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Opioids Stopping poppy pods

I had to kick a few poppy tea habits in the 90's. The last one I was using 10 large gigs in the morning and 10 at night. I could not stop on my own. So I used my medical insurance from my job and went into a 5 day detox. I told them it was street heroin as I was not going to explain poppy pods nor did I want anyone knowing what that was. My family owned a very large and busy florist. I got pods mailed to me from all over. A few places needed a florist license (whatever that was haha) and they would mail `10 boxes of 100. In addition to the florist industry anyone remember Izmir Oil and Spice company? I befriended the farm owner and he would send me stuff whenever I wanted. (for dried floral arrangements of course) I remember one time I got 500 very beautiful and hearty Hen and Chicks, with many chicks on each and wow was that a pleasant crop. If there ever was a feeling called bliss it was those pods. I only saw Hen and Chicks a few times. Giganthemums were the standard as well as regular size. Pods can get very strong. One time I had several hundred dime sized pods and 4 of those was almost an overdose. Glad I had a tolerance.

So this last time I was in way deep, went into a detox. Was in with several other heroin addicts ( the year was 2000 I assume the heroin was heroin) By day 5 some of the people kicking heroin were feeling better and on day 5 I felt as bad as i went in. But faked feeling better to get home. Got home, toughed it out with just weed. Like 10 days of acute and 3 weeks of lingering. However I will say by one month I was just about completely back to normal. That astounded me. I never got PAWS (that was not even a thing in the year 2000 thankfully) and felt great at one month. Like the body knows how to heal from this plant 100%. The acute was rough. In the detox my BP went up to 170/100 and I got double the clonidine that night. (I never felt clonidine did much but it was used back in those years too) That was also the only two times I ever took trazadone. Then never again as I hated it.

Poppy tea is a worse withdrawal than heroin. It hurts deep down but goes away cleanly. After my last kick I would use just on saturdays. So I would have some on Sat morning and night. Have it linger into Sunday. Then Monday and Tues I would have this raw feeling. Up and down. Up and down. Then I stopped and eventually found kratom. That is why I say kratom balanced me. Using opiates once a week sucks. Christmas 2011 was my last tea.

As an aside the dried poppy is a hearty addition to dried flower arrangements. I use to smirk at the ones we gave to the fire and police dept. You would walk into the police station and see the arrangements on shelves. :)

With all these synthetic opioids coming out we need people to learn the art of growing poppies and go from there. It is a lot of work. I mean a pound of fentanyl saves a field of poppies and tons of work to convert it to heroin. I am afraid from a business perspective synthetics will take over world wide. So at some point people will have to bring back the lost art and use nature again.
Yes I was using the baseball size ones (giganteums as you call them). And I FUCKING love it more than any pharma stuff except maybe methadone. I really should be on a treatment but I'm a shy person and I don't know how I could get on methadone especially since I have a hard time admitting Im an addict..most people in medical community including my own doctor and some psychiatrist I saw never took me seriously.. these dumb assholes think I'm looking for drugs when Im just looking for a treatment to my illness. Hopefully I have tramadol, codéine, pregabalin and benzos (lorazepam and xanax) and I think those saved my life till now but I'm still dope sick.. 4-5 days without poppy pods now. I think if I ever find myself without comfort meds and I'm in the middle of addiction I would probably die either of heart attack or just suicide because it's BRUTAL even with comfort meds. I disagree with letting other people know about this beautiful opium or poppy pods because govts would just ban it and I will find myself without my favorite drug and cure when that happens...and despite let people do pharma garbage stuff they will never know what a real natural opiate high is, straight from the Gods of Morphine. You seem to have a lot of experience with poppies soo any tips on how I should continue? I don't wanna stop but I know it's a bad habit for me because I'm nodding often and waking up very late because they both keep me up at night but also nodding often. I think once one discovers the beauty of opium it's weird to go back to real life and that's what I'm also seeing.. Thanks a lot for taking your time and maybe we can continue talking about it/your experiences .
 
