal. Some big ones are just basic vitamins, minerals, etc., and remember to eat right, sleep good, and excersize. Those will be big in your recovery.
 
It's weird. I've had awful withdrawals before and couldn't eat, get out of bed, or even sit still. I've been eating like a cow this whole time. (good nutritional foods too). Have you ever heard of 5htp? Will that help? L tyronisine? or just a multi-vitamin?
 
If anyone is interested day four is meh. Started a multivitamin and 5htp and felt great in the morning but as the day goes on my mood is definitely going down. I'm craving like crazy. I'm trying to stay positive and keep telling myself no no no. Any advice?
 
I resisted temptation. Bigger problems right now. Girlfriend is in the hospital tryin to figure out what is wrong. Doesn't seem severe but ya never know. Hopefully it's not karma coming after me :/
 
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