Thanks a lot for taking your time and maybe we can continue talking about it/your experiences .
No problem. I mean if you are 4-5 days off and really want off keep going. I admit I did it without any comfort meds each time except for clonidine that last time for 5 days. (I swear there was a period in my life where I did not even take as much as 5 mgs of diazepam in 20 years) So I did it with just weed and completely healed. Occasional valerian root for sleep but that would make me depressed. If you have pregabalin what i would do is take it every 3 says for a few weeks. I know it feels bad but it balances out. Don't get stuck on comfort meds. Look for relief every 3 days with pregabalin. Suffer a few days. It goes away. Thank your body for balancing. The good news is in a month you can be free, eating and sleeping normally. Normal energy. At least there is light at the end of the tunnel with opiates. Not as complicated as being addicted to benzos. So do a little suffering and use the benzos maybe only once a week. Use the comfort meds sparingly.

Yeah I did not want to mention poppy pods to at the detox so I said I was using heroin. I too did not want the wrong people to know. I needed to be locked up a few days to do it at that last heavy level. When I say people should learn I am talking us cool people. ;) It has been a while since I grew poppies. But that art I hope people like yourself that value the plant can learn. It is one of the oldest medicines and although banned for use poppies do grow all over the place in the spring. The red poppies on the flower rack are papaver somniferum so they are even sold legally. It is just not thought about.

If you want start a thread in the recovery section of this forum. I'll post too. Stopping poppies is dramatic but has a light at the end if you stick it out. Then just put your pods away for when you or your family need pain relief. One year I actually grew enough for 6-8 pain relief sessions. Not much I know but valuable if a family member needs it. I have not done that in a good while.

Negrogesic has the indoor growing experience. I am always amazed when I read about growing in a tub. Amazing.
 
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No problem. I mean if you are 4-5 days off and really want off keep going. I admit I did it without any comfort meds each time except for clonidine that last time for 5 days. (I swear there was a period in my life where I did not even take as much as 5 mgs of diazepam in 20 years) So I did it with just weed and completely healed. Occasional valerian root for sleep but that would make me depressed. If you have pregabalin what i would do is take it every 3 says for a few weeks. I know it feels bad but it balances out. Don't get stuck on comfort meds. Look for relief every 3 days with pregabalin. Suffer a few days. It goes away. Thank your body for balancing. The good news is in a month you can be free, eating and sleeping normally. Normal energy. At least there is light at the end of the tunnel with opiates. Not as complicated as being addicted to benzos. So do a little suffering and use the benzos maybe only once a week. Use the comfort meds sparingly.

Yeah I did not want to mention poppy pods to at the detox so I said I was using heroin. I too did not want the wrong people to know. I needed to be locked up a few days to do it at that last heavy level. When I say people should learn I am talking us cool people. ;) It has been a while since I grew poppies. But that art I hope people like yourself that value the plant can learn. It is one of the oldest medicines and although banned for use poppies do grow all over the place in the spring. The red poppies on the flower rack are papaver somniferum so they are even sold legally. It is just not thought about.

If you want start a thread in the recovery section of this forum. I'll post too. Stopping poppies is dramatic but has a light at the end if you stick it out. Then just put you pods away for when you or your family need pain relief. One year I actually grew enough for 6-8 pain relief sessions. Not much I know but valuable if a family member needs it. I have not done that in a good while.

Negrogesic has the indoor growing experience. I am always amazed when I read about growing in a tub. Amazing.
Thanks for the advice but I kinda overdid it on the benzos. 3mg lorazepam and 1,75mg xanax. Today a bit more but I'm aware of the benzo danger because I used to abuse alcohol before. I have a lot of seeds and a big garden and I might get into it at some point when time is right, potency in morphine per pod could be increased with dried pig blood as negrogesic mentioned. Maybe indoor would be even better but idk where in that case. I will respect this medecine from now on even when I get it back..but it feels soo good that it often ends in me doing it everyday. It's surprising that the clinic could treat the other heroin addicts symptoms but not yours, it means poppy pods wd's is way over the H one.
 
It's surprising that the clinic could treat the other heroin addicts symptoms but not yours, it means poppy pods wd's is way over the H one.
Totally. I mean the people that were coming in to get off heroin were very sick for the first four days. As was I. By day five they were feeling a little bit better and even participating in arts and craps ha ha. And I was still as sick as when I came in. But I went home didn’t have to work for the next week and just did what I had to do. I am not sure I have another poppy kick in me.

The once a week thing is really silly. All I would be doing is waiting for Saturday. That’s no way to live. So from there is where I started Kratom. Now I have to get off this, but it’s not too bad. Certainly nothing like Poppy withdrawal.

I know someone that said they were in Poppy withdrawal that a quality bag of heroin did not completely fix them. There are over 40 alkaloids in Poppy. But unlike some of the other drugs like benzo’s, the poppy will let go if you let go of it. Seems the body knows how to clean it out. But the withdrawal is very dramatic so as you are going through it, it is pretty crazy. And the way my blood pressure shot up it is a withdrawal to take seriously.

There’s really no point in taking benzos until later on. It seems like that would complicate things. The whole poly drug thing can cause issues that we don’t even know about. I am kind of glad I did it clean. It was rough. But I was able to see how well the body can balance. So careful with the comfort meds. :)
 
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Totally. I mean the people that were coming in to get off heroin were very sick for the first four days. As was I. By day five they were feeling a little bit better and even participating in arts and craps ha ha. And I was still as sick as when I came in. But I went home didn’t have to work for the next week and just did what I had to do. I am not sure I have another poppy kick in me. The once a week thing is really silly. All I would be doing is waiting for Saturday. That’s no way to live. So from there is where I started Kratom. Now I have to get off this, but it’s not too bad. Certainly nothing like Poppy withdrawal.

I know someone that said they were in Poppy withdrawal that a quality bag of heroin did not completely fix them. There are over 40 alkaloids in Poppy. But unlike some of the other drugs like benzo’s, the poppy will let go if you let go of it. Seems the body knows how to clean it out. But the withdrawal is very dramatic so as you are going through it, it is pretty crazy. And the way my blood pressure shot up it is a withdrawal to take seriously.

There’s really no point in taking benzos until later on. It seems like that would complicate things. The whole poly drug thing can cause issues that we don’t even know about. I am kind of glad I did it clean. It was rough. But I was able to see how well the body can balance. So careful with the comfort meds. :)
Yeah keep going like that it's better, I plan on using only on weekends once I start to seriously stock them up again. But that's something Ive tried before and failed. Soo maybe once a week kinda thing then.
The benzos I'm using only at night to keep anxiety and extra energy away and sleep later.
 
Actually, the once a week thing was my start of really stepping away from this. But what happens is get plastered on Saturday, sleepy, and warm on Sunday. Then Monday and Tuesday comes a raw feeling. By Wednesday feeling normal. And that starts the whole thing over again. I did that for a couple years. That was after years of being hooked on them too. So anything can be done, but I cringe when I think about that time. It was when I got married too. My wife would have scotch, and I would have poppy tea on a Saturday. We would call it a play day. We’ve both since cleaned up.

I get it though. When I had those hen and chicks, they were beautiful green pods. They made a brew that was like a milkshake. By the eighth or ninth sip, you would start feeling this warmth spreading out all through your body. So even after all these years, I remember. I used pods from 1992 to 2005. My last street heroin was 1991. In 2005 I started using Kratom. Now I’m just realizing how many years I’ve spent on some type of.opioid. Ah well, plenty of people people on plenty of meds so who cares.
 
Actually, the once a week thing was my start of really stepping away from this. But what happens is get plastered on Saturday, sleepy, and warm on Sunday. Then Monday and Tuesday comes a raw feeling. By Wednesday feeling normal. And that starts the whole thing over again. I did that for a couple years. That was after years of being hooked on them too. So anything can be done, but I cringe when I think about that time. It was when I got married too. My wife would have scotch, and I would have poppy tea on a Saturday. We would call it a play day. We’ve both since cleaned up.

I get it though. When I had those hen and chicks, they were beautiful green pods. They made a brew that was like a milkshake. By the eighth or ninth sip, you would start feeling this warmth spreading out all through your body. So even after all these years, I remember. I used pods from 1992 to 2005. My last street heroin was 1991. In 2005 I started using Kratom. Now I’m just realizing how many years I’ve spent on some type of.opioid. Ah well, plenty of people people on plenty of meds so who cares.
Funnily enough I have a similar story at my ex place. She would drink wine and wanted me to have one with her but I was drinking my poppy tea mixed with syrup in a bottle. And I would take that shit everywhere even at parties. I really want to grow poppies.. 2025 shall be it. What are you using today if u don't mind sharing?
 
I’m just using kratom these days. I’ve not had any poppy tea since 2011. I still take occasional trips on psychedelics. And I smoke weed I mean besides opioids and psychedelics I don’t have much experience with the range of other drugs there are. Never got into stimulants or benzos or dissociatives.

Recently, my wife broke her shoulder. Split the part right where her shoulder moves. The doctor just gave her a couple of tramadol. She was still in pain. I pulled out some 15-year-old pods and made her a tea. She looked like she was in a hospital and just gotten morphine. Her eyes were pinned and she got pain relief for hours. Pods are pretty stable. Put them away for when you need them.

I will say with the state of street drugs these days, learning how to garden would be a really good thing.
 
I just got a new package and I'm very tempted... As soon as I saw the delivery truck it felt like christmas. I haven't used it but I want SOO BAD . What should I do?
 
oh boy...these pods...10 years been on this...2 jars of day each 500g..pharma grade....idk the weight,but remember that 12jars was a kilo(got a cauldrone to boil ma daily dose)....daily habbit-5 euro for such quantity...even from a quarter jar withdrawl after such prolonged period is hell....tapper man...idk what to say...or better transfer to something that is with constantly labeled quantity-pills,methadone or subs and start weaning.....quit all cold turkey in 2002.....community-no drugs(even aspirin).no cigarettes.no docs.....these memories from that withdrawl would be with me from the rest of my life for sure man....for sure
PS......if u strong enough physically and with healthy heart after full health monitoring can think about iboga treatment also......it's dangerous ofcourse,but make miracles for some people
 
oh boy...these pods...10 years been on this...2 jars of day each 500g..pharma grade....idk the weight,but remember that 12jars was a kilo(got a cauldrone to boil ma daily dose)....daily habbit-5 euro for such quantity...even from a quarter jar withdrawl after such prolonged period is hell....tapper man...idk what to say...or better transfer to something that is with constantly labeled quantity-pills,methadone or subs and start weaning.....quit all cold turkey in 2002.....community-no drugs(even aspirin).no cigarettes.no docs.....these memories from that withdrawl would be with me from the rest of my life for sure man....for sure
PS......if u strong enough physically and with healthy heart after full health monitoring can think about iboga treatment also......it's dangerous ofcourse,but make miracles for some people
I'm high asf and I feel like a million bucks right now but I'm scared for when I'll have to WD again... Like you said it's very brutal and I think it's traumatising me. This kind of WD can make even the hardest person crack. I'm happy you got through it and it gives me hope there's light at the end of tunnel. Ive been using drugs since 15yo and opioids for 2-3 years or more. Poppy pods Id say a couple months but enough use to give me horrible WD. Yeah man I wish I was on methadone but I really need someone to assist me with that process, I'm not the kinda guy who tries to get drugs from docs, hospitals etc but since I have family working in hospital I sometimes get a treat but it's limited, light stuff like xanax but more rarely oxy. Soo idk how I could get to a clinic.. where do I check the closest methadone clinic to me and wtf could I even tell them not to mention I don't want family/relatives knowing about this. Any tips on a way out of this hell which is now heaven but later on will suffer. Thank you.
 
I'm already dissapointed in myself but I feel like I have no choice. Would probably delete this whole post at some point (idk if that's even possible I'm a noob lol)
Smoking on some haze rn and going for a drive in a bit. Now that I'm out of WD I feel like a human and can function again
 
i think that u must be polite....ur loved ones must know ur problem...this will hurts them,but that's the way it is.....u must talk with them about ur problems...and find a solution....u probably got smuggled some pods from Tasmania fields i guess...in ma place till early 2000-there were huge poppy pharma fields in the south....and it cost nothing....i mean-u can clean someone cowshed down there south and get free as much as u want....my point of view is that u obvious still have access to pods because Tasmania(here is long time forbiden to grow pharma pods)....and this puts u in danger......act quickly man...please......on this times fly like a blink of an eye...wish ya sucess and may God helps u
 
